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Turkish document cites Israel as major threat
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Published: 30.10.10, 17:05
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31. #28 sorry for my ignorance.
noa ,   israel   (10.30.10)
Bulgaria saved all her Jews during the Holocaust. The Armenian people were almost totally destroyed by the Turks. I was thinking of that. It could be Turkey provoked the responses it got. But then I am ignorant. I do know that Israel was and is constantly provoked by all the surrounding Arab countries, and I do believe that a nation of Holocaust survivors would have preferred peace to war.
32. GO ANKARA GO : )
Salma ,   Palestine   (10.30.10)
33. Turkey a threat to NATO
Sami ,   New York, USA   (10.30.10)
Turkey is a threat to NATO.
34. Erdogan , PM of Turkey
T.Tan ,   Australia   (10.30.10)
What is wrong with the judgement of the Prime Minister of Turkey Mr Erdogan.Can't he see that Iran , Syria, Hisbullah poses the real threat to peace and stability in the Middle East not Isreal.Isreal has to remain strong especially when you are surrounded by fanatics,countries which want to see the annihilation of Isreal.Erdogan in my opinion has very poor understanding of the Middle East history, or either that he is blindly following the belligerent Arab countries. What a shame.
35. #22 - so why hasn't the UN agreed with you yet?
William ,   Israel   (10.30.10)
Gee, it seems so simple. Give the Arabs everything they want and they'll be peaceful. Oh wait, we tried that in 1948 and 1967 (remember we offered land back for peace and they rejected it?), 1994, 2000, and again recently. Each time, they demanded more. SO that boat has sailed. The UN doesn't see fit to make a "Pal" State on 1967 lines because it just won't help the security situation and will never end the war. While that IS the Intl community's goal, your's is to be anti-Israel and destroy my State. Which is obvious with your Western name in Ramallah, meaning you're probably a member of ISM and routinely break intl law by taking part in violent fence protests. If I were you, I'd relegate myself to sipping tea in Ramallah, or go home and write nasty Op-Eds because the next tear gas canister might have your name on it..and you'd only have yourself to blame.
36. #18 - pretty ignorant of "Palestinian" society
William ,   Israel   (10.30.10)
The "Palestinians", who aren't even a coherent population but a hodge-podge of various tribes with different agendas, said explicitly that any final agreement with Israel will not necessary end the war. Hamas stated it out-right referring to their charter to destroy Israel. Then you have various foreign elements that stoke the fires, mostly "Palestinian" terrorist groups operating from Syria and Lebanon. For peace to work, Arabs MUST accept Israel and Jews as a human right of existence, and "Palestinians" MUST agree completely that the deal is done and aggressions are ended forever. But they won't. Never underestimate the ability for failing Arab leaders to piggy-back on the Israeli-"Palestinian" conflict to deter attention from themselves, just as Erdogan is doing. Saddam did it, and so did Nasser. Where are they today?
37. #28 - despite Greek actions, Turkey in Cyprus still illegal
William ,   Israel   (10.30.10)
No matter what Greeks have done, Turkey is still in violation of Intl Law by occupying Cyprus. Turkey still oppresses Armenians and routinely ignores attacks against them, since the WWI genocide. I'm not knowledgeable about Bulgaria but I do know they are pretty anti-semetic so their anti-Turk actions wouldn't surprise me. However, I do know of Turkish populations in Germany and Switzerland and they are both ignorant, racist, and acting out of a belief of supremacy over non-Turk, non-Muslims. Because of their racist attacks, a synagogue in Essen, Germany needed 4-in bullet-proof glass and dual-security doors. With that kind of threat, I kind of understand the expulsion of Turks from any country they abuse.
38. #18 Kagan
Erol ,   Montreal   (10.30.10)
Don't you know that Hams has said many times that they will NEVER sigh a piece deal with Israel? As long as HAMAS is committed to the destruction of Israel, Israel can do nothing. Unfortuately FATAH does not count much.
39. Where is the Israeli response?
Maurice ,   Montreal, Canada   (10.30.10)
Where are Liberman and Bibi? How can they not responsd to such absurd accusations? Are they scared that Turkey will sever relations? Let them do it! Turkey needs israel more than Israel needs Turkey. Tourism, military, technology, etc. it all comes from Israel to Turkey not from Turkey to Israel. Show some courage Bibi! And you Liberman, has the cut suddenly got your prolific tongue?
40. 32 Salma, Israel won't fall like Eurabia
(10.30.10)
41. The Turks always were a threat to the
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (10.30.10)
civilised part of mankind, they have not changed and should be thrown out of NATO immediately.
42. 31 noa, of course, it is your ignorance
Can   (10.30.10)
Bulgaria is still in trouble with its racism against Turks and is suffering from its legal cosequences under the EU regulation. Armenian armed organizations such as Tashnak and Hinchaks launched a terrorist war against almost all non-Armenians between 1890s till 1920s. You must read respectable historians Avigdor Levy, Guenter Lewy, Stanford Shaw, Justin McCarthy, Norman Stone, Gilles Weinstein to understand how brutally Armenians killed the Turks, Circussians, Kurds and Jews. Have you not wondered about why there are no Jews in Armenia? There are Jews in all surrounding countries even in Iran but not in Armenia. You must read about General Dro and Armenian legion under the Nazis. Your ignorance is a problem noa, but championing murderers is even more embarrassing problem of yours.
43. TIME TO BREAK REALTIONS WITH THESE ISLAMOFASCISTS.
Ben Avraham ,   Tel Aviv   (10.30.10)
44. #32 Per usual, silly Salami jaw-jacking..
