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The hateful Norway debate
Manfred Gerstenfeld
Published: 28.07.11, 18:01
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31. What the wols needs now is LOVE sweet LOVE!
Liora E ,   israel   (07.29.11)
love yourself and others alittle beat brothers and sisters and show some compassion to Norway on this sad days...
32. these people who write here are not Isrselis
Sharon B ,   Israel   (07.29.11)
I see people from belgum, germany and the US writing like the were israelis. It is way to clear to me that the're not!!!! dear Norwegians, I suggest you to read only israeli comment before jump into conclusions! we in Israel love you and understant your tragedy no matter who were the people this terrorist murdered in vain.
33. Nobody said, including Glen Back
Moshe ,   Netanya   (07.29.11)
that members of Hitler youth, Chinese pioners, North Korean pioners, or Norvegian camp haters, or Soviet pioners must be killed. Their parents are responsible for Hitler youth, pioners, or Norwegian camp haters.
34. Interesting comments on BBC
Moshe ,   Netanya   (07.29.11)
Before it became clear that bomb in Oslo was not an Arab thing like all bombings around the World, most comments on BBC were like this: "Why Norway not Denmark who had a picture of Muhamad? why Norway? They are not Dannes. The other commentator told that for Arabs Dannes and Norway is probably the same; like we they do not distinguish between small countries. They did it in Norway by mistake. Oslo did so much for Arabs - commentator said. Look at Oslo peace accord" -another commentator on BBC said.
35. POOR KIDS...
alon ,   israel   (07.29.11)
this killer is inhuman! RIP kids.
36. good Article! Norway needs out support
Brain ,   Israel   (07.29.11)
I pray for you guys in Oslo...
37. @15:
mehrdad ,   germany   (07.29.11)
YOu and your country are the ones who spread hate against jews. and now you come here and complain that we are against your sick ambassador who speaks about "good terror" against jews and "bad terror" against norway? your country is the most antisemitic country in europe.
38. Norway just got a taste of it's own meds !
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (07.29.11)
39. the answer of all the terrorists and haters in the world
Jacob Rosene ,   Israel   (07.29.11)
(including boycotters and israel's haters) is more LOVE and HOPE! we won't stop loving and supporting eatch other as human beings!
40. Does Norway's LOVE include Jews?
Bad assed Jew. ,   United States   (07.29.11)
Aren't most norwegians, "Christians'? I wonder now if they still love Jesus, another Jew......... If Jesus were to appear in Norway today, they'd boycott him and ridicule him in their parliament for being a Zionist. Norway has some real soul searching to do. Seems these "Christian's" favor Jesus enemies more than Jesus. Next time you hold up a "Boikott Israel sign, think of this. Vengeance is mine saith the Lord."
41. Good article
Sobieski ,   Germany Sweden   (07.29.11)
Quite well reflects the dynamics in Germany and Norway
42. Anyone who boycotts us
Or ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.29.11)
And acts like the Nazis in 1933 will receive the Israeli response. More love, more understanding and more hope. We know what a terrorist attack is like and we will not cooperate with terrorism and hatred (including the hatred of boycotters)!
43. #15 Selective love
Raphael ,   Netanya   (07.29.11)
After 700 among the 1200 norvegian Jews were dispatched to the gas chambers by the Quisling regime, after WWII, the Norvegians settled their guilt by carefully letting in 700 jewish refugees, holocaust survivors, not 1 more. To be compared with the present 400.000 "multicultural" immigrants.
44. Norwegian Labour Youth have wanted Israels demise since 1971
Michael L. ,   Bergen, Norway   (07.29.11)
The Labour Youth League (LYL) in Norway, whose summer camp was the scene for the Utoeya massacre, proposed at its annual general meeting way back in 1971 the following: "Lasting peace presupposes that the State of Israel ceases to exist as a Jewish State ..." The motion became somewhat modified, but included a clause about the Palestinian refugees having the right of return. This requirement amounts to the same thing as the de facto demise of Israel. With a massive influx of Palestinians a Jewish State would not be able to survive. Let us have no illusions, the LYL has for the last 40 years been a pro-Palestinian lobby group that has really shaped the mainline Norwegian policy regarding the Middle East . Fresh proof of this can be seen the day before the massacre when BDS was on the agenda at Utoeya. A big banner advocating boycotting Israel welcomed one of the speakers, FM Stoere (who incidentally referred to boycott as a "monologue" whereas he preferred "dialogue" , - whatever that means). Stoere is unfortunately notorious in Israel for his slights to Israel and her policies. It would not surprise me that in Norway BDS will become the official social democratic policy in the years to come.
45. Just keep hating
Kent ,   Norway   (07.29.11)
Many of the responses here must reflect the opinions of 14-year old kids who have played too many violent computer games. Or perhaps this is the forum where the thugs of foreign minister Lieberman are allowed to run rampant? Norway does not need the sympathy of right-wing extremists, so your hateful messages cannot do more harm than what your type of people already has caused us.
46. #2 your comments are anti-semitic here is why
Golan ,   modiin   (07.29.11)
you claim that Arabs are semites... so are Phonicians, Caananites, Israelis/Jews and others. However anti-Semitism is another word for Jew hatred-not based on religion but ethnicity/race/national origin regardless of religious belief. Arab is also a language identity and anyone speaking Arabic is an "Arab." To deny that anti-semitism is the hatred of Jews (by claiming Arabs are Semites too) is to deny the illogic and contradictory libels and truths against Jews often spread by (ethnically) Arabs and (religiously) Muslims the world over. The kids murdered by a terrorist in Norway were supporting Arab terrorism against Jews. Then they got a taste of what that hate filled terror is like. To supoprt anti-Zionist terrorism is like supporting anti-AUF murders. Both want to eradicate a political movement and murder its children. Anti-Zionist murders has also killed and targeted non-Zionist Jews (especially the penguin suit kind) This is why being anti-Zionist is to be anti-semitic; there is no distinction between Jew and Zionist in the minds of AUFers, Arabers, or other "anti-Zionists."
47. dear Kent from Norway:
Sharit Baruch ,   Israel   (07.29.11)
First of all, I'm sorry for you loss of life. As someone who lost a brother in the attack of 2000 in Israel I can identify with your pain, as the vast majority of Israelis. Unfortunately, there are people with extreme views from Israel and abroad who have found this site and they use it to write their words of hatred freely. That's democracy, there in nothing we can do ... Second, I wanted to send you, on behalf of all my friends and I, our love and our prayers. (And BTW, I'm right- winger so we're not all the same).
48. We are all one living human tissue. is that rings a bell???
#45 is right ,   remember???   (07.29.11)
49. @Kent 42. Don't judge us for our feelings. You, Norwaygians
aaa ,   israel   (07.29.11)
have always though that you are superior than every one else.You are the most moral people in the world and you the ones who know what's right. And now you're talking about "loving" everyone. Where was the love of the Norwegians during the holocaust? Oh, I remember now, the love was for the Nazis. Where was the love when Israeli kids were massacred during terror attacks ? Oh, I remember now, the love was for the Arab terrorists. So please don't patronize us and don't tell us what to feel.
50. #45 Kent: K. Halvorsen is the "thug"
Thomas ,   USA   (07.29.11)
Unlike your Socialist Kristine Halvorsen who wanted to bomb and kill the Jews, Lieberman did not declare war on Norway. While there is an incessant hate campaign against Israel in Norway - an official policy - there are no "bomb" Norway voices in Israel. Halvorsen is the true Aryan spirit your people represent.
51. The hateful Norway debate.
Elsie ,   Gush Halav   (07.29.11)
#47,I quite agree with you, what you wrote is all too true,you don't have to be left or right to see what had happen in Norway was terrible and sad,so we really don't need to throw more oil on the fire.
52. The truth
Madeleine ,   Rehovot Israel   (07.29.11)
The truth is that everything Breivik said about Islam is absolutely true. Just so terrible that he had to kill so many in order to - in his opinion - make his point.
53. #45 Kent
Madeleine ,   Rehovot Israel   (07.29.11)
Could you please explain in detail a) what "your type" means and b) what harm as the aforementioned type "already caused you?" On the other hand the infