Why and how is Freejay wrong, lili? Because you say so? What proof exactly do you have that Palestinians are NOT occupiers? Heck, what proof do you have that Palestinians were an Arab people diverse from Egyptians and Syrians before 1948? What proof do you have that a country named Palestine ever existed? Isn't it more likely that the only reason you live in Gaza is because your racist Arab brothers in Syria, Egypt and Jordan refuse to treat you like human beings and prefer to put you in concentration camps? Have you ever asked yourself what Syria, Egypt and Jordan could do to help end the refugee situation? I challenge you to answer me, lili. Your inability to respond will speak for itself...

TOTALLY agree. when the jews stop with the oppression/occupation and apartheid state--peace will be possible. most Americans feel sorry for the Palestinians. as does the world. . hopefully with Obama as president he will be more even handed-finally.

anyone with some brains would know that arab -terrorism ,directed at israeli civilians ,has been around way before the ""occupation""... the only reason for the road block/checkpoints is to hinder the flow of subhuman bombs traveliing into our cities.... the arabs never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity to have """peace"", but they really want to see all the jews dead instead., dugard is a hamefull disgrace, who makes carter looks semi normal!

TERRITORIIES" THE "AREAS UNDER PALESTINIAN CONTROL" IMPLIES THAT THE "TERRITORY" LEGALLY BELONGS TO THE PAL-ARABS, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF INTERNATIONAL LAW IT IS "DISPUTED TERRITORY." ARTICLE 5 OF THE "DECLARATION OF PRINCIPLES:" ALLOWS THE "DISPUTED TERRITORY" TO FALL UNDER ISRAELI JURISDICTION. PARAGRAPH 4 OF ARTICLE OF THE 1993 "ISRAEL-PLO DECLARATION OF PRINCIPLES:" - ALLOWS ISRAEL TO REVERSE THE SITUATION IF NEEDED. "THE TWO PARTIES AGREE THAT THE OUTCOME OF THE PERMANENT STATUS NEGOTIATIONS SHOULD NOT BE PREJUDICED OR PREEMPTED BY AGREEMENTS REACHED FOR THE INTERIM PERIOD." MEANING THAT ISRAEL HAS ALL LEGAL RIGHTS TO RETURN ANY PLACE THAT WAS UNDER ISRAELI CONTROL BEFORE IT WAS TRANSFERRED UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY. "PALESTINIANS" ARE ARABS WITH ABSOLUTELY NO HISTORICAL, CULTURAL OR NATIONAL RIGHTS TO THE LAND OF ISRAEL, - WHATSOEVER! THE LAND OF THE ISRAELI PEOPLE, THE JEWS, EXISTED 2000 YEARS BEFORE THE PROPHET OF ISLAM EVEN DREAMT THAT HE WENT ON A "MAGICAL HORSE" FROM MECCA TO JERUSALEM! "UNDER FOREIGN CONQUEST, JEWISH PRESESENCE IN THE PROVINCE DWINDLED DUE TO FORCED MASS EXPULSION AND PERCECUTION BY ROMANS, LATER, CHRISTIAN CRUSADERS. IN PARTICULAR, THE FAILURE OF THE BAR KOKHBA REVOLT AGAINST THE ROMAN EMPIRE RESULTED IN WIDESCALE EXPULSION OF JEWS. IT WAS AT THIS TIME THAT THE ROMANS CHANGED THE NAME SYRIA PALAESTINA TO THE GEOGRAPHIC AREA, IN AN ATTEMPT TO ERASE JEWISH TIES TO THE LAND, EVEN CHANGING JERUSALEM TO AELIA CAPITOLINA, BUT WITH LITTLE SUCCESS, AS IT HAD WITH CHANGING JUDEA TO PALESTINE." (Wikipedia). ZUHAIR MOHSEN (1936-1979) WAS A PALESTINIAN LEADER OF THE SYRIA-SPONSORED AS-SA'IGA FACTION OF THE PLO BETWEEN 1971-1979. HE IS WIDELY KNOWN FOR HAVING MADE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT: (March 1977, Dutch newspaper Trouw). "THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE DOES NOT EXIST. THE CREATION OF A PALESTINIAN STATE IS ONLY MEANS FOR CONTINUING OUR STRUGGLE AGAINST ISRAEL FOR OUR ARAB UNITY. IN REALITY TODAY THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JORDANIANS, PALESTINIANS, SYRIANS AND LEBANESE. ONLY FOR POLITICAL AND TACTICAL REASONS DO WE SPEAK TODAY ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OF A PALESTINIAN PEOPLE, SINCE ARAB NATIONAL INTERESTS DEMAND THAT WE POSIT THE EXISTENCE OF A DISTINCT "PALESTINIAN PEOPLE" TO OPPOSE ZIONISM. FOR TACTICAL REASONS, JORDAN, WHICH IS A SOVEREIGN STATE WITH DEFINEDBORDERS, CANNOT RAISE CLAIMS TO HAIFA AND JAFFA, WHILE AS A PALESTINIAN, I CAN UNDOUBTEDLY DEMAND JAFFA, BEER-SHEVA AND JERUSALEM. HOWEVER, THE MOMENT WE RECLAIM OUR RIGHT TO ALL OF PALESTINE, WE WILL NOT WAIT EVEN A MINUTE TO UNITE PALESTINE AND JORDAN." FROM THE 1960's ONWARD, THE TERM "PALESTINE" WAS REGULARLY USED IN POLITICAL CONTEXTS. VARIOUS DECLARATIONS, SUCH AS THE 15 NOVEMBER 1988 PROCLAMATION OF A STATE OF PALESTINE BY THE PLO - - REFERRED TO A COUNTRY CALLED PALESTINE, DEFINING ITS BORDERS BASED ON THE U.N. RESOLUTION 242 AND 383 AND THE PRINCIPLE - - OF LAND FOR PEACE.." (Wikipedia).