Doomsday Toddler ,   Germany   (10.30.10)
just for the sake of it.
45. #32 Salma, Arabs were cheering against Ankara...
(10.30.10)
Arabs, especially Palestinians, were cheering 'Go London Go' and massacring Turks until 100 years ago. In last decades Arabs, especially Palestinians, supported terrorist organizations against Turks. How can you now look at Turks' face?! Actually, you and your brother nation Jews are quite similar to each other. Both of you are nations who always live under other powerful nation's and always ready for backstabbing at any time.
46. # 34 T. Tan
Hal ,   Usa   (10.30.10)
While I agree with part of your post, I have to say that the problem is not in Erdogan's undertstanding of who's who or what's what in his neighborhood. The problem is his desire to be the top dog in this neighborhood. Erdogan has by design placed relations with Israel on a collision course with his Islamic facist empire headed by non other than himself. He is laying the ground work for the second coming of the Ottoman hegemony in the region. Only this time it will be an Islamofacist one that will reflect his innermost Adolf !!!!
47. gog &magog on its way
avi ,   israel   (10.30.10)
god gave the land of israel to the descendent of jacob to care for it , israel is god's land forever . giving a piece of it wont solve the problem.. fasten your seatbelt for gog & magog live on "eye witness soon " for all you gentils , you cant dance at 2 weddings at the same time . place your bets . all what is happening is masterised by god for the final judgement , all these leaders are reincarnations of tyrans, they will all get the same resolt as pharoh , bilam and others for us jews , it is wise to keep an open line with god , no matter what your distance from him.
48. TURKS WILL HAVE HARD TIME
AMERICAN ,   Los Angeles   (10.30.10)
to convince the world they are not part of the islamic terrorist regimes like Iran and Syria.They will pay a heavy price by standing against Israel and US.We'll recognize the Armenian Genocide and will support the kurds in their independence.
49. Threat
Ezra ,   Florida   (10.30.10)
Israel should prove this jerk that he is right by threatening the turkey who is leading Turkey that it is time for him to shut up.He is preaching for war. To the turkey who is the leader of Turkey: What happened to the Armenian holocaust by your people? Israel always asked and promoted peace and the arabs and muslims of your ilk constantly rejected ir.So go jump into the Black sea and bother to float, you turkey.
50. Conventional and non- conventional threats
Shalom Freedman ,   Jerusalem Israel   (10.30.10)
Unlike Iran whose threat is largely through non- conventional means Turkey has a very large conventional force. So the threats to Israel in any future military confrontation are increasing very greatly in both conventional and non- conventional ways. Our military planners have their work cut out for them in a very big way.
51. Israel must force Turkey to recognize Armenian Genocide
Yaniv ,   Israel   (10.30.10)
52. What of idiotic israeli leadership that could not
bernard ross ,   st anns bay jamaica   (10.30.10)
see this coming. One has to be an abject fool to not see this. Yet famous isreali leaders kept talking that foolish line, they should be remembered for having incredibly poor judgment and never be appointed or elected to a serious position.
53. screw them
Ari Gold   (10.30.10)
As we say in America, Turkey and Erdogan can go f**k themselves.
54. #48 IN YOUR DREAMS
(10.30.10)
The West admires Erdogan, particularly the EU. Armenian genocide is a myth and it is only a tool for politicians to use Armenian lobbies/votes in their countries. International courts and historians don't agree with Armenian claims. Kurds don't want to be independent, they are like the Arab Israelis despite their whining they never want to leave because they have many financial and political benefits. So what will you do, eh? It looks like you'll continue to satisfy yourself. Unless you want to declare a war against Turkey on your own.
55. Islamist-Jihadist Erdogan
Brod ,   USA   (10.30.10)
is a scoundrel who spends his time barking at Israel instead of developing his country.
56. Economic' Xenophobia 'makes for conflict
Roland Seener ,   London England   (10.30.10)
57. erdogan and olmert
alexi   (10.30.10)
olmert put his trust in erdogan since ehud thinks he is so talented as do some morons at hebrew university. No matter how much olmertslegal friends try to help him, he is going down on the tours case and will do some jail time. Worse is that the families of 2006 war dead hate his guts for allowing idf to flex and change strategy and trap and kill elements of hezbollah. Instead this ass left idf in static positions not in great numbers as sitting ducks. So idf casualties resulted needlessly because of this arrogant. Olmert was using hamas lover erdogan as a' neutral party' to golan giveaway??!! For all of these reasons, if olmert is not punished and sent to jail, the stae of israel will collapse from immoraL pressure.
58. Who are you ..
Karamanli ,   Amsterdam, Holland   (10.30.10)
.. an american or an israeli? Where lies your commitment? In the USA or Israel? Difficult questions maybe?
59. To all those outside Israel
Karamanli ,   Amsterdam, Holland   (10.30.10)
A very simple question, who are you guys, are you Israeli citizens or jews abroad? In case of the latter, why are you surprised than that moslims in the world are uniting? What is the problem? If Israel is a true friend, it accepts criticism from a friend. Otherwise who is going to tell you that you are wrong? Or do you only expect a pat on the shoulder? Wake up, and smell the coffee.
60. #47
Karamanli ,   Amsterdam, Holland   (10.30.10)
Please enlighten us how you keep an open line with god. Does he have a mobile phone or something? Just for your information, nobody gave you israel, so it stop being ridiculous saying that "god gave it". What you guys wrote in a book, does not make it true.
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