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Messianic Jews: We're subjected to harassment
Roni Gal
Published: 21.03.08, 09:12
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91. #58: Because Christianity did not come from Jesus
5th generation ,   Israel   (03.21.08)
It is the same as Jordanian, Syrian, what-have-yous squatting in Israel and calling themselves "Palestinians" because the "Palestine" name seems older and more historical to the ignorant. Or worshiping a lettuce leaf because with just the right amount of Jack Daniels, you can make out Elvis' likeness. Jesus was a Jew, and Jew only. Just because his psychophants documented contradictory reports of some things he said, which were stolen and twisted by a Roman sociopath hundreds of years later, does not put their followers in touch with Judaism.
92. STATEMENT FROM JEWISH PATRIOTS
Isroel Danzig ,   Hevron, Judea   (03.21.08)
We are shocked by this brutal attack on fellow Jew. We wish Ami full & speedy recovery. We are disgusted by cops, Shabak & leftist smear campaign. Stop guessing, pointing fingers & blaming "Jewish extremists". We have nothing to do with this bomb. If we were capable & interested in making bombs, we've got much better tagets than messianic Jews in City of Ariel. Short of misguided political investigation, tortures & forced false confession that will not stand in court that Israeli police is famous for dealing with us. Let cops look at the real criminals - arabs & how they smuggled bomb into Ariel. In the meanwhile, pray for Ami's health, recovery & catching arab islamofascist criminals!
93. 'Dehumanization in newspapers'
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (03.21.08)
Like the haredim are portrayed in YNet?
94. *ONE KIND,A TORAH JEW,ACCORDING TO MOSES,,,SECTS NOT JEWISH
NO REFORM NO MESSIES ,   .............DACON9   (03.21.08)
95. 74 David: Joshua is the name of the Messiah in English
Rivkah   (03.21.08)
not Jesus. Joshua is the English translation of the Hebrew Yeshua according to The Dictionary of Surnames by Oxford Press under the name Jesus which is a Portugese man's name. The followers of Jesus are apostate not only in his name, but in the Sunday sabbath most of them honor instead of honoring the Sabbath of God that the Second Commandments requires of them. the Jews and a few others kept the Friday sundown to Saturday sundown Sabbath alive inspite of horrific persecutions. Jews are blinded by God to the name of the Messiah so they are not held accountable as are Israelites (most white people) and Gentiles who must know the name of their Messiah and that he shed his blood for them. Jews who are still looking for the Messiah are under judgment of persecutions and diaspora for not knowing him when he came, BUT they are saved under a previous covenant with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob IF they look for their Messiah to come which they do under the titles of Hashem and Adonai. The Sunday Christians worship another Yeshua called Jesus and have another sabbath on Sunday, saying the messiah rose on Sunday when he rose on Monday because they cannot count one -two -three days. Yeshua came unto his own and his own received him not. Who are "his own"? He made the world and the world received him not. The Romans were Gentiles and they did not receive their creator anymore than the Jews. It was the sins of the entire world that slayed Yeshua, which includes, Gentiles, Israelites, and Jews. He will come again when the Jews call on him by name, not when the Israelites or Gentiles call on him by name unless they are Jews in their hearts which few are. Who are those who will be utterly surprised at their exclusion from heaven? Religious unbelievers...apostate Sunday sabbath keepers who worship another Yeshua...Moslems...Hindus...Buddhists...etc. You?
96. For TRUE Jews ,
charles ,   petach tikva   (03.21.08)
the Meshiach has still to come . How can some people call themselve Jews , if for them jesus [ or any other name they give him ] is the messias ? Those messianic [ non ] jews are here on a "missionary" job , we don't need them .
97. You know, it really is amazing!
Messianic Jew ,   Israel   (03.21.08)
We are called a cult? You can be a Budhist, chant , meditate like a Hindu, be totally steeped in the New Age, go to festivals like Boombamella and still be a Jew. But God forbid you should believe that Yeshua is the Meshiach of Israel. Suddenly you are a threat and your own kind will send you bombs like a Hamas terrorist. Somebody PLEASE explain to me why?
98. Messianic "jews" are christian sect
moti ,   ashkelon   (03.21.08)
Don't present them as if they were a kind of jew group. They are christian sect that are lying to convert jews. "Messianic jew" is just a commercial name to sell their propaganda and harass people in a softer way.
99. #63 true Jews are one-way
observer   (03.21.08)
they want Christians to recognize them, but fail to recognize Christians. Jews' greed demands Christ acceptance, but do not accept Christ.
100. Messian Jews - Brought to You By the Presbytirian Church
Thomas   (03.21.08)
the largest financiers of missionary groups, who clerly have no tolerance for religionsthat are not like their own.
101. messianic "jews"= GOYIM.Do not get deluded,please.
Keren ,   Israel-SP   (03.21.08)
102. The real question here
yaakov ,   jerusalem   (03.21.08)
is not whether Jews who believe in Jesus are real Jews. You can argue this til you're blue in the face and not prove one thing except what your opinion or prejudice is. The real question is whether Jesus was truly the Messiah prophesied by the Jewish prophets. Arguments won't prove this either. The fact is that there are actual Jews of every kind of background who have become convinced for whatever reason that Jesus is the one. They include haredim, conservative, reform and traditional Jews, Holocaust survivors, former atheists and communists, and everything else you can come up with. Some may not be too bright but others are highly educated. To attack them as not being Jewish is absurd and ignorant.
103. #63 Many native born Israeli's are Messianic Jews
Miriam Keiser ,   Oklahoma City, USA   (03.21.08)
Many Messianic Jews are Sabras. Why do you want to send Israeli believers in Yeshua out of their nation. They serve in the IDF also.
104. Jews can be Christians!
Lorrie ,   USA   (03.21.08)
Judaism is a religion. Christianity is a religion. Being Jewish is your race like being German or Chinese. Any race can be a Christian so to say you are a Christian (Messianic) Jew is perfectly fine. Someone hating that fact has a big problem!
105. #80
(03.21.08)
Say? who is the authority once the temple is rebuilt (eventually it will happen)? I'll give you a hint starts with a C (well strictly speaking no... but in hebrew theres one way to spell it) or K and ends with an N.
106. #88
Jane   (03.21.08)
What happened to this boy is awful. He and his family, however, are not Jewish.
107. #102
Jane   (03.21.08)
No one is attacking them. But those who believe that Jesus was "the Christ" are Christ-ians. They are not Jews.
108. Rivkah, G-d doesn't literally curse people
John ,   USA   (03.21.08)
If this was the case some Christians would be a mighty cursed people. How Rivkah understands G-d (god) determines how she views what salvation is, and her understanding of G-ds love. Its a frame of thinking or LIFE. If you grow up thinking that G-d is a mean master who punishes you because you do not believe or do a certain thing (as I was raised), then you are held bondage to this certain thing or belief. I was never a good child who did bad once in awhile....I was a bad child who tried to do good once in awhile. However; If a person believes that G-d has always forgiven and loves them, then Torah is a way to express their recognition and love for the Creator (fellowship).
109. #97, Because the Christian Jesus is a different Messiah
John ,   USA   (03.21.08)
A Christain Jesus is an unbilical Messiah as Christians portray him. Instead of believing in a pagan type sacrifice / god feeding etc. you should Lead Christians to the truth. Jesus was supposed to take the anti-semtic racism from the nations (punishment), upon himself. To live in peace, so they can grow close to G-d and His Holy Word. Messiah is not a magic blood flesh man sacrifice to get to heaven belief system. This is a different religion that started many years later, a composite really of Judaism, mystery religion, Zoastrianism. They don't have to physically die to know G-d.
110. Charles...blessings to you. There were sub-sects
John ,   USA   (03.21.08)
of Jews / Essenes who held to "twin Messiahs". The "Aaronic Messiah", and then the "Davidic Messiah" who would be the restoration of the true kingship. There are also variations of Messianic themes or multiple Messiahs through different ages. Sort of like how some Jews view and ongoing resurrection. I wish I wasn't half way around the world...I would like to have coffee with some of you folks.
111. Yaakov, Guilt is a mean thing..
John ,   USA   (03.21.08)
G-d could say that he forigives his people, but guilt still piles up. Some peoples of the world thought that they could appease or feed the god(s), by killing animals or people etc. in place of the man to satisfy the gods appetite, and this god(s) would find favor with them. This is what the prupose of sacrifice is to them. However to me, sacrifice was/is MANS way of killing off his animal self (or flesh soul) so that my life spirit (blood) could be close to G-d. I am the sacrifice. g-d did not need my sacrifice. I did. The nations have a different view on sacrifice, and depending on how a person understands G-d (guilt gets in way) depends on whether he is a god that needs feeding, or a G-d who wants to be close to be through sacrifice of myself.
