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Rabbinate to discuss civil marriage for first time
Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 04.03.09, 12:35
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61. David , your belief is NOT Jewish
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (03.10.09)
You can always convert to Judaism if you want to be accepted . But you don't want to give up your yeshua . So who is at fault ? Your belief is NOT a Jewish one , so why should we accept you ? Give me one serious reason why someone who's belief is not Jewish , should be accepted as a Jew .
62. To 60 , you don't WANT to be accepted
Rav M. ,   Jerusalem   (03.10.09)
If you truly wanted to , you would give up your belief in y....a . Chales is right . A happy Purim to all Jews
63. A bewildered David
Alan Ira Silver ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (03.10.09)
The First Commandment contained subject matter which directed us not to have any other deities. If you are on a religious seesaw where you wish to have your cake & eat it too referring to the X-tian person and The Almighty - your statement is that you are not committed to the Jewish faith. We follow a matriarchal lineage and so it is all determined by the mother. I am not here to attack you but from reading your postings from time to time I see that you have a religious conflict. Judaism IS NOT a recipe where you are ¼ this and ¾ of that. Either you are or you are not a Jew – plain and very much to the point.
64. #62 and #63
David ,   USA, exile   (03.10.09)
Once again, either I am not making myself clear or you are avoiding the question. If you do not wish to accept me, fine, I could care less. My religion has nothing to do with the question. You are once again mixing the religious and genetic. I simply want to know how you know the bloodline is pure, and if you don't, then what difference does it make after 2000 years who marries who? How can you corrupt a bloodline that has already been corrupted? How do you keep a Mitzvah without a pure bloodline to start with. If you can't prove it are you not a mamzer already? Is this question too difficult for the whole Nation of Yisra'el? Regarding believing in two G-ds, I do not! I say Sh'ma three times a day. I believe Yeshua is Mashiach. I believe HIm to be Elohim which means most powerful. I believe He is the physical manifestation of the One G-d, not a seperate G-d. But what does this have to do with the genetics question? Answer the question if you can and forget about me wanting to be accepted by you. I am already accepted by G-d. That is good enough for me.
65. David , don't be so foolish
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (03.10.09)
We can only accept you as a Jew if you convert , is it clear ? The Halachah decides who is Jewish , it's no only genetically , converts become also Jews by Halachah . The Halachah decides . Telling that you are "spiritually" a Jew has'nt any value , that's not Halachah . Ask all this to your "spiritually" church brother you defend so "nicely" , this p*qid
66. #53 David
Connie ,   Virginia   (03.11.09)
Sorry it's taken this long to respond to your tb. Yes I know what you mean. Romans 2 :29
67. The spiritually NON Jew , with the STOLEN name
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (03.11.09)
You are not a Jew . You have'nt ANY Jewish Gene in your christian body . This is probably my last post to you , and the last from anyone . I dislike thieves , people who claim to be what they are'nt .
68. And while all od you disagree and fight over this...
Aaron ,   SF, USA   (03.11.09)
A scared Jew in America wishes that Israel can unite so that the quest for Peace can finally be won. It starts at the home, and if disputes over "who is Jewish" or who is not Jewish enough tear the country apart than how can it succeed in other areas.
69. Aaron ,
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (03.11.09)
It's not "who is Jew or who is'nt Jewish enough" . It's Jewish or NOT . But don't be so scared , in case of true danger we'll be united .
70. #68 Aaron
David ,   USA, exile   (03.12.09)
I don't fully understand what you are saying but I can assure you that, I will always support Yisra'el. I would fight and die for Charles just as I would any Jew. He will hate for me to say it and he will deny it, but he is my brother. He just doesn't know or understand it. He and others think I am begging for their acceptance. That couldn't be farther from the truth. I was trying to get an answer from someone who knows about the genetics question in regard to the topic of marriage that this article is all about. One who answered me addressed himself as being a Rabbi and he chose to rebuke me and agree with Charles even though Charles is an athiest. That shows you where some of the Rabbis stand. They would rather embrace an athiest than one who believes in Yeshua. "Baruch haba b'shem Adonai"
71. David , if you answer me , do it directly
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (03.13.09)
I know two brothers , one says from the other : he is my brother only on paper . You think you are my brother , think it , but there is no reciprocity . There are many non Jews who support My , not your , country . There were many who fought for My country , not yours at all . A Rabbi , every TRUE Rabbi will ALWAYS agree with what i said regarding you . Can you give me the name of ONE TRUE Rabbi who will call you a Jew ? There is NO Rabbi in the world who will do it . Every Rabbi will consider me a 100 % Jew , a secular one . The genetic question . Jews have some genes , specific ones . So even if you convert , you will not have them , only your descendants will have them in some generations , if they marry true Jews . That's what a person , a scientist , told me this week .
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