ALL Christians branch from the same idolatrous Hellenist Roman trunk and the same idolatrous Hellenist Roman root of their forcible supersession and displacement of Torah-teaching Jews in 135 C.E., forcibly cloaking a Torah-teaching Pharisee Ribi in Begedim Tzoim. All Christians, Catholics and Protestants, subscribe to the NT as ultimate authority; and the NT is intrinsically and unavoidably misojudaic by nature of being supersessionist and a displacement theology. When you have translated ALL of the earliest extant source mss. of the NT up through the 4th century--as I have--then you'll be unable to avoid or the your ill-informed misconceptions you've learned in Sunday School, from those who regurgitate what their Church tells them like you do, instead of a university history class. Protestants trying to blame all of Christianity's ills on Catholics just won't fly. You're both in it together. I disagree with the majority of datim only on one point: if you don't teach your children the claims and fallacies of Christianity vis-a-vis Torah then you fail your children and have no right to be surprised when they send you a pamphlet from Jews for Jzeus extolling their new religion. Substituting fabulist superstitions for rational, scientific and logical answers is why so many young people drift away from Torah. Read the Shema about "sharpening your children." Paqid Yirmeyahu Paqid 16, The Netzarim, Ra'anana, Israel Israeli Orthodox Jew (Teimani Baladi Dardai) Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il

and he can't answer the question people ask . Wich Beth Din recognised you as a Jew [ as you claim without ANUY PROOF ] who were the 26 Orthodox Rabbanim who recognised you as a Jew . And also when ? did you tell them about you ribi yeshua ? Did they know it ?

I'm secular but I want Israel to be united in Judaism and Zionism. So the teaching of Christianity should not be confused with missionary activities. We already have so many Muslims, Christians, Druze, mostly Christian Russians and so on. We need a united Israel, not divided. Missionaries would only cause more problems for us.

It should only be taught by an Orthodox rabbi or someone appointed and authorized by an Orthodox rabbi. Paqid Yirmeyahu Paqid 16, The Netzarim, Ra'anana, Israel Israeli Orthodox Jew (Teimani Baladi Dardai) Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il

And why do Catholics regard Protestants as heretics, and Protestants regard Catholics as blasphemous? And your accusations regarding the factual differences between Judaism and Christianity as being "misojudaic" seem a bit paranoid. Not all differences are a result of "hate" or the desire to "suppress." Your writings reveal that seem to be a product of an obscure historical viewpoint or simply stuck in the theological past. Both Christian and Jewish understanding of the development of both religions has vastly evolved toward a better understanding of both separately and in relation to each other through time. You should learn about how Judaism was steeped in Hellenism even before the time of Jesus, not to mention since then until now. At least that is the general scholarly consensual understanding these days.

Obviously being inChina you seem to be a bit out of touch with reality. FYI the majority of Israelis are non religious. Being Jewish to different people means different things.if you choose to be ultra orthadox and to live your life according to the Torah well fine, however it is a persons basic right to exercise free will of thinking and to decide his or her level of religious observence or not at all. My grandparents were not religious but were considered jewish enough to be murdered in the holocaust, what was left of our family came to live in Israel to escape further persecution, hope thats alright with you !

im with you there man. a tool for the weak to control the strong, a reason to suspend reason and an excuse for good people to do terrible things. the superstitious musings of tribes of goat-herders long since dead have no relevance to our lives today and the sooner we realise this, the better.

I am a Muslim. We believe in Mohammad, Jesus and Moses, no difference between them.

A simple Google would have answered that question for you. Not all differences are due to hate. I didn't say that. But all differences from Judaism that distinguish and define Christianity are [a] traceable to Hellenism not Judaism and [b] prohibited by Torah. Further, as I've said and Luther emphasized even more so than the pope and Catholics, all Christians, by definition, subscribe to the NT as ultimate authority--and the NT is intrinsically, unavoidably and irredeemably misojudaic. Hence, by definition, so are all Christians. The exceptions are those who, however inadvertently, deny parts of the NT they are unaware of--which makes them less Christian, not Christians less misojudaic; and the less Christian, IMO, the better person. Your question about Hellenism is an excellent question and wondered by many. Contrary to your assertion, though--and the insistent but ill-informed and misojudaic Scandinavian school of "Ioudaios"--there is NOT a consensus among scholars that Judaism was steeped in Hellenism B.C.E. In fact, it was only one of the three major sects, one of the two branches of the Tzedoqim priests in the "Temple", that was Hellenized. You're lacking in knowledge of Judaic history is demonstrated by your unfamiliarity with the introduction of Hellenism: the pre-Khanukah account of two High Priests in B.C.E. 167: Yekhonyah Ben-Shimon and his Hellenizing brother, Yehoshua Ben-Shimon". Dead Sea Scroll 4Q MMT demonstrates that both Pharisees and the original (Yekhonyah / "Righteous Teacher") Tzedoqim rejected and condemned the Hellenist Tzedoqim as "Wicked Priests." The Pharisees--from Ribi Yehoshua and the Netzarim until now (called Orthodox today) still do. Paqid Yirmeyahu Paqid 16, The Netzarim, Ra'anana, Israel Israeli Orthodox Jew (Teimani Baladi Dardai) Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il

and a self proclaimed Halachic authority . Not recognised by ANY TRUE Jewish Rabbinical instance . He is what i describe as a self-hating christian . He can only INSULT people who disagree , not give any justification of his deceiving writings . Only lies , big lies .