BY THE GOVERNMENT OF THE JEWISH STATE. AGGRESSION BY THE ARABS ARE TOLERATED AND EXPLAINED AWAY - - AS RESPONSE TO THE "OCCUPATION," TO ISRAELI / JEWISH "OPPRESSION," - OPPRESSION BY THOSE WHO NOW BECOME DESIGNATED AS THE "ENEMY" AND AGAINST WHOM THEIR AGGRESSION IS ULTIMATELY LEVELED, I.E., THE STILL-ZIONIST SETTLER. * HATED AND VILIFIED BECAUSE HE DARES BE HIMSELF, * BECAUSE HE DARES TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN HIS OWN RIGHTS, * BECAUSE HE DARES TO FIGHT FOR HIS OWN COUNTRY, * BECAUSE HE DARES TO FIGHT FOR HIS OWN EXISTENCE. THE "SETTLER" BECOMES TARGETED AS THE ULTIMATE "ENEMY." MOREOVER, JEWS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BUILD HOUSES WITHOUT PERMISSION, WHILE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF ARAB HOUSES ARE BEING BUILT EVERYWHERE WITHOUT PERMISSION, AND ARE THEREFORE BUILT ILLEGAL. RACIST DISENGAGEMENT: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/4732 IT IS ALLOWED TO DEPORT BY FORCE IN ISRAEL - - BUT ONLY JEWS, JEWISH FAMILIES ARE EXPELLED, AND THEIR HOMES DESTROYED BY VIOLENT POLICE FORCES, - BUT NOT ARABS. AMONA, BRUTAL ISRAELI POLICE VIOLENCE: http://msmedia.a7.org/arutz7/eng-video/06/mar/perm/amona-arutz7.wmv AMONA: SECULAR RADICAL LEFT, FIGHTING AGAINST BELIEVING ZIONISTS IN ISRAEL, THIS THEY NEVER DO AGAINST ARABS, BUT ONLY AGAINST BELIEVING, ZIONIST JEWS, http://www.antisemittisme.no/nor/israel/2006-amona.php VIDEO FEATURE: REMEMBERING GUSH KATIF RESIDENTS RETURN: "THE TEARS ARE ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT WAS OUR BROTHERS WHO - - CARRIED OUT THE POGROM. EXCEPT FOR KILLING US, THEY DID EVERYTHING - EXPELLED US, DEMOLISHED JEWISH HOMES, DESTROYED JEWISH COMMUNITIES..." http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/123217 MUSLIMS AND JEWHATERS, WHO CALL FOR ISRAELS' DESTRUCTION, - ARE NOT DEPORTED. JEWSISH VICTIMS OF ARAB AGGRESSION ARE PUT INTO PRISON, CLASH OUTSIDE BEIT EL: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/125279 ARAB TERRORISTS ARE SET FREE - FROM PRISON. JEWS ARE GOING INTO MILITARY SERVICE, WHILE ARABS CAN MAKE MONEY. JEWS ARE MURDERED BECAUSE THEY ARE JEWS THROUGHOUT ISRAEL, - BUT NOT ARABS. ARABS CAN GO BY CAR THROUGHOUT ISRAEL, BUT NOT JEWS, THEY WILL BE STONED, OR SHOT AT AND KILLED IF THEY ONLY TRY TO GO BY CAR ON CERTAIN ROADS: Motorist Shot by PA Arabs on the Cross-Israel Highway: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/123309 THIS IS THE ENEMY: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/3732 P.A. RADIO PRAISES "HEROIC ATTACK" ON SETTLER TERRORISTS" http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/61855 JEWISH, ISRAELI NATIONALISM AND PATRIOTISM ARE PERCEIVED AS BAD, AS RACIST, AND ARE THEREFORE REJECTED, AND PROJECTED. ARAB NATIONALISM AND CHAUVINISM ARE ACCEPTABLE AND ACCEPTED - AND THEN ENJOYED VICARIOUSLY. ARAB "RIGHTS" ARE CONCIDERED "JUST," AND THE DEMAND FOR THEM, - ENJOYED VICARIOUSLY. WHILE ONE'S STILL ZIONIST AND PATRIOTIC BRETHREN ARE DEEMED -"EXTREMIST" AND VILIFIED. The Ultimate Enemy - Jews Against Jews: Netta Kohn Dor-Shav. http://www.antisemittisme.no/engl/antis-jew/1998-ultimate-enemy-shav.php ACCORDING TO THE ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANICCA, - STATE TERRORISM, ALSO KNOWN AS ESTABLISHMENT TERRORISM, IS "EMPLOYED BY GOVERNMENTS OR MORE OFTEN BY FACTIONS WITHIN GOVERNMENTS - AGAINST THAT GOVERNMENT'S CITIZENS, OR AGAINST FACTIONS WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT..."

