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Kahane supporters: We'll destroy 'Ishmael state'
Yair Altman
Published: 27.10.10, 00:28
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31. Racist Ashkenazim?
Israeli   (10.27.10)
First, the irony that you are making the false assumption that the racist far right is populated only by Ashkenazis- is racist in itself. Second, many of the far right, racists and violent settlers are made up of Mizrahi Jews. Third, what does it matter? pointing falsly at the ethnic composition of any group is an easy scapegoating mechanism to try to explain the situation and decide (falsely) who is right, who is wrong and who is to blame. Complex situations do not necessarily have black and white causes or answers.
32. Kahana
amazona ,   Beesheva Israel   (10.27.10)
y-net please note: Cach is not a 'radical' movement, it is an extremist, racist fringe movement. More accuracy in reporting please! As to last' night's orgy: shame on the Ramada and double shame on those who attended - how pathetic can they get!
33. Answer to Salma
JUDAH THE LION   (10.27.10)
When kids behave naughty,the parents can punish their children.In this case the ALMIGHTY gave this punishment.
34. #25 Israeli
Yossef ,   Toronto/Rehovot   (10.27.10)
I vote for your solution. Finally a rational and good idea, out of the box :-)
35. 12 Salma
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (10.27.10)
I agree with you!
36. 21 Salma (not 12)
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (10.27.10)
37. 26 C Israel = Charles, Petach Tikva
(10.27.10)
38. a great rabbi and great leader
Yossi Shomron ,   Nitzan, Israel   (10.27.10)
Thank you Ynet for not boycotting "anything to do with Rabbi Meir Kahane z'l, hy'd. He was a great rabbi and leader and is sorely missed in Israel today. Kol Hakavod to those who attended his memorial service.
39. Salma - where is Allah?
Moshe ,   Jerusalem Liberandi   (10.27.10)
In 1982 I proudly stood on 45th Street outside the PLO's office during Israel's holy incursion into South Lebanon and the so-called incident at Sabra & Shatilla as the Palestines screamed and cried. We Jews shouted "Where is Allah now!" So answer us where is your Allah after the "Nakba" and "Dir Yassin" and "Sabra" and "Gaza"? We control Jerusalem and you are running around knocking on doors & begging the world to fight your battles like cripples. The question is Where is your Allah? Has he completely forgotten you? Or maybe he does not exist? You Sunnis have the Shiites leading you around like impotent punks. Where is Mohammed?
40. To #6
Avi ,   Israel   (10.27.10)
Look, my dearest namesake, even writing pathetic nonsense requires some semblance of good spelling. Go away and study well.
41. To Moshe 39
JUDAH THE LION   (10.27.10)
allah is pagan god.Pagan god can do nothing.
42. 33 , Judah
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (10.27.10)
Yes , parents can punish , but why INNOCENT and well behaving children ? What have they done ?
43. To the fake # 35 , shame on you
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (10.27.10)
I did'nt write this , either is C. my name .
44. To moshe
saladdin ,   el quds   (10.27.10)
Moshe, At least Selma nor any other muslim in that matter considers himself the choosen poeple
45. to Judah the lion
saladdin ,   el quds   (10.27.10)
Aren't you afraid that the Mighty GOD can punish you again like he did in the past for what you are doing now
46. Fake 43 godless atheist is godless atheist!
(10.27.10)
47. #39 Moshe , We don't claim that we are God's chosen people.
Salma ,   Palestine   (10.27.10)
48. 42 Charles Petach Tikva
JUDAH THE LION   (10.27.10)
G D the ALMIGHTY works on misterious way.