112. Read Here The Prophecies Of Messiah ...
Craig Crawford ,   Laguna Niguel USA   (03.21.08)
Messianic Jews are simply Jews who believe the words spoken by the prophets ... The Bible told us Messiah would ride triumphantly into Jerusalem . . . Meek and lowly . . . riding on a donkey "Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion (Israel)! Behold, your King (Messiah) is coming to you; He is just and having salvation, yet He is lowly and riding on a donkey." (Zechariah 9:9) He would be betrayed by a friend "Even my own familiar friend in whom I trusted, who ate my bread, has lifted up his heel against me." (Psalm 41:9) They would set a price on Him of 30 pieces of silver . . . which would then be thrown into the potter's field "So they weighed out for my wages thirty pieces of silver. And the LORD said to me, ‘Throw it to the potter’ - that princely price they set on me." (Zechariah 11:12-13) The Messiah would be despised and rejected . . . and would feel the pain of rejection "He is despised and rejected by men, A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief." (Isaiah 53:3) The Messiah would be despised "He was despised, and we did not esteem Him." (Isaiah 53:3) The Messiah would be despised by the world ... and rejected by Israel "The Redeemer of Israel, their Holy One, To Him whom man (the world) despises, To Him whom the nation (Israel) abhors." (Isaiah 49:7) The Messiah would be beaten, bloodied, and would die for our iniquities (sins) so we could escape the judgment . . . the darkness and torments of Hell "But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes [whip lashes] we are healed. And the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity [sin] of us all." (Isaiah 53:5-7) (The Hebrew noun used for 'He' was singular and cannot refer to the whole nation of Israel ...) Yet, as the Passover Lamb of God, He would remain silent during His ordeal "He was led as a lamb to the slaughter, And as a sheep before its shearers is silent, So He opened not His mouth." (Isaiah 53:7) He would be Crucified . . . a torturous and agonizing death "All My bones are out of joint . . . My tongue clings to My jaws; They pierced My hands and My feet, They look and stare at Me." (Psalm 22:14, 15, 16, 17) The Messiah would be despised by the world and rejected by Israel "The Redeemer of Israel, their Holy One, To Him whom man (the world) despises, To Him whom the nation (Israel) abhors." (Isaiah 49:7) (It sounds like you qualify for fulfilling this prophecy) He would be Crucified . . . "My God, My God, why have You forsaken me?" (Psalm 22:1 . . . also see Matt 27:46) Note: With these words from the Cross, Jesus-Yeshua was pointing the Jewish leaders to Psalm 22. The Jewish leaders who were gathered around the Cross knew the Scriptures well. Psalm 22 is a detailed prophecy foretelling the death of the Messiah on the Cross. The Messiah would be quickly resurrected (raised from the dead) . . . "For You will not leave my soul in Sheol [Hell], Nor will You allow Your Holy One [the Messiah] to see corruption [decompose]." (Ps 16:10) The Jewish Messiah [Christ] would be a savior to all peoples, including Jews and non-Jews alike . . . thus fulfilling the Abrahamic Covenant "I will also give You as a light to the Gentiles [non-Jews], That You should be My salvation [saving people from the darkness and torments of Hell] to the ends of the Earth." (Isaiah 49:6) Grace and Shalom, www.alphanewsdaily.com
113. 102 Yaakov , are you sane ?
charles ,   petach tikva   (03.21.08)
Haridim who believe that jesus is the mashiach ? or traditional Jews ? For TRUE Jews the Maschiach has still to come .
114. wrong jews
hans ,   stuttgart germany   (03.21.08)
in the past centurys tousends of jews were killed in the name of jesus by christians so how can he bee the messias sure not to am israel
115. the bottom line; Jews are not by blood line
observer   (03.21.08)
116. Rivka's True Colors
Thomas   (03.21.08)
"Jews are blinded by God to the name of the Messiah so they are not held accountable as are Israelites (most white people) " Thank you for leaving us.
117. #103
Jane   (03.21.08)
Beduin serve also. I see no reason why Christian citizens who want to serve cannot do so. I do, however, emphasize that they are not Jews. A person who believes in the concept of Jesus as "the Christ", is not a Jew. Full stop.
118. # 97 Buddha was a Philosopher
Thomas   (03.21.08)
He did not claim to be God. I see no difference in a Jew today reading the Budha's teaching and Maimonedes and his students who studied the ancient Greek Philosophers and the Islamic philosophers of their time. Furthermore, when a Jew mediates with a Buddhist or a Hindu he surely isn't in the company of a bigot like Observer and you know that.
119. If any Jew votes democrat....
Moysh ,   USA   (03.21.08)
If any American Jew votes democrat, he is NOT a Jew. Jewish values of hard work, learning English, getting an education Jewish & Republican values, not democrat values.
120. Rivkah
jeff ,   nyc   (03.21.08)
I fell sad that a boy was injured. If he was attacked by Jew, Christian or Muslim it is terrible. There are evil people in any religion. On to you. Stop sermonizing on Jesus. You have every right to feel religiously fulfilled. You may want to share your news with me, but I don't want it. I have found by belief in my own religion. You may not like that, but please leave me be. I, in turn, will not missionize you.
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