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Aftonbladet editor slams Lieberman's 'vulgar propaganda'
Yael Levy
Published: 24.08.09, 15:44
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61. Unexpect serious backlash for Swedish Terrorist
meir elazar   (08.24.09)
It is totally amazing how this Swedish Editor has been transformed to a terrorist supporter and he obviously is oblivious to the ultimate damage that he may cause; but not to the Israelis but actually to the Palestinians that he intended to support. First of all one must put the incident into proper context. Palestinians have created the "Mohamad Dura" syndrome where they will stage and report anything that they think will promote their cause even if it is a total fabrication. Other examples are the fiction that Israelis and Jews did not show to work at WTC on 9/11, the beach incident, and countless others. Moreover, they will send exploit children, women, etc. to attempt to attack Israelis in border crossings, etc. Their objective is to attack Israelis and they don't care about the welfare of their own people. BACKLASH - TERRORIST IS COUNTER PRODUCTIVE! After the Park Hotel bombing in Netanya and Hebrew University Cafeteria bombing where Palestinian workers exploited their knowledge of the sites to plant bombs, Israeli companies began advertising that they no longer hired Palestinians. As Palestians terrorist began exploiting porous borders to send suicide bombers to Mike's Place, Sbarro, and countless buses, Israel began to put up roadblocks, border crossings, and the Fence. The terror attacks are down dramatically but the Palestinians have forced their separation and isolation from Israel and in the case of Gaza from Egypt and the world at large. Seeing that they could no longer successfully launch their previous style terror attack, they refocused on kidnapping and Qassam rockets. The kidnapping of Shalit resulted in devastation beyond their imagination with Operation Summer Rain and the Qassams resulted in even worse damage with Operation Cast Lead. Ironically Israeli still provides electicity, gas, and water to Gaza in addition to medical support. If this "organ harvesting" scam is taken seriously then the Palestinians run a very serious risk of losing any and all medical assistance from Israel. This follows exactly the same logic as the costing them their jobs as Israel was once the primary supplier of jobs to Palestinians since their economy is nowhere near that of Israel. They may now lose emergency and other medical services from Israel if the Israeli medical community is attacked by such maliscious fabricated claims. The scandal in New Jersey is one matter but the attempt to blame Israel, all Israelis, and all Jews for it along with Madoff and any other scandal is nothing short of anti-Semetism at its worst and will ultimately backfire for the Palestians as it always has.
62. They got it wrong again
Raouli ,   France   (08.24.09)
Libel usually takes place in Passover. The upcoming holidays will be New Year and Yom Kippur. Same as Palm Sunday hosanna, or my Friday cup of wine that turned into God’s blood or my yummy Shabbat Halla into God’s flesh. But wait there is more; He is not any God, he is the son of a virgin that had already a boyfriend. LOL
63. Mr Heilin wouild you acept my articles?
Sam ,   Nanuet   (08.24.09)
Since you accept articles without checking them out under the guise of freedom of speech can I submit an article saying that Palestinians kill Israeli Children and eat their liver. Will you print it and require the Palestinians to launch an investigation to disprove it?
64. #52 Hemsk: Are you for real?
Fredrik ,   Stockholm   (08.24.09)
Listen buddy, you are a disgrace. I am Swedish and a strong supporter of Israel. Neither me nor the good friends of Israel that I know - and they are many - are Muslim haters or right-wing Christians. Now, let's talk about the Hamas-fans like yourselves. You are not only sympathetic to the neo-fascist Islamist ideology, but also anti-Jewish. You are a vocal but small hard-left group that most Swedes refer to as "kompostvänstern" (from the name of the worm-permeated mud you get when you recycle your household waste in the garden). 99 % of the Swedes have realized that you represent a dead ideology of hatred, and that you are now allied with the Nazis of the 21st century, i.e. the Islamist fascists. Hell, even moderate Muslims are disgusted by you and your new Islamofascist allies. So please don't try to make it out as though we are the minority and you the majority. You are deluding yourself and trying to negate the fact that the pseudo-communist party in Sweden (V) is even risking to fal out of Parliament in next year's elections. Loser.
65. Jan Helin defended Norwegian Nazi on TV
Henrik Lindh ,   Malmö, Sweden   (08.24.09)
DEFENDED NORWEGIAN NAZI In this evenings newscast in Sweden, Jan Helin blasted Israel for also criticizing Norways celebration of a pro-Nazi author. He said "Look, now they are attacking Norway too!". In essence, Helin doesn't think it's controversial to be celebrating a Nazi. FORWARDED UNFOUNDED RUMOURS Regarding the Aftonbladet article, it's a word-by-word (!) rehashing of the article writer's 2001 pamphlet "Inshallah" (financed by the then Social-democratic party), so there is NOTHING new in the article itself. The only addition that was made was the phony linkage to the New Jersey organ trade affair. Helin failed to mention in the news show tonight that the Jew Jersey affair had NO connection to the 17-year old Palestinian accusations, as the New Jersey affair involved an ISRAELI (living) donor who was flewn to the US (no Palestinians)! Also, Jan Helin believes that Israel is guily until proven innocent, and that he doesn't need proof to accuse. Israel should just respond to unfounded rumours. This is how idiotic this guy is. He just doesn't get it, and he keeps on lying his readership and the whole country in the face each time he goes on TV about this story, and in every new article he writes about it, while posing as an innocent victim of the Israeli "propaganda machine" (another of Aftonbladet's projections of its own actions onto Israel). He is a hardened propagandist and a liar, and he should DEFINITELY be sued! Morons like him are the real threat to democracy in Sweden.
66. Have you read it?
Sören ,   Uppsala, Sweden   (08.24.09)
All this hatred... Have many here has accually read the article? It basically sais, this is an accuse from a palestinian family, and they wrote it because of in ivestigation in USA. Noone has said its true or not. And another article just like this about China some month ago was published in Aftonbladet and the reaction from China was... none. You can call us swedes whatever you like but most us are just laughing at the ignorance of israelis and your opinions about this one article you havnt even read. You are just listening to your political leaders and trust them. Think again, make your own descition. Then you would understand why this isnt a big news in Sweden. But you had no idea about that, right?
67. #40 I would agree with you if ....
Sören ,   Uppsala, Sweden   (08.24.09)
They published reports on Muslim atrocities, the way the Chinese treat the Uighur people, the rapes in Darfur and so on. No, it is mainly the Jews and Israel and our treatment of the Palestinians. ------- They have done that of course. Have you read Aftonbladet. I read it every day and its a good paper that sometimes have garbage in it. Probobly like any other major newspaper. But its true that most swedes are anti-israel. The reason for this is that most of us has alot of palestinian friends that has told us there stories about the way they where treated by Israel. I think its strange with Israel in the middle east but then again, the war has gone on for over 1000 years. Maybee its time to move on and stop crying. Be friends with the palestinians and this problem would just go away. And perhaps I would go on vacation to Israel and not Turkey. But right now, Turkey feels like a safer place than Israel.
68. NO NEED TO HEED THE SWEDE
LAWRENCE RAP ARTISTE ,   Safed Israel   (08.24.09)
It just aint wise to spread those lies so I advise to apologise,we aint got no love for one another cos you're just a lowdown mother ,it is never too late to spread the hate and take the bait no need to wait ,my idea which is somewhat queer is to drink some beer then boycott IKEA.Your excuses sound lame you just want the fame but two can play the blame game ,You have no shame so don't expect my heart to bleed for this sorry swede and those of his creed of his ilk with words like silk who need to milk the story for their perceived glory ..
69. MORE RAP FROM ME
LAWRENCE RAP ARTISTE ,   Safed Israel   (08.24.09)
This man named Helin ,these lies he's yellin ,this man from Lapland is talking crapland talking of crap this Helin is smellin' like crap..
70. FEEL THE LURVE (LOVE)
LAWRENCE RAPPER ,   Safed Israel   (08.24.09)
I don't feel no lurve ,what a nerve from the swedish hors d'oeuvre .What do you gain from causing pain why don't you refrain with your absolut grain.You can shoot and toot the hoot with your ill-gained loot and vodka absolut.Stop your attacks with your grinding axe and just relax with your gravad lax that's all you lacks..I never was renowned for my tacts.
71. Social Dem = National Socialist accord
Rita   (08.24.09)
to one Swed . Politically correct version of Nat. Socialists
72. israel a nation with no ethics
wael ,   beirut, lebanon   (08.25.09)
no wonder they do that, those who kill thousands of children with no mercy will show no respect for any human right. thank you for the swedish newspaper for showing the truth, and of course israeili government will yell over like old women everytime somebody try to criticize their country, but the feeling of guilt toward jews is no longer working with europeans and the truth will be revealed no matter what they do!
73. #40 David
Daniel ,   London   (08.25.09)
Sweden routinely publishes articles on human rights abuses in all parts of the world. Muslim 'honour crime' is much bigger than Israel in that respect. Many Swedes feel, with Obama and most of the rest of the world, that Israel should freeze its settlements. Then we have 'sensational stories' like these. To be expected from the tabloids. Jan Eliasson, the former Swedsh FM and President of the UN General Assembly is the UN's special envoy to Darfur. Believe me, that gets press too. Get you facts right. Like AB should..
74. Helin
Elena ,   Melbourne   (08.25.09)
I wonder is there any way to send e-mail to the Aftonbladet editer to let him know what people think about him directly
75. Fredrik, straw man much ?
Hemsk ,   Sweden   (08.25.09)
Now, let's talk about the Hamas-fans like yourselves. You are not only sympathetic to the neo-fascist Islamist ideology [mindless rant removed] Dude, you are wrong in so many ways. When you have finished with your straw man argument errors then come back. Now go to bed, it is way past your bedtime.
76. Oh Fredrik, you tool
Eskil ,   Sverige   (08.25.09)
(Neither me nor the good friends of Israel that I know - and they are many - are Muslim haters or right-wing Christians.) So you hang out with many goy friends of Israel do you ? Funny, where do such people congregate in Sweden, in a church perhaps ? Or just at your local Sverigedemokrat meetings ? Interesting choice of words by the way " right wing christians", I take it you are "just" a christian then ? This means that you are nothing but an anomaly. Thanks for proving Hemsks point. The only non-jewish people that support Israel in Europe are either fascists or christian nuts.
77. #72 Wale, Lebanon treats Palestinians like flies
Linda ,   Paris, France   (08.25.09)
Are you kidding me? You Lebanese Arabs treat Palestinian Arabs like dirt: they are not allowed to live outside the camps you have installed for them, they cannot take a job of their free will, they cannot get citizenship etc etc. And not so long ago, your army razed the Palestinian slum called Nahr al-Bared, making 40 000 Palestinians homeless. So please don't give us your crap. The Arab world collaborated with the Nazis, and you are just as guilty as the Axis countries were.
78. Aftonbladet
Jakob ,   Sweden   (08.25.09)
The usual level of journalism of Aftonbladet surmounts to "who got a new boob-job" or "what celebrity was caught on picture without panties". They do have a half-decent sport section and i would trust them to get the score of a football game right, but that is about as far as their credibility goes. The journalism of Aftonbladet is an embarrassment and their reports on Israel is most often very biased. Aftonbladet is connected to the social democratic party and it would be very convenient for the sitting government to take a potshot at that tabloid. The reason that our government refrain from condemning this article is not because they harbors antisemitism or are afraid of muslim reactions. Claiming that is preposterous. Most Swedish people are pretty rational and level-headed and they certainly doesn't believe all the tripe Aftonbladet prints.
79. #76 Eskil
Cynthia ,   USA   (08.25.09)
"The only non-jewish people that support Israel in Europe are either fascists or christian nuts." Based on the majority of comments from Europe, Israel has positive support from Sweden and Europe. Your survey is flawed. Seems people are fed-up with the garbage generated by the likes of Helin and Aftonbladet. Perhaps you and Hemsk need to get out more. I also know many Swedes in the US who love Israel. They're neither fascists or Christian nuts.
80. Aftonbladet's Plaestinian lies
Yonathan Maghall ,   Ariel , Israel   (08.25.09)
Dear Soren, True, we do not speak Swedish but the contents of your newspaper were translated correctly. You do not know the Palestinians, neither Arabs. We know them very well. Lie is their basic philosophy. It is a shame for Swedish journalism to publicize such an unbased slander - another of the 1001 lies of the Palestinians , whithout checkin it out. Does Aftonbladet want to overtake "Der Sturmer" of Goebbels ? It looks like that. And I do not care that about communist China's reaction.They, and the Palestinian criminals are the same breed. Yours truly,Yonathan Maghall, Ariel, Israel
81. #79
Jan ,   Sweden   (08.25.09)
"Based on the majority of comments from Europe, Israel has positive support" I think you need to count again. " I also know many Swedes in the US who love Israel." How many is many ? Two ? "They're neither fascists or Christian nuts." Play with words all you like. In secular europe, christian = nut . Why do you think an average Swede would feel positively about Israel unless they had religious or political reasons to do so ? Are Israelis overly interested in countries many thousand miles away ?
82. #81 Are you an average Swede?
Cynthia ,   USA   (08.26.09)
I hope not. For a country that prides itself on independent thinking, you display a small town mentality where labels and stereotypes direct your thought. Yes, I have met many Swedes who love Israel and many Israelis who love Sweden. Israel is a great country which is obviously beyond your scope of appreciation. Perhaps you should visit Israel and get to know the people and the country first hand as opposed to the lies fed to you by the likes of Jan Helin and his birdcage liner Aftonbladet.
83. #82
Jan ,   sweden   (08.26.09)
" you display a small town mentality " And you display a small-almost-first-world-nation-constantly-at-war-bunker-mentality-we-are-jehovas-chosen-people mentality. Who gets the most points ? " Yes, I have met many Swedes who love Israel" Funny. I've hardly met any Swedes that love Belgium, Uruguay or Israel or any other tiny, mostly irrelevant place. People rarely LOVE other countrys unless they have a chauvinist or religious affection for the place. "Israel is a great country" No, it is quite small actually. "Perhaps you should visit Israel and get to know the people and the country first hand" No, I make a choice as to which countries I offer my money to. But don't be jealous, I don't grace Thailand or Indonesia with my presence either. And when France bombed Polynesia and New Zealand, i stopped buying French wine. As for Israeli friends, yes, I do have those, and they are fabulous. My Israeli friends live in Europe though, since they seem to loathe Israeli politics. Quite a common thing among many young Israelis it seems.
84. #83 Jan
Cynthia ,   USA   (08.27.09)
Jealous of you? Are you kidding! I feel like I'm communicating with a 12year old. Your Israeli friends probably realize you're a total reactionary and keep their true feelings to themselves. Criticizing their government is a national pastime for most Israelis and people in general are outspoken. And since you stopped buying the French wine, you might want to try the Israeli wines which are getting high marks for quality. I won't tell.
85. #84
Jan ,   Värnamo, Sweden   (08.27.09)
" I feel like I'm communicating with a 12year old." I feel like I'm communicating with a 6-year old, on crack. What is your point ? "Criticizing their government is a national pastime for most Israelis" And ? "And since you stopped buying the French wine, you might want to try the Israeli wines" Well, now that you stopped supplying the former apartheid state of South Africa with nukes, I might consider it. As long as you let go of the occupied territories first. I still want to know why a bunch of non-religious, non fascist Swedes, would go around LOVING (your words) extreme right wing, extremely religious and remote tiny country. What's the point ?
86. Simple question for our zionist posters in the USA
Jan ,   Sweden   (08.27.09)
Most of the world's holocaust denial websites are hosted, probably even written, from the USA. Now holocaust denial is something that is forbidden in Sweden and does lead to prison. My simple question is: Should the U.S. government condemn these websites ? Should they outlaw them ? A simple YES / NO response will suffice.
87. Blood libel revisited
Paardestaart ,   A'dam, Netherlands   (08.27.09)
What an utterly detestable comment of this editor..How cowardly and evasive can a person be and actually keep his job?! And the lame shots at the ever-available rightists..! Have you no self respect? A decent person - whether he be an apparently ignorant and vile reporter, or his even more clueless superior - would practice a little restraint in commenting on the plight of the israeli's, now and in the past. To evade the matter and pretending that digging up a disgusting story like this is at most a bit careless, is criminal and malevolent. No moralist cheaply critizing other people in dire circumstances should get away with this whole flock of smelly canards. Shame on you both, and shame on Aftonbladet..
88. TO LINDA FRANCE
wael ,   beirut. lebanon   (08.28.09)
my dear linda, first of all i'm not talking in the name of lebanon, im expressing my own point of view, so do'nt give me the "your government" crap cos i am proudly on the opposition side (which includes hezbaballah) so are more than 50% of the lebanese. so i was totally against what happened in al bared (which was supported by the USA) and i am with total human rights for palestenians in and outside lebanon. so if u wanna be logical and fair you should ask your aggressive israeli friends why did they kick those palestenians out at the first place? and lebanese can barely find jobs, so what to do with almost a million palestenian in lebanon ( we are 4 million) should we give them IDs and maybe nationality so that israel will be happy, NO! i am with giving them every human right but still their number one right is to go back to their country, yes, THEIR country, palestine! and you people yelling over against that poor journalist who did his job, look at yourselves, look at your government, every 2 years a war killing hundreds of children! so stealing human organs from poor palestenians is nothing compared to what you do! what a shame!
89. Aftonbladet
Steve Kronengold ,   Rehovot, Israel   (08.31.09)
The Aftonbladet article about alleged organ harvesting by Israeli soldiers was presented as a factual expose, not an editorial opinion. Indeed, the article is based on fact -- either it happened or it did not . By his own admission, Mr. Helin did not substantiuate the alleged "facts". He stated: "It may not prove anything factual, but the claims remain and this is why we published the story." The bottom line is that Aftonbladet published a baseless "factual expose" about alleged organ harvesting by Israeli soldiers. By any western legal standard, this malicous or grossly negligent conduct constitutes actionable defamation and libel. Had the correspondent published an editorial in which he wrote "I hate Jews" or "I think Israeli soldiers are devils", that would be opinion rather than thinly veiled hate mongering paraded as a factual expose,
90. Replt to #86
Steve Kronengold ,   Rehovot, Israel   (08.31.09)
No, unless the denial is published with defamatory "factual" support for the denial. I I were to deny that Raoul Wallenberg was a hero who saved many Jewish lives, I would appear very stupid but my opinion would not constitute actionable defamation. If, on the other hand, I were to publish a purported "factual expose" about Jewsdrinking the blood of young Swedish children. that would be defamatory and actionable.
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