#36 doesn't mean a living israeli orthodox rabbi of any repute that endorses his teachings as kosher according to the normal standards of judaism (because there is no such rabbi by his own admission), but instead he means to recommend a regular orthodox rabbi. and i do find that rather ironic.

Exact polar opposites in meaning. The word "Israel" means "one that wrestles or contends with God". Jacob received this name when he wrestled with the angel and would not let him go until he received the blessing of God. He aquired the name Israel: “Your name shall no longer be Jacob, but Israel; for you have striven with God and with men and have prevailed.” (Gen. 32) Islam, on the other hand, means "surrender, submission". A Moslem surrenders his free will and submits to the will of Allah. This concept is the exact polar opposite of the defining moment in the foundation of "Am Israel". You are confusing these fundamental paradigms with ritual purity laws, emphasized in Rabbinical Judaism, and which, admittedly, Islam has adopted to a much greater extent than Christianity. Nevertheless, despite centuries of Paul-inspired Church policy oriented away from Jewish law, the fact remains that Jesus, his early followers, and the early Church all adhered to the laws of Moses in full, and the New Testament itself quotes Jesus as saying that the Law stands forever.

The origins of Judaism is also Pagan...All religions are based on Paganism....Sacrificing Bulls is not Pagan?..

I am a beiiver in Jesus Christ. I pray for the Jewish nation on a regular basis. Mr 42 is wrong, Jesus Christ is the Lord. I ask when the last time anyone else walked on water, healed the sick and died for our sins. When is the last time a Christian went and killed someone in the name of Jesus Christ. Please tell me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am a born again Christian and do not consider myself a Catholic nor does the Pope represent anything to me. I think most born again Christians would feel the same. You are missing out if you don't study the New Testament because it is the revelation of what was concealed in the Old Testament. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

If you believe Moses then you're obligated to accept the Torah he gave on Har Sinai. According to the Torah given on Har Sinai (Dt. 13.1) there can be no additions to Torah--which invalidates your Quran. Further, Torah declares (Dt. 13.2-6) that Mohammad--because he taught that Quran supersedes Torah--is a false prophet. Paqid Yirmeyahu Paqid 16, The Netzarim, Ra'anana, Israel Israeli Orthodox Jew (Teimani Baladi Dardai) Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il

By True Jewish Believers , only by the followers of this ribi yeshua , a guy considered the messias by goyim as this p*qid .

Do you deny that the Jewish sages throughout the centuries were untainted by Hellenism? Ever heard of Ibn Ezra? Maimonides? Saadia Gaon, to name a few? Of course they rejected Hellenism, but they studied it, were influenced by it, and relied on it. Judaism and Hellenism are inseparable I'm sorry to inform you. As for the NT is "intrinsically, unavoidably and irredeemably misojudaic," in your words, you are in very little company in that regard. Your demonizing and mischaracterizing harms your credibility. Maybe that's the norm among the Orthodox there, but religious extremists are interested in promoting an agenda, often at the expense of truth. And I see that you converted from Christianity, which probably explains your extremism. It is unfortunate that you rely on that extremism to try to make your point because you are prone to err. I only say that because you seem to claim to have a logical approach.

do we pick and choose what we answer? i think he has a very valid point, one similar to what i've asked. only i asked if jewish persecution of christians is a mitzva? specifically, was it wrong for religious jews to bomb the house of the boy in ariel? or is it 'misojudaic' to even ask the question? as with all other uncomfortable questions we've asked, we're waiting for answers for the self-appointed 'answer man' do enlighten us.

Jeff, you ask: "when the last time anyone else walked on water..." well, I don't know when was the last time, but I can tell you Mythra did ALL the things Jebus did before Jebus reputedly did!!! Does that make Mythra G*d too?

Jeff, are you seriously asking when was the last time someone killed in the name of Jebus? Again, I don’t know when the last time was, but I am confident it was very recently. Hopefully, your question was rhetorical as history is replete with examples of this.

it comes to non-Jews in general. As far as Christianity and Islam go, they are both derived from Judaism, so why all the fear? It's not the religions that Jews are wary of, it's the way some of their adherents express their negative views toward Jews that is worrisome.

#5 is not an authority. But to be fair, he didn't say the New Testament is immoral, he said that it CAUSES immorality.

Rejecting Hellenism does NOT equate to steeped in Hellenism. As for the NT being misojudaic, there is almost wall-to-wall consensus on that point, even among most historians; probably even most Christians who are legitimate historians in major universities of the world. Such passages in NT are blatant and plentiful. Please demonstrate, rather than insinuate, error--AFTER you've read Parkes (The Conflict of the Church and the Synagogue) and (AFTER reading Parkes) http://www.netzarim.co.il/Calendar/Khanukah.htm#Hellenism Paqid Yirmeyahu Paqid 16, The Netzarim, Ra'anana, Israel Israeli Orthodox Jew (Teimani Baladi Dardai) Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il