49. #24 boker tov Yossef ,
Salma ,   Palestine   (10.27.10)
I wrote to you yesterday in response to your live invitation :) but Ynet did not publish my response, don't Know why !! any way, your TBs actually made me feel optimistic ; )
50. To 46 , I'm PROUD to be a 100 % Atheist Jew
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (10.27.10)
not a fake coward convert
51. #31Israeli
Yossef ,   Toronto/Rehovot   (10.27.10)
I remind you what happens with the school at Emanuel: 100.000 haredim from al over Israel demonstrated to support Ashkenazim refusing sephardi girls to mix with their children! Sadly, only 10.000 at most israeli demonstrated for Gilad Shalit few days after. And you know what ? When I saw all these jews at the TV I just said to myself "Are they even Jews ? They look like irish New-Yorker dressed as 18th century Poles" Yes I am fed up with this racism, and this racism against Sephardim is the same as the racism against Arabs. We Sephardim are mostly Arabs/Berbers. I don't say that there is no racists among Sephardim, but this is not that deep, it's a natural animosity between brothers, as related by the Torah: the metaphor Ishmael/Izchak. We Sephardim are used to live with Arabs, make business with them, marry their daughters, dress all alike, eating the same food... It makes a big difference. For Ashkenazim it is another planet, especially for the ones coming directly from New-York. Go and read the books about Jews in Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Yemen, Iraq, Lebanon etc... Compare a sephardi marriage and an arab marriage with an ashkenazi marriage. Our culture is mixed more than you believe. Teaching Ashkenazim coming from Middle Europe, heavy influenced by christianity, mixed with european population, to accept Sephardim and Arabs is the same fight. I am sorry if i am not politically correct but we cannot avoid this problem. I don't elaborate more, you know certainly what I am talking about. I am also fed up with all this hatred I see in this talkback Jews against Arabs and Arabs against Jews. The insults, the slogan. No one (or very few) to try to have a real debate, exchanging ideas, about "how to live together?". Most of the talbackers just vomit their ignorance and hatred. You talked about Salma (she is certainly not an angel) but she comes here and talk with us, she is not blowing herself in a cafeteria in Mamila, right ? So, let's take our chance to learn from her, hopping that she will learn from us. I stop here, too long already
52. #49 Boker To Salma
Yossef ,   Toronto/Rehovot   (10.27.10)
Don't know how to say "Boker tov" in arabic :( I'd love to read your response to my invitation :) I'm not desperate, We'll find a way to live together, I mean Jews and Arabs (not you and me :), here in this tiny peace of land north-west of the arabic peninsula.
53. Hey Salma
JUDAH THE LION   (10.27.10)
Sabah Alkhair, of course Islam not the chosen people.The chosen people are BNEI ISRAIL,(children of Israel) which are of course sre THE JEWS
54. It seems the best thing would be no palastinian nationality
Omri ,   Israel   (10.27.10)
But it exists now for too long to vanish... Anyway Palestinians will need to eventually get a country and hopefully that will conclude the Arab Israeli conflict, possibly make a new corporation. If a Palestinian state will rise then remember we will need to work together to reach our shared holy places and that isn't necessarily a bad thing. After radicals like Hamas are finally out an the palastinians can finaly learn to read the Koran normaly (not be told lies about it) the old muslim-jewish relation can finaly come back to life.
55. 48 Judah , that's not an answer
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (10.27.10)
almighty ? and you believe this ? You believe in those old tales ?
56. Yossef from Toronto
TAHRIR QUDS ALYAHUDI   (10.27.10)
May Hashem bless ZION,and the ASHKENAZIM, as they were the back bone of Israel.Without them the Jews still without country.I am not Ashkanazi but from an Arab country who was forced to flee the country with ====all. Sepharadi and Jews from Muslims countries have also contributed and fought for the STATE OF ISRAEL. AM ISRAEL HAI VAKAYAM
57. #52 Its "sabah al hir" (learned it in like 6th grade :)
Omri ,   Israel   (10.27.10)
58. #53 - Judah
Yossef ,   Toronto/Rehovot   (10.27.10)
Let's talk a little bit about the myth of the "chosen people". Rabanim agree to interpret that as "We are the people which chose to follow Hashem commandments". In this sense we are the "chosen people", not because we are smarter or nicer. At the contrary, Emanuel Levinas said : "The Jews got the Torah because it was the harsher people, the people who needed it the most". If you don't know Levinas : google it. You don't command people to breath because it is natural, people breath naturally without need to ask them. You ask people to don't murder because murdering is natural for them (or stealing or whatever). Think about, it makes the concept of "chosen people" a little bit more modest, Hu ? By the way, in the sephardim tradition, the Iom Shishi Bracha doesn't include the sentence "ki banu barcharta v otanu kidashta mi kol ha Amim" (sorry to write it in phonetics) contrarily to the Ashkenazim tradition. Go to Mea Shearim and compare the two Sidurim, you'll see. And think about. Don't be a moron, you deserve better.
59. #56 - TAHRIR QUDS ALYAHUDI
Yosef ,   Toronto/Rehovot   (10.27.10)
You are too inside, take more perspective. P.S. I am Israeli, now in Toronto for my job, I'm coming back soon :) don't mistake.
60. 55 Charles
JUDAH THE LION   (10.27.10)
no need to argue with Atheist Jew.One day he may return to his sense.
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