you can use it as alternative, but on the ground yo cant apply.

What will they say next about Israel?

The professor should take a lesson from his own words, he equates Israel to South Africa and to Apartheid, to start off before the whites came to Africa the Zulus and the Xosas were at war with one another over land claims the white came and did the same, only the blacke wanted to rule themselves, THUS apartheid (seperate development) it is not the same with Israel the land was given to the Israelites by G-D and it shall remain so untill the same removes them from it , the people who take it apon themselves to try and alter the afore said must get the history first and then make a claim, or look to their own country and see whome they took their country from and repair the wrong done by themselves.

No point Israel clamouring to join the UN and then ignoring its numerous rulings. The attempt to turn the larceny of PA land into a fight against Arabs Muslims meant you were fighting a larger enemy than the SA. The collective funds pouring into the coffers of the resistance would be monumental. It was daft exercise to begin with knowing the Arabs Muslims had the oil revenue to mount a long sustained drawn out resistance against jewish occupation of their land. The large scale stomach churning murder of innocent Palestinian men, women and children didn't help, No point Israel clamouring to join the UN and then ignoring its numerous rulings.

I was a member of the anti-apartheid movement in the 1980s and there is no comparison between South Africa back then and Israel today. The simple fact is that Israel needs to be secure. I was also disturbed to read Dugard's comment regarding Jerusalem i.e Judaization. I feel that this comment was anti-semitic.

regardless, i think that the last paragraph of the article says it all.

