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Chief scientist who questioned evolution theory fired
Tomer Velmer
Published: 04.10.10, 22:31
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1. So he was fired for expressing the truth?
blash ,   Jerusalem   (10.04.10)
There is a lot of tampered evidence and questionable conclusions from global warming theorists. The fact that, for example, many American cities have experienced record snowfalls is what has lead to global warming to be redefined in some audiences as "climate change". It's a load of bunk especially when you see research showing that the hole in the ozone layer is closing itself up naturally. Evolution is similarly against the Torah and against common sense. There have been many refutations of evolution by people who quote not Biblical sources but scientific ones. Seems to me like the Education Ministry is run by Labor/Meretz.
2. I DON'T BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION BUT
LAWRENCE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (10.04.10)
Israeli leaders make me think again .
3. Rightttt....
Mark ,   Canada   (10.04.10)
Let's giving equal billing under educational schemes to a theory with absolutely no empirical evidence (creationism) to one with overwhelming evidence that has been routinely scrutinized in peer-reviewed studies (evolution). Because after all, children would be able to ascertain which is more scientifically founded, not us adults....these sorts of irrational people should not be determining educational curriculum as, eventually, we will be indoctrinating the children with all this fodder instead of the inherent scientific truths.
4. scientist dismissed-notPC enough
moron ,   galut   (10.04.10)
more self-inflicted wounds from israel's progressive secular elites
5. Welcome to the zio-world ,...
split ,   USA   (10.04.10)
6. He is right in one thing.
Eran ,   Singapore   (10.04.10)
Global warming is a hoax.
7. Judaism does not require a literal interpretation of Genesis
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (10.04.10)
Literal creationism is a Christian interpretation. Kabbalistic and rabbinical interpretations from previous centuries are not incompatible with Darwin and current scientific teaching. Read Natan Slifkin's "The Challenge of Creation"
8. MUST NOT THINK DIFFERENTLY
JOE STALIN ,   HELL   (10.04.10)
Dangerous to think differently from the Tel-aviv elite who deny G-d and live in a bubble.
9. ORWELL AND DARWIN
THOUGHT POLICE ,   MIND CONTROL   (10.04.10)
You will think what I tell you to think and teach what I tell you to teach .DO NOT QUESTION. Israel should be ashamed of itself .
10. EVOLUTION AND FACT
LAWRENCE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (10.04.10)
According to some so called "academics" a chimpanzee has 98 % similar genes to humans .I am 98% similar to a millionaire but.....alas, sometimes 2% makes a hell of a difference.
11. What about academic freedom?
Avi Steinson ,   Tel Aviv   (10.04.10)
If he called for an academic boycott of Israeli universities, he'd be promoted
12. 6
Rosie   (10.05.10)
Exactly.
13. resh lokish says tractate avodah zoro 3b
avrom ,   bet shemesh   (10.05.10)
"in the future there will be no hell but Hashem will take the sun out of its sheath and it will punish the wicked"[spontaneous human combustionof the left wing loonies ans anti israel brigade ]and the righteous will be healed in its wings and quotes Malachi ch 3 v19 to v23 The explanation is that the world will go from physical cause and effec[ newtonian physics ] to a mode of spiritual cause and effect [quantum mechanics on a macro scale ] and the righteous will be able to teleport themselves and that is the meaning of healing in its wings.My conclusion is that climate change is natural and caused by solar changes
14. Right...
DM   (10.05.10)
I'm usually the first one to tear into the leftist, but in this case... anyone who doesn't believe in evolution should stay the hell away from anything that has something to do with science, that's all I have to say on the matter.
15. THE ISRAELI BOLSHEVIKS STRIKE AGAIN
Frederic   (10.05.10)
we support Gavriel Avital against leftist terrorism
16. #1 Blash do you belive in the tooth fairy as well
Avi ,   Israel   (10.05.10)
or how about the trolls under the bridge?
17. #6
R ,   Israel   (10.05.10)
Please provide some evidence to back up your statement.
18. Dogmatic Extremist Personas R Most Dangerous Group of People
Jae ,   Lynn US   (10.05.10)
in the World! You can be leftist meretz women in black atheist secular self hating Jew, and you can be more dogmatic on your extreme positions than most religious people of the world. Aint that the Truth?!
19. blash#1 Avital is right
Mickey ,   Sydney Australia   (10.05.10)
Avital is right, there is no scientifically proved connection between global warming and human activity/intervention. It has never been scientifically proven that climate change is the result of carbon-dioxide emissions. All that scientists have done is some computer modelling which allows them to factor in elements of their choice. However much global warming has happened before when human intervention did not or could not have made any contribution. Avital's dismissal is a traversty and an attempt to stifle free speech and free thought.
20. A scientist who rejects science
Michael ,   NYC, USA   (10.05.10)
Evolution is one of the most strongly supported theories in science. There are literally tons of evidence for evolution. It's better understood than gravity. So why does Avital question evolution? Is it because it contradicts a 2,500 year old creation myth?
