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Swedish daily: IDF killed Palestinians for organs
Roni Sofer
Published: 18.08.09, 22:31
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61. Sue the paper!!
Chaim ,   Israel   (08.19.09)
62. #59 Cynthia:
Wildmandxb ,   M.E.   (08.19.09)
Is this your best shot at me? accusing me of name calling? anyway, there is nothing much to respond to, your replies not only are they unimpressive, they are mere cheap shots, trying to trying to knock over your weak opinion into a heated debate. By the way, what i mentioned about you americans, that wasn't name calling, it is something you guys approve of, watch some hollywood movies, you will find americans insulting their own people in almost every picture!
63. Terry, what's wrong with you people in Chicago?
AK   (08.19.09)
Al Dura was proven, in a French court, to be a hoax; Jenin 'massacre' was proven to be a hoax (perpetrated with the aid of lying Arab doctors and excavated dead bodies from cemeteries); There were so many lies by Arabs that only someone willfully stupid would believe anything they say. Now, this particular lie is especially nasty as it goes back to the old blood libel. You willingness to accept this totally outrageous lies shows you to be either an incredibly naive , an anti-Semite, or a new- Left follower who believes that Arabs must be right, because the're 3rd-Worlders and evil Israelis are blood-sucking imperialist monsters, because they are educated, capable and White.
64. #62, in other words, No I have no evidence whatsoever
Danny   (08.19.09)
it is just my blind prejudice that makes me believe this crap.
65. palestinian blood libels supported by Swedish press
Asaf ,   Israel   (08.19.09)
It is unbelievable that this text has even hit the paper! Today, anything the palestinians will say against Israel will be taken as fact. Another shame is that an Israeli news agency as Ynet even lists the entire article as a news item instead of adding it to the 'funnies' at the end of the newspaper...
66. editors-
Lisa   (08.19.09)
I sent a letter to the editor of the paper- he wrote back: 'I didn't write the article...." but I guess he let it be published- ? Time for Israel to recall the Ambassador- .
67. Its weird...
John ,   Tel Aviv   (08.19.09)
to read and hear over and over again, that some story like this appears, all scream anti-shemiut, naive and stupid if you believe that, blood libel and so on... If you are all so sure about yourselves, so whats the screaming for? If all accusations are already proved wrong and cannot ever have happened, whats all the writing about? I guess it is an israeli reflex somehow, as in every day life we all see similar things. Even if a guy runs over a pedestrian and 1000 people saw it, he will claim: "It wasnt me, I swear!" So folks, please, keep it down and stay human, as you claim IDF behaves like this. Another thing: how democratic a lot of people think and what they think of freedom of speech even if it hurts sometimes is shown here more than clear in a lot of talkbacks. More than just a pity!!!
68. to 40 #
(08.19.09)
tell that to GOD numbnuts. by the way.. JESUS was jewish!!!
69. Do not ignore anti-Semitism.
Ron B. ,   Lod   (08.19.09)
Do not ignore the hate of Jews : you know where it starts, you never know how and when it stops. As to antisemitism in Sweden : http://xrl.us/beiqsm
70. Dogmatic Denial
G Stein ,   Scotland   (08.19.09)
What a strange country you live in. A foreign paper makes some really serious accusations against your armed forces and all I hear are reflex denials (and the usual shouts for boycotts and of antisemitism). I would think in most other countries there would be a public outcry for a enquiry.
71. international press
Lisa   (08.19.09)
the article is now quoted in the international press- they are very careful and use 'alleged' a lot- the Aftonbladet is not a respected paper- but still- THIS time the FM should recall th Embassador- ,
72. #35 you know AL DURA WAS A HOAX SO STOP YOUR BULL
rachel ,   usa   (08.19.09)
73. # 11
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (08.19.09)
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE SWEDISH PRESS ? The Swedish press is not in love with the Muslims,but certainly,they are in bed with them.
74. Sweden
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (08.19.09)
The great swed,Yaser Arafath used to blame Israel for using nuclear ammunition against the palestinians,thousand and one night.
75. #34, Enough of your red herrings and straw men
Jake   (08.19.09)
You fill up pages and pages of such utter nonsense, Alofs, just to justify a blood libel! We are not talking about the removal of organs from people at morgues who are already dead, which may be unethical, but is not murder. (I remind you such things have been going on in Britain for years). The Swedish newpaper was accusing Israeli soldiers of snatching Palestinians and murdering them to make use of their organs. This is a typical phenomenon of much of the world media, which engages in demonization of Israel out of pure political motivation, just like you do, but best of luck to find a journalist among them that speaks a word of Hebrew and can investigate even a single such allegation. This has been going on since the days of the Medieval blood libels, and nothing has changed.
76. Organ transplants
Marilyn ,   USA   (08.19.09)
Of course it's ridiculous. The media needs to have some kind of proof when it publishes, besides some one said so. For example if these doctors found this doing the autopsies, I'm sure that they would have said something. Also with some of the organ donations the people have to be alive and in the operating room before death. Doctors cannot just go up to dead people and take out major organs.
77. This anti-Jewish blood libel reminds one of the darkest days
Joe ,   Halifax, NS Canada   (08.19.09)
of Europe. Indeed, it reminds me of what I left behind in 1946... And it reminds me to see to it that my present business activities with Sweden are going to be part of the past. Never Again!
78. Complain to the Swedish Embassy in Israel
Tamir ,   Jerusalem, ISRAEL   (08.19.09)
On http://www.ilyameyer.com/letter you can sign and send a letter of protest to the Swedish Embassy in Israel. There is a ready written e-mail you can just sign, or change and edit - or even rewrite from the beginning if you wish. While the Swedish Embassy might not be directly responsible for what is written in the horribly anti-Semitic article, they can be used as a medium to protest.