How can Dugard claim to be an expert when he ignores the history. You cannot read the history and deny the Jewish right.

At best, the world community is polarized over anything to do with Israel or the Pals. Despite best attempts by arabs ,muslim fanatics and do-gooder westerners - they have been largely unsuccessful in getting the majority support of Westerners. In fact ,I think its actually going the other way. Lame attempts to revise history, making silly comparisons with the former SA apartheid and ignoring acts against Jews and Israelis in proper context, have fallen flat and will continue to fall flat as they have for the best part of recent years. Dugard's comments are just oil on the fire. They add nothing positive whatsoever and provide no sensible or reasonable steps to a solution.

It is an illegal illegitimate occupation of the sovereign Serbian territory. The UN has no right or authority to occupy Serbian land or divide Serbian territory. It has no authority to declare Israel an occupier of territory which never came under the control of a recogized sovereign. All Jewish national rights to the land of the former Palestine Mandate have been recognized by the League of Nations in 1920, and the UN charter acknowledges the validity of previous entitlements when that organization came into being. The UN General Assembly recommendations on partition in 1947 were never carried to the Security Council for implementation, because they were roundly rejected by the Arabs and declared unworkable by the British. No international system has ever superceded the entitlements granted in 1920. The UN "resolutions", if they are to be considered binding, are in breach of international law. (But ample evidence exists to illustrate that all but a few resolutions are not in fact binding).

it, and see for themselves. The call of the Muazin at Al Aksa Mosque is so loud, you can hardly hear yourself think. And to top that up, it is even against ISRAELI law for a Jew to go up to Temple Mount and pray aloud or in an overt manner.

Of course the Jews have Judaicized Jerusalem. Before 1967 no Jew was allowed to pray at any holy site. Jordan was responsible for the destruction of Jewish holy places. The Palestinians had no problem with this. The United Nations did not care. Clearly it is the Jews fault. Had they only accepted the destruction of the State in 1967 the Arabs would not have had to resort to terrorism.

Hey Leonnie - The Holy Land is only the "Holy Land" because of the Jewish foundation of Jewish civilization there a few millennia back. Unlike Brisbane, Australia, which was taken brutally from native Aborigines and is occupied by your kind, Israel was never bereft of Jews, but Jews have been subject to the tortures and oppressions of numerous occupiers, including the Assyrians, the Babylonians, the Greeks, the Romans (who murdered millions and destroyed Jewish Jerusalem), the Christian Crusaders and the Arabs. The Jews are the native South Africans in any correct example; the Arabs are the colonizers and occupiers who have exploited Jews for centuries. Jews reclaimed their birthright by purchase and by defensive wars; they have infinitely more right to live in their ancestral homeland than you do in your stolen country of Australia. SO STOP THE FREAKING HYPOCRISY AND GO BACK TO ENGLAND (WHICH YOUR BARBARIAN KIND ALSO STOLE FROM THE NATIVE INHABITANTS LONG AFTER JEWS ESTABLISHED THEIR CIVILIZATION).

Can be found at http://www.eyeontheun.org/editor.asp?p=188&b=1 According to Anne Bayefsky's pinpoint definition : "UN 'expert' John Dugard : Terrorist spokeperson with a UN license". No need to say more : Yet another antisemitic garbage maker, at public expense...

Herr Dugard will have another scintillating and amusing edition of his report tomorrow, when he asks the question: "Do Jews really control the entire earth through their wiley schemes, or are they merely following the well directed guidelines of the Elders?" Comming Next week: Der Strumer goes on-line. Live from the UN in NYC

This guy writes the same crap every time... Someone should explain to him that the "Palestinians" are NOT Israeli citizens, nor do they want to be. It's like saying France has to provide the rights of its citizens to Peruvians... What's next? Palestinians should get to vote in Israeli elections? It's a joke already. He also conveniently leaves out how Hamas does not recognize Israel's right to exist... This guy is just a joke already...

you screaming banshee !!!!!!!!!! p.s.- you are WRONG, isarel IS an apartheid state and it privielges jews'---- one RACE/ETHNIC RELGIOUS group. and IT SUCKS!!!!