21. Excuse me, #7
Brad ,   USA   (10.05.10)
I think Judaism still believes in the 4th commandment, doesn't it? You know, the one about keeping the sabbath day holy. That commandment even gives the reason for itself. "For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it." That means the literal reading of Genesis is required in order to have a literal reading of the 4th commandment, in Exodus. Wait, don't tell me, Judaism does not require a literal reading of the 10 commandments either. Look, if you choose to be a non-believer, just be one and admit it. Don't go around re-writing what the Holy Spirit wrote, so you can feel better about yourself, and your evolutionism religion.
22. I got interrupted but I'm back
Brad ,   USA   (10.05.10)
I wanted to address the "environmentalists, and scholars" who called for Avital's dismissal. First, environmentalist, is a fancy word for loudmouth troublemaker, without a private sector job. And, if the "scholars" really were scholars, they would have been able to argue their points intelligently, and logically. But, instead of that, they went about to shut Avital up, because they know he is right, and that they, themselves, don't have a rational arguement. Sadly, it looks as though they got their way.
23. Green Evolution
BPearce ,   Fort Worth, USA   (10.05.10)
Galileo was critizied too for questioning the idea that world was flat.. All theories should be listened too and has the students debate them civily. Attack the problem, not the child....oh wow, i just realized that we are using intelligent design here...just like God
24. EVOLUTION IS COMMUNIST IDEOLOGY
AMERICAN ,   Los Angeles   (10.05.10)
Check Kent Hovind.videos on you tube.
25. Evolution is one thing. But global warming?
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, USA   (10.05.10)
Jews should have no problem with evolution. Rabbi Sampson Hirsch, founder of Germany's Modern Orthodoxy had no problem with it. And Kyle's pointer to Slifkin's "The Challenge of Creation" is noteworthy. Slifkin - aka the "Zoo Rabbi" - is both ultra-Orthodox and a naturalist, and his book is quite good. Creationism is not a scientific discipline is shouldn't be taught as one. But fired because he challenges global warming? Only the thought police could push such a course. "Settled science"? Hardly, and not just because science is NEVER "settled". There's not enough room here to point out all the flaws with AGW.
26. They have dinosaur fossils at the tip of Antarctica..
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (10.05.10)
They have Tyrannasaurus Footprints north of the Brooks Range in Alaska. The scientists don't believe the land masses were very far from their positions as of right now. This means that these climates were very warm and had fossils of palm trees which live in warm climates. If anything...we should be questioning whether the ice age was ever supposed to happen in the first place. New York City was covered by an ice sheet. The ice has been melting for thousands of years since the ice age occurred from meteors slamming into the Yucatan Penninsula. We all should be questioning the fact that ice should have ever been in the northern and southern hemisphere to begin with. They have a 125 million year old polar bear skull that they DNA sampled. Turns out it was originally a Brown Bear that learned to live on the ice sheets during the winters. Maybe the bear was never meant to be on the ice in the first place???? It just adapted to the new ice fields???? Carbon Dioxide is needed by plants to thrive. They use it and release oxygen. Without it...they would die. What happened to all the people who were saying the sky is falling in 1979? They were telling us a new ice age was about to occur because we were changing the ocean currents. The warm water wouldn't flow correctly....and an ice age would ensue. Where are those people now? Al Gore and his ilk should be ashamed of themselves for telling this urban legend to the masses.
27. Fire Evolution not this Scientist
Brod ,   USA   (10.05.10)
Evolution is nothing but a creation of Pagans like Darwin engineered by his god Lucifer in the 19th century. It has now become a Pagan religion. It is an attempt to do away with the GOD of Israel-the GOD of the Bible-the Creator of the Heavens and Universe. It is the work of the god of the dark forces.
28. Atheists should be outlawed and fired and forced to leave
Rivkah   (10.05.10)
Israel. Many people have been fired or blackballed from employment by questioning the global warming bogus science. Long ago, one named Ed Krug was fired and blackballed from a university because he was so effective at debating against global warming. His wife had to support him. Believe me, Yahweh observes such injustices and those in Yahweh's camp and family will be well rewarded in Yahweh's Kingdom for believing the Bible. Yahweh's people suffer in this life, but there is a resurrection and eternal life with Yahweh for those He reveals Himself to.
29. So much for free thought.
Eileen Laisman ,   Netanya, Israel   (10.05.10)
It's a real pity that those in power today believe the world is flat and no-one is allowed to believe anything else. Shame on the Minister of Education, who is no scientist, has no concept of free thought.
30. Climate change
Yehudi ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (10.05.10)
The North Pole ice cap is melting. It is 20% smaller than it it was 1979 according to published satellite images (See The Weather Makers by Tim Flannery, 2005). The temperatures of Pacific, Indian and Atlantic Oceans have risen significantly over the [past 20 years. This has resulted in a phenomenon known as the El-Nino Effect that is afflicting two-thirds of the globe with droughts, floods and other extreme weather. Climate change is an established scientific reality.
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