79. Sweden killed People of Denmark
expert   (08.20.09)
Who that don't remember that Sweden in the Middle Age, performed murder and ethnic purification against Danish people. Recently, the researchers discovered common grave of killed Danish people not far from Kopenhagen.
80. aftonbladet is right if you like it or not.
Mark ,   UK   (08.22.09)
the swedish newspaper was right, people with a sense of democracy and humanity have to believe what is advertised in newspapers specially when there is a clear evidence. the only way to get facts is to look at other sources of media and not just your usual national news. you must respect other countries media sources whether you like it or not.
81. Anti-semite and E=mc2
Kiarash ,   Stockholm, Sweden   (08.22.09)
Well, there is an equation becoming more obvious and famous than E=mc2 and that is: Criticizing Israel = Accused being anti-Semite
82. Out of proportions
Jakob ,   Uppsala Sweden   (08.22.09)
While the poor journalism of Aftonbladet sometimes have a comedy value, its obvious to me that their reporting on Israel and the middle east is heavily biased in favor of the Palestinians But, Israeli officials needs to understand that this is not an issue for the Swedish government. Sweden have laws against slander, hate crimes etc, and this should be handled by our legal system. Its political suicide for a member of the government to tell a journalist what they should and should not write. (Maybe is it ok in Israel for powerful men to tell journalists, police, judges, etc. how to do their job, but in Sweden its not.)
83.  Swedish daily: IDF killed Palestinians for organs
Naser ,   Washington DC   (08.24.09)
you must be smoking weed, There are many incidents and cases documented against the IDF, just Google it, what a lair
84. SWEDEN: LOVES JEWS
ART FRIEDMAN ,   MILWAUKEE USA   (08.24.09)
ASK HITLER HOW MUCH SWEDEN LOVES JEWS AND THE WWII ALLIES.
85. The wrong way to react...
Anna ,   Paris, France   (08.24.09)
I quite agree with the previous speaker from Scotland - what a strange reaction indeed, both from Israel government, and here on the Web. "It can't be true because it can't be true, and anyway it is all anti-Semitism." The original Swedish article does not accuse the IDF of killing people for their organs, but there is a strong suspicion that in some cases, the organs of (sub)lethally wounded could have been removed. Apparently, there exists a bunch of horror stories about such practices, and the Palestinians believe it all. Now, a Swedish tabloid journalist picks it up to make a quick buck, and lo and behold, every important person in Israel starts to jump up and down and scream, instead of defeating these lies with the help of cold contempt and clear proof. To defend itself, Israel just has to release the autopsy reports, explain why it was necessary to systematically perform autopsies on these victims, and disperse the foolish rumors. Boycotting IKEA, talking about anti-Semitism and Shoah, and forbidding the Swedish journalists to enter Israel really helps to make a mountain out of this molehill, and makes Israel look ridiculous and guilty, as if it did have something terrible to hide.
86. milatary medicine
jack ,   west coast   (08.24.09)
don't/didn't they/them have a receipt,OO,no wonder exstending life exspectancy un-naturally is so costly
87. organ dealing
david #39 - zionist ,   boston, u.s.a.   (08.25.09)
until the people responsible for supplying this rosenbaum person with the organs, the swedes are right to expose the evil zionists for their illegal activities
88. body parts
balanti ,   nyc   (08.25.09)
i can,t say it is hard to believe, because reports shows jews believe that killing others, specialy pal is ok. it was legit from faith stand point to kill children in gaza. Rabayies accused and caught brokering of sales of kiddnies in nj. How can we disbelieve this story, i would not say jews do that but zionists do it for sure, those are eivl they ethnically cleansed pal in 1948 read history.
89. investigation called for
Peppe ,   Umeå, Sweden   (08.25.09)
I'm translating the last paragraphs of the article: "The spokesman for the Israeli army said contrary to allegations of organ theft were fabrications by the Palestinians. All Palestinians who were killed are routinely subject to autopsy, he said. Bilal Achmed Ghanem was one of 133 Palestinians killed in various ways that year. According to Palestinian statistics were causes of deaths the following: shot in the street, explosions, beatings, tear gas, deliberate car accident, hung in the jail, shot in the school, killed at home, etc.. Of the 133 killed persons aged four months to 88 years, 69 were autopsied, i.e. only half of the dead. The routine autopsy of killed Palestinians, the army spokesman told is not true in reality in the Occupied Territories. Questions remain. We know that the need for organs in Israel is large, that an extensive illegal organ trade is ongoing and has been for a long time, done with the blessing of the authorities, that senior doctors at major hospitals are involved as well as officials at various levels [from previous reports, my clarification]. And we know also that the Palestinian young men disappeared and were brought back five days later in secrecy at night, and that their bodies had been opened and stitched together. It is time to shed light on this macabre activity, on what is going on and what has passed in the Israeli occupied territories since the intifada started." I'm encouraging you to read the actual story using translation services such as www.google.com/translate. The original opinion article is found at http://www.aftonbladet.se/kultur/article5652583.ab It is worth noting that the journalist Donald Broström puts a lot at stake here. If the allegations would turn out to be completely unsubstantiated and represent libel, his career as a journalist publishing in major Swedish newspapers would definitely be over. I do believe that the evidence presented is sufficient to call for an investigation, if for no other reason than to prevent the story from spreading any further. If similar accusations were made against the Swedish army, I would as a Swedish citizen demand an investigation to rule out that there would be any truth in it.
90. One of many stories...
Melbourne, Australia   (08.28.09)
Israel has uncovered it's ugly face especially after the Gaza war. Claiming Al Durra "is a hoax" is just stupid, there are real documentaries about the story and feel free to search the net.
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