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Former general: Israel can't defeat Iran
Dudi Cohen
Published: 18.12.08, 17:49
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61. #17 Aharon - Agree with some points
(12.19.08)
But I think you're dreaming about the possibility - I mean a genuine agreement , with the Palestinians. That wont happen. They're part of the effort to oust Jews and conquer Israel. Any 'deal' as we've seen recently, is only to serve this ulterior motive. They're not interested in their own state at all unless it encompasses the entire area. They've said that , over and over - and they mean it. So, I think you were doing OK with some arguments - but its this key area where no solution exists except military - talking only serves the palestinians - meanwhile the rockets continue despite agreements. Israel will go down. She has no direction and cannot , will not behave in the way she needs to survive in the ME... and that is to be like her enemies - bloodthirsty and ruthless.
62. #44 & #46 - Especially Bandaid
(12.19.08)
Enjoy your fantasy , but it shows the delusional, deficient persian/arabic thinking ...IF it got to that stage , where there are multiple fronts and major hits are taken , we'd all expect this would include an endless shower of missiles and rockets too on such a small area - its clear Israel's existence is threatened and she can not defend with conventional weapons. Even complete morons like you should know what happens next. YOU ARE GONE (too)
63. Siad, you are delusional
kevin ,   p. elizabeth   (12.19.08)
If Iran is so powerful, why were they not able to defeat Iraq, a country with only 20% of IranĀ“s population? Israel can crush Iran in one sunny afternoon.
64. Iran and False Allah
USABorn   (12.19.08)
Whether you believe the Bible or not, its pages are alive in front of our own eyes. According to the Bible, war with Iran and other Arab nations is inevitible. God promises that enemies of Israel will turn against one another. They will enter into Israel, but it is Israel who wins more territory. It will take Israel six months to bury THE dead not their dead. Then the world will be saying Peace, Peace. A condition to peace will result in the Third Temple. Look at Israel compared to the countries that surround her. She is green and flourishing. Prosperous in many ways. Allah has treated Iran like a false god would. The God of Israel will never leave or foresake them. Israel will never cease to be again. We all need to pray to God on Israel's behalf, and on the world's behalf. There is peace knowing God is still in charge.
65. #46: So you're suggesting Iran can't win by itself?
Global Citizen ,   Israel & USA   (12.19.08)
Because if we're talking about buddy wars, we have the US and several countries in Europe. So good luck with that, and remember that more Arabs/Muslims than Jews die when Israel is attacked.
66. Who did foresee the opening of the Red sea?
Asher ,   NY,USA   (12.19.08)
I believe the whole world will believe in G-od of Israel when they see even the Nukes couldn't destroy HIS people. Wait ,Watch and Believe.
67. Iranian know
adami ,   in here   (12.19.08)
despite the rethorics coming from mahmoahmadneiad is nothing compare to what the threats and craps we hear every day coming out of your side. iranians in general have no ill wish towards any one especially Israel. they did not have an 8 year war with you, they know who their enmies are, despotic rulers who incite their pepole with cult verison belives against iran. so to you all armchair warriores, just relax mahmood is out of office soon. we all know his words are twisted some what , and your poloticians know how to manipulate hard working US tax payers for creating iranphobia.Iran emerging as a power is because of its profound intelectual capacity and his young base populations and some what robust resources , economy geopolitically , all combine to augment its profile as a power that the jewish state has to learn to share and live with.sorry facts are facts uni polar power is ebbing .can not divide the moslem world and conquere by secterial division. their leaders are convinently dumb but you pepole knoe better . peace
68. Foolish to strike Iran
Ziggy ,   Sydney NSW Australia   (12.19.08)
If the USA or Israel attacks Iran, apart from it being a highly illegal act of war, the consequences will be devastating. Iran will immediately withdraw from the NPT and start acquiring nuclear weapons, whereas right now Iran is sticking to the NPT and there is not a sign of any nukes - it's all propaganda and disinformation from the neocons. Secondly, Iran which obviously is not a pushover like Iraq, can do a lot of damage to Israel, even annihilate it - 70 million people against 5 million, half of whom are Arabs that will turn on Israel on the inside as a fifth column. The bottom line is - an Israeli attack on Iran is akin to Israel committing suicide. So Israel should just shut up and stop making stupid threats. Under the NPT, Iran has the legal right to a nuclear program and Israel or the USA does not have any right to try and prevent Iran from exercising its legal rights. Iran does not have to accept any inducements to abandon its rights either. That's the bottom line.
69. IRAN THE MOUSE THAT BARKED
pat ,   usa   (12.19.08)
just as big mouth sadam and arab leaders hype up there people with bull before total defeat so will be the fate of the paper tiger iran with its second rate military .
70. #23
Nick ,   USA   (12.19.08)
Did you forget about solar power. Iran is well in to green than you can think
71. #51 #39 and #16
Nick ,   USA   (12.19.08)
#39, if size matters to you let me know I can keep you warm too. #51 . Any strike on Iran, will strengthen the regime and the Iranian nations than having an opposite affect. Besides Persians will never forget. They are proud people and will revenge even if takes 1000 years. lastly what makes you think they don't have Nuclear capability? One thing for sure they will not be the first to use it. But if they are forced to, it will reuqire only 1 bomb of the smallest size, similar to the size of your brain. And they will use it if they are forced. Popular saying" If you are about to go to hell, then go like a man and take them all with you" #16. Finally a pesron in this blog I can admire. You definitely know your history and know the region very well. Let Israel know that Iran isn't really their enemy, on the contrary it would be best if both Iran and Israel come out of closet and let people know they have been dealing secretly for a long time. What they say in the media is for domestic consumption. Persians are not found of Arabs. It was Cyrus the Great Persian king who freed the Jews from Babylonians . Check it online if you need to. On the other hand Persians are kind people and they can't withstand innocent Palestinans be killed on daily baisis with world just watching. No one cares about them even Arabs
72. Mark #54
Brod ,   USA   (12.19.08)
You sound more like an Islamist-Jihadist Trojan Horse in Holland extolling the Islamist-Jihadist terrorist that attacked Bush during a press conference. You do not need to garb yourself with a Christian name. Of course, your Islamist-Jihadist Hezbollah terrorists were obliterated in Southern Lebanon by Israel. So, don't talk about them defeating Israel.
73. Siad #59
Brod ,   USA   (12.19.08)
What makes you think Iran is invincible? Do you think the Ayatollahs can defeat Israel? Do you know Israel well?
74. ....and you would think....
oded   (12.19.08)
that someone in eiland's stataure would know to keep his opinios to himslef... israel doesn't need to defeat iran, just cripple it... and if it all fails, well , there's always dimona.......
75. Another testosteroneless IDIOT BLATHERING
dr. dave ,   usa   (12.19.08)
The most important key to deterrent is to keep the enemy guessing and wondering. Eiland just handed the ayatollahs the answer they need to hear as Israelis are being prepped by military "experts" to accept defeat. Great job Eiland...another ballsless military has-been working for the ayatollahs.
76. Mark and Brod: Daniel in the Bible talks about a ram with
Rivkah   (12.19.08)
two horns that is subdued by a he-goat with a notable horn between its eyes that comes from the ends of the earth and touches not the ground. That could not be Alexander the Great since Greece was not a nation from the ends of the earth relative to Jerusalem, the central point of God's directional references. Daniel said the ram with two horns is Media-Persia and it will be subdued, the smaller horn (Iraq) first and the larger horn (Persia or Iran) later. The he-goat is a Grecian power which can mean Greek or Gentile according to Stong's Concordance. The he-goat or UN with the notable horn (USA) subdues the ram. Israel will likely be attacked with Jerusalem possibly being nuked to provoke the West to attack Iran and subdue it. Ezekiel chapter 38 talks about a later war that Israel will win against Russia and Persia and Libya and a lot of other nations because the Lord causes 5/6 of those forces to be destroyed by an earthquake in the mountains of Israel as well as a plague that melts the eyes which may be nuclear weapons or rain with volcanic ash causing sulfuric acid to form and melt the eyes. More likely nuclear. That is the Samson Option and Israel will win.
77. #40 YOU ARE TO FUNNY FOR WORDS(END)
ilyse ,   usa   (12.19.08)
78. Arabs should actually be routing for Israel against Iran.
Tahl ,   Israel   (12.19.08)
I see no practical reasons at all, for all the Arab commentator here, to gloat so much. What interest exactly does it serve them, if Iran gains more and more power and even defeats Israel? They know they're next... If Sadam had no mercy on his Kuweiti neighbors which were just as Arab - then who said thing would be better with Fundamentalist Iran being a regional superpower? If anything the Arabs of the region (Palestinians not included) should be glad that Israel is still here to counter the Iranian insanity. And Israel, contrary to Iran, poses no threat to anyone in here, which does not attack it. Of course no Arab would openly agree with me here, but they know it deep in their hearts.
