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Palestinians stealing water in West Bank
Shmulik Grossman
Published: 25.06.10, 08:43
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31. who steals whom?
asoosi ,   muthslath-al-shuhada   (06.25.10)
water has been stolen for ages from pals's well? noone spoke a words, and now when isreali Mekorot comany cuts supply on paletinian people, the took this mean. and now they are stealing?
32. Israeli Guilt
Swaminathan ,   Kerala, India   (06.25.10)
Surprised to note that only a few talkbackers from the settlers' camp responded to this article about Palestinians 'stealing' water in West Bank. It is a clear admission of their own guilt. They know in their own hearts that it is they who steal from the Palestinians. Israelis, please give back the occupied lands to the Palestinians. Stop stealing using the name of your G-d. Anyone who steals cannot claim to be a child of G-d.
33. #1 - It doesn't come from the West bank, idiot.
William ,   Israel   (06.25.10)
It's pumped into the West Bank bases and communities from the National Water supplier which gets its water from a coastal aquifer and the Kinneret. If the "Pals" want water, let them drop the wells. The PA has permission for over 300 wells, they only dropped 60+ in the past 5 years. It's a shortage of their own making.
34. #2 - please explain how to steal water from Syria, Lebanon
William ,   Israel   (06.25.10)
Did the Israelis make a really long pipe and stick it in a Syrian reservoir from way inside Israel? No. Stealing water from Gaza?? They have no water to steal. The Arabs ruined their aquifer long ago because they over-pumped it, even though Israel warned them not to. Any water Gush Katif settlements used was replaced 1:1 by the Mekorot water company. The "Palestinians" have plenty of water but its easier to steal from someone else than to actually make the effort and drill their own wells. Why? They have plenty of global aid money.
35. #13 - Let the "Pals" drill into the aquifer
William ,   Israel   (06.25.10)
what they're stealing is clean, treated water from a central pipe. If they want water, let them drop their own pipes. BTW - the aquifer is not under the West Bank, it spans the entire area out to the coast line (i.e. Israel)
36. #16 - prior to 1967, no paved roads, no public water system
William ,   Israel   (06.25.10)
That's the truth. Same with Gaza which didn't have any infrastructure in it until Israel began building in 1967. Israel also brought roads and schools into the Sinai between 1967-1977 From the sounds of it - the "Palestinians" WANT to come to the 21st century...they just want Jews to do all the work, and the global community to pay for it.
37. To #30. What Chutzpah!!
(06.25.10)
Glad to have obliged. Our aim is to please.
38. #25 - you started it in 1920...and lost
William ,   Israel   (06.25.10)
you had the chance several times for peace and to return, you chose aggression and genocide. You had the chance against for peace and Statehood with one of the fastest growing economies in the world. You gave it up to follow your terrorist mentality. You again can have it simply by accepting Israel as your neighbor and ending your war. But your racist hatred is stronger than your desire for a"happy simple life". Go back to your simple lives - use 19th century weapons or just farm and stop your terrorism. Short answer - you, not Israel, is the reason for your own demise.
39. #26 - If you knew anything, you'd know PA has the approvals
William ,   Israel   (06.25.10)
The Civil Administration has already approved infrastructure projects and the drilling of 360+ wells in the West Bank of which the PA only dropped 60+. This has been the case for over 5 years and the PA has been dragging their feet. In addition, you should know that per Oslo Accords, Israel promised lots of water to Gaza but their infrastructure needs upgrading to receive the additional water. Not since 1995 have the Arabs tried to upgrade the system, and most piping is now stolen by Hamas to be fashioned into rockets. It's apparent your mind was already made up per Sarah B before you dod any research beyond your own Leftist inner circle.