Larceny of PA land? What land belongs to the Palestinian authority? Turning larceny into a fight against Arabs? You forget that Arab armies, from as far away as Iraq, invaded the State of Israel as soon as independence was declared. It hasn't been the Jews who've been picking a fight. "Large scale stomach churning murder of innocent Palestinian..." Now there I was thinking Assud bunny and Farfur mouse were looking for kiddies to brainwash, when all along it was you!

there was no "occupation". The answer is that the arabs consider Israel proper as occupied territory. The only solution is for the Palestinians to intellectually and viscerally accept that Israel is here to stay.

John Dugard..independant?...what a joke..this old proffessor lectured in the department of international law at witwatersrand university. His leanings in favour of the palestinians was no secret. Dugard is as biased as they come. He regularly attacks Israel , both in lectures and in his articles. He is a regular feature in the media review network an anti Israel pro Palestinian website. The UN should be embarressed to call him independant,,,,independant my foot...why not get David Irvine to prepare the next report it will be just as "independant"

antisemetic ignorant idiot

Israelis revile him for it. Perhaps the most ridiculous part is the claim that this could damage the "serious peace process" going on between Israelis and Palestinians. Third party comments can only damage that process if the negotiatiors want them to, and anyone can see that the "peace process" is far from being serious at the moment. Pathetic.

It's okay to comment on this moronm, but hows about summing him up as that UN idiot, imbacile, bozo. We should be telling him where to go..like take a long walk off a short pier. Israel was attacked in 48 despite the UN partition plan, in 56 (Fatah), 67, 73, by Egypt in the war of attrition..after it disengaged from the Strip. Israel offered the Palis a state, autonomy, their own rule..more times than I can think of, to the 3 nos. He seems to have forgotten why Israel is in the disputed areas..had Israel lost one war, we would not now be viewing the UN dopes report.

I agree the caps are bothersome. Your lack of name and home is more than understandable since your spelling shows your genius. The majority of Israelis are Jews, but others are in the Knesset. Actually, enemies of the State are members of knesset. Unlike the "Islamic republic of ....." or the "Islamic kingdom of .... " Israel actually has representation for its minorities. Jews need not apply to live in Jordan. Non-Muslims need not go to Saudi Arabia. Come to think of it if you don't allow others in it can't be apartheid. Is Banshee a racist comment, or just ignorance?

Israel's UN Ambassador says that Plas terrorism targets Israeli civilians !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Then what do you call and how do you describe more than 500 roadblocks that are truning life into hell to the Pals civilians everyday !?!? What do you call daily settlements in the west bank? What is strange is: THAT 99.999% of the people of the world agree on one fact that Israel is an occupying state, and therefore, Israel CAN NOT claim any palestinian terror as long as Israel is occuoying the land it has confiscated in 1967 !! I personally pass 5 roadblocks evru day when going to my work !! it takes me 5 hours to reach home from the place of my work when it shouldnt taje more than 20 min without the IDF roadblocks. The funny thing is that Israel is maintaining such roadbloacks ot protect settlers in the west bank becasue if there were no settlements in the west bank there would be no need for such raodbloacks becasue Israel has already built this bluddy fence (which by the way I fully support this fence if it was built on the green line which is not the case becasue Isarel has stolen more than 30% of the land of the west bank being located on the west side of the fence. I'm trying to look at one single positive action that the so called democratic state of Israel has ever done to the Palestinians !! it;s nothing except the ugly occupation !! So Israel steals my land, my home and I have to set doing nothing, and if I through one stone at an Isareli jeep passing through my two, I'm considered as a terrorist !! Well,I'm not going to say that I'm getting mad or crazy about this but I will tell you something straight forward ; YESH TSAHAL, YESH KHABLANEEM; Youm Tov habibi