79. Eiland
efraim granda ,   tel aviv. IL   (12.19.08)
when the Israeli generals will shut there big mouth allredy. agane and agane we see all they do under soprise atack is fyting emong themself, and the wore left to the reguler suldger.
80. #12 RAMBrOd, Funny that you know better than
(`;`) IL   (12.19.08)
Former GENERAL EILAND
81. Stupidity
Septimus ,   Rome   (12.19.08)
I will not go into specific but Eiland is wrong. Not only the Shiite entity can be defeated, but it will. Eiland is delusive as Olmert. The situation will change when Netanyahu will be elected in february.. The quetsion is only a quetsion of willpower.The fake Teheran regime and their Lebanese Shiite goons has not the ability to maintain for long a military strike on Israel in the event of a war with Israel, while Israel can, and will obliterate the Shiite entity if that country dare to use non conventional ((chemical) weapons. Yet, when the war will begin with that evil country, their won't be any electronical device working there for long and their Northe Korean array will be useless while their Nuclear peogram will sit in rubble!
82. Iran
DT ,   TA Isr   (12.19.08)
Whose talking about eliminating ?!Maximum creation for delaying needs to be the order of the day.
83. Nuclear Deterrent .. Iran needs one to Deter Isreal
R Hitchings ,   Methil   (12.19.08)
Just as Israel needs to deter others.. To use Nuclear weapons is to misunderstand what they are for.. to be used to Deter others. To use them is a complete failure and utter Madness. Like it or not Iran will have its Nuclear Deterrent .. so Live in Peace
84. Defeatism=the next Final Solution. Make up your mind!
NobodyCares ,   Chicago   (12.19.08)
Either follow the 'logic' of your new leaders and generals, decline to deter, weaken yourself internally, arm and invite your enemies, be manipulated by your friends, and kiss the State of Israel goodbye. OR Dig down deep and know who you are, Stop apologizing to everyone for living, including the USA and Europe. Don't 'attack', rather DEFEAT utterly, your enemies, take the heat of World Opinion bearing down on you, including that of your newly appointed ObamaMessiah... and live! Decide already. This soap opera is getting old.
85. EILAND'S MISGUIDED COMMENTS.
EARL MANN ,   TORONTO, CANADA   (12.19.08)
EILAND'S THESIS IS FLAWED IN MANY WAYS, NOT LEAST HIS ASSUMPTION THAT IRAN WOULD ATTACK THE U.S ... BUZZER SOUND: HE IS DEAD WRONG. SHOULD IRAN BE SO FOOLISH, THEN AMERICA WOULD BE OBLIGATED TO RETURN THE FAVOR. ISRAEL MAY NOT HAVE THE WHEREWITHALL TO STOP IRAN COLD - BUT THE U.S.A COULD. BETTER SOONER THAN LATER ... IE: BEFORE RUSSIAN INSTALLS THE S-300 ANTI-AIRCRAFT MISSILE BATTERIES. IF WE ARE NOT FOR OURSELVES WHO WILL BE? AND IF NOT NOW - WHEN?
86. #59 Siad
Cynthia ,   USA   (12.19.08)
What impresses you about Iran's military? They haven't fought a war in 20 years and the war they fought was a bloody 8 year period where thousands of people died for nothing. Most of their technology is imported. They repeat the same anti-US, anti-Israel military parades and are known for photoshoped missile launches. Iran's nuclear program has practically bankrupted the country.
87. Not what we think, idiot!
(12.19.08)
Its what the ex General thinks. Boy, your posts reflect those of an idiot.
88. #72 Brod
(12.19.08)
Its not me fool, its Winograd!
89. Stop all the garbage
martin ,   Miami, FL, USA   (12.19.08)
I read replies to this article, it is laughable by the ignorance of some. General Eilan knows what he is talking about and beyond that he is being very careful. Iran has already announced they will fire 11,000 missile on Israel within the first few minutes/hours of an attack on them, targetting Dimona and other nuclear facilities of Israel. One has to be very careful assuming out of 11000 at least 1100 not to hit Israel and out of those at least 1 not to hit something danerous. Is this a risk Israel wants to take? Let the usa take the lead of the negotiation with Iran and get of this cycle of madness.
90. #86 Cynthia
Mark ,   Holland   (12.19.08)
Stop deluding yourself Cynthia. When Iran fought a war over 20 years ago, Iran was in chaos. The situation has changed drasticlly since then. Iran, like it or not is a major power and has replaced Israel as the super power of the region. You may be better informed than General Eiland, but I doubt that very much, no disrespect intended.
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