40. Stealing is a way of life in Israel, houses, land, gas Ext..
Misha   (06.25.10)
accusing Palestinian of stealing their own water in their land is absolutely stuning!!! Zionist have no shame left, the world will never forget what you guys are doing to you Palestinian victims. Go back to Khazaria, there is plenty of water and let the Palestinian live free in the land of their ancestors. Miaw
41. ALL of Judea and Samaria is Jewish Holy Land
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (06.25.10)
There Never was an Arab country of Palestine. Jerusalem was Never the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in the Jewish Bible, not once in the Koran. The inalienable rights of Jews to the Biblical heartland must not be violated! No one is demanding Muslims surrender THEIR top religious areas of Mecca and Medina! In 1948, Egypt invaded Gaza, ethnically cleansing all Jews and in 1948, Jordan invaded Judea, Samaria and east Jerusalem, ethnically cleansing all Jews. In violent opposition to G-D, Muslim Jordan destroyed 58 synagogues in Jerusalem. The jihad is against the Holy One. When Israel won the Arab war of aggression in 1967, Jews returned to the areas of their ancestral homeland they had been ethnically cleansed from for 19 years. Anti-Israel propaganda deceitfully calls Jews' legitimate return "occupation". Jews have had a continuous presence in physical and spiritual homeland Israel for 4,000 years. All Land and Property Stolen from Jews in the 1948 Islamic Invasion Must be Returned!
42. Before 1948 Jews were Known as the Palestinians
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (06.25.10)
Arabs first started calling themselves "Palestinians" in 1967. Global terrorist, Egyptian Arafat was the first leader of this new people. Partner with Arafat for over 40 years; immorally respected by the US/EU-Holocaust denier, Abbas, financed the massacre of Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympic Games. Before 1948, Jews were known as the Palestinians. The Jewish newspaper, the Jerusalem Post was called the Palestine Post. The Jewish-founded electric company was Palestine Electric. The Palestinian Symphony Orchestra was all Jewish. During World War II, the British army had a Palestinian Brigade made up entirely of Jewish volunteers. After Jews migrated to Palestine in significant numbers in the late 1800s and miraculously transformed desert and swamps into rich, agricultural land, Arabs came in large numbers from Arab countries for jobs from Jews. The fact that the overwhelming majority of Arabs resided only briefly in Palestine is attested to by a one-time special UN decree: that any Arab who had resided in Palestine for only two years before 1948, and then left, would be considered a refugee and so would his descendants! Throughout history, people were never regarded as refugees if they had resided in a country for only two years because they were clearly citizens of other countries!
43. #28 - I support her! Because she's always factual
William ,   Israel   (06.25.10)
and yes, facts ALWAYS the in the way of those with a set agenda, like the anti-Israel (notice I didn't say pro-Palestinian) and Leftists. Sarah B is one of the few people posting here that presents facts on many issues and she'd been dead on. Perhaps you should relegate yourself from the knee-jerk racist reactions you have and actually research her claims. Again, facts get in the way of you retards, just like actual court rulings and land deeds get in the way of Leftist demands to keep Sheik Jarrah 100% Arab (which was only the case AFTER 1948)
44. #31 - despite drought, "Pals" still receive 40% more
William ,   Israel   (06.25.10)
than was promised in the Oslo Accords, along with the water promised to Jordan as part of the peace agreement. Only some "Palestinian" villages are on the Israeli water supply because they SHOULD have had a State by now and could have done it themselves, except for that little terrorist war that they all admitted was a complete failure. Never too late to drill the wells they have the permission and the money to do. Start now!
45. #32 - or a clear admission of your own ignorance
William ,   Israel   (06.25.10)
How many settlers have posted here on other articles over the months? Settlers by and large do not read Ynet. They read other papers or watch TV. I'm curious - when will India end their caste system which damns millions of people to servitude simply because of the family they're born into?
46. How Can Palestinians Steal What Belongs To Them
World Citizen ,   the world   (06.25.10)
Israelis are an occupation force in the West Bank. By the rules of the 4th Geneva Convention you can't take their natural resources for your illegal settlements and military bases without compensation. Israelis are the thieves in this story.
47. #38 what "started" 1920? "Aliyah"? (END)
Albrecht ,   P.O.   (06.25.10)
48. To: No. 16
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (06.25.10)
Let me tell you a little bit about the West Bank that Israel acquired in 1967. Only 30% of the homes had indoor plumbing. Roughly the same percentage had electricity. There were no good roads. There was one hospital. There were no universities. There were no waste disposal facilities -- raw sewage ran in the streets, which resulted in chronic outbreaks of cholera. The infant mortality rate was among the highest in the world. Israel fixed all that, and more. They made available well-paying jobs in Israel for anyone who wanted one. West Bankers found work readily in the construction trades, and as automobile mechanics and electricians. By 1970, the standard of living of West Bank Arabs had tripled. Israel brought modern irrigation techniques to the West Bank. Israel built an infrastructure in the West Bank. Israel built medical clinics and hospitals. Israel built schools, and universities. At the time when the Palestine Authority assumed control of much of the West Bank, it was a thriving, bustling place. You should see it now. No infrastructure. Rising unemployment. Rampant inflation. Depressed economy. Roads crumbling because they are not being maintained. Medical clinics closed. This despite the over 200 billion dollars and 200 billion euros that have poured into the coffers of the Palestine Authority since 1989. Money which was intended to attract Western investment and joint venture capital; money which was intended to improve the lives of the Palestinians has instead gone to build increasingly lavish second and third homes in Europe and pad already hefty offshore bank accounts of the Palestine Authority so-called "leadership." It is the Palestine Authority that is to blame for the tragic decline of the areas it controls. No, I do not work for BP.
49. I see that our resident racists are ranting again
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (06.25.10)
All the land west of the Jordan River belongs to the Jews. That is international law. All these claims of 'Palestinian lands' are back by nothing more than lies. The Arabs have absolutely not one single legal claim to any of the land. And the loud mouth racists here are too stupid and afraid to challenge that statement with a single fact. The National Water Carrier gets water from Kinneret not Judea and Samaria. So yes regardless of the claims this is Israeli water that the thieving Arabs are tapping into. I think they should follow the lines back to the user and destroy the swimming pools and buildings that are illegally stealing our water.
50. #43 William
Daniel Wess ,   Israel   (06.25.10)
I note with interest that you do not deny that she is a arrogance racist filled with hate. All you are saying is that you support this arrogance and hateful racist because she is factual! And as for factual she is hardly factual in post 48. she says Israel acquired the West Bank when it only occupied it. She uses the word Acquired to imply ownership which is totally dishonest as Israel has no recognized ownership over the West Bank
51. #40 - making up mythical narratives is way of life in Arabia
William ,   Israel   (06.25.10)
"Go back to Khazaria" Sorry to bust your bubble. That Arab lie was proven wrong a long time ago, and again with a new DNA study. http://www.genomeweb.com//node/942224?hq_e=el&hq_m=734398&hq_l=1&hq_v=4d8452185e And for the "Pal ancestors" narrative, look at Turkish land records that showed only 5% of land in private hands (of which Jews paid for 100% of their's) and British records citing mass illegal economic Arab migrants in the 1930s. During a British census, they cited 20 different languages spoken among the Arabs in Palestine. Not bad for being "natives", huh? Jews have land deeds for their land (prior to the Arab-started genocide war) while Arabs only have rusty keys. Which one will hold up in court, Misha?
52. #46 - WB is not occupied, it is disputed
William ,   Israel   (06.25.10)
There is no sovereignty over the West Bank by Arabs or the "Palestinians". It was ruled by the Ottomans, then by the Brits, but never by the "Palestinians". The Jordanians took it and illegally annexed it, but gave up any rights to it leaving it back in the hands of the only sovereign nation with a claim...Israel. Most of the water used in settlements and bases is piped in from Israel using Mekorot, not the local supply, essentially destroying your claim altogether. Let the "Pals" drill their own wells instead of stealing the efforts from other people.
53. #47 - Arab racist attacks on Jews began in 1920
William ,   Israel   (06.25.10)
just after the fall of the Ottoman empire. These attacks were part of a Muslim Brotherhood Arab nationalism call, led by the Grand Mufti Al-Husseini in this region. Arabs attacked and massacred hundreds of Jews, many who were their long-time neighbors back in the Ottoman times. But one thing is important to note on your myopic sarcastic comment regarding "aliyah"...Jews began migrating in the region to join their brethren well before Arabs began migrating into the region for work.
54. #50 - Daniel, take of the prism glasses, bud
William ,   Israel   (06.25.10)
I do address your claims that Sarah is arrogant or racist because I think your accusation is simply hate-filled itself. I believe strongly your accusation, as those from the Left often do, is in response to meeting someone who doesn't agree with you. The Left is known for jumping to the "racist" accusation on anyone who disagrees with their pre-set agenda, even when facts support their position. That being said - Sarah is correct again regarding the West Bank in post#48 - that is, if you leave the context in there (which you seem to erase each time to match your agenda). Israel did acquire the West Bank - once through a defensive war in 1967 after years of cross-border terrorist attacks on Israeli civilians, and legally when Jordan ended any claims on the land which it illegally annexed in 1948 in the first place. Israel, as a sovereign nation, has more recognized ownership over the West Bank than do the Arab residents there who were never a sovereign entity - that's per Intl law, not public opinion I mind you.
55. #54 William are you for real!!
Daniel Wess ,   Israel   (06.25.10)
"The Left is known for jumping to the "racist" accusation on anyone who disagrees with their pre-set agenda" LOL! It is so funny you said that when the right wing Jews and Israelis are NOTORIOUS for call ANYONE who disagrees with their zionist beliefs "Racist" and "Antisemitic". You really crack me up!! here is another classic from you... "Israel, as a sovereign nation, has more recognized ownership over the West Bank than do the Arab residents". LOL! William if this was the case WHY does NOBODY, including most Israelis, not recognize Israeli ownership over the West bank? Tell me William just WHO recognizes Israeli ownership over the West bank? You can’t even get your story straight, in post 52 you claim the West bank is “disputed” land! WHO disputes this? William you are really a joke!
56. Misha #40 on Israel stealing everything
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (06.25.10)
You should file a police report because it appears they stole your brain too. You've been ripped off by somebody.
57. palestinians stealing their own water????
pinar hasan ,   usa   (06.25.10)
palestinians stealing their own water???? Do you jews really believe all the garbage you spin, Wait till Turkey bombs Tel Aviv.
58. Pinar # 57
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (06.26.10)
Turkey bomb Tel Aviv? And you think the Jews spin garbage.
59. #55- Carter proves my point
William ,   Israel   (06.26.10)
His reaction to those who were against Obama's healthcare reform plan was to label them and their intentions as "racist". That's just one and many fine examples that support my claim. Daniel - public opinion does not count. It holds no equal footing as a court of law. In referring to the case regarding claim on the West Bank, I speak solely from the point of legal ownership where lands transfer between sovereign nations upon agreement or acts of war. The land of "Palestine" was never sovereign and Arab residents were never sovereign rulers. That being said - your claim that Arab residents in WB have full ownership rights (even though most are proven to be family of illegal economic migrant squatters) should be seen in precedent. The Kurds who are residents and did have a history of autonomy in their land had their land carved up and handed to other sovereign nations. Who disputes the WB? Both Israel and the "Palestinians" of which point the UN has passed resolution 242 stating in strong terms that there is NO occupation, just land that is disputed. The UN authors repeated this point in public several times after 1967 because the Arabs kept screwing up the meaning of their words. Apparently, you should have spent more time cracking the books instead of writing TBs. I didn't realize there were bad schools in Israel.
60. #57 - bomb TA. With what, hoummous and bad movies?
William ,   Israel   (06.26.10)
go back to your tent, camel herder. The least you could do for humanity was to actually read the article and understand it, rather than join the knee-jerkers who can't figure out the water in the pipes come from within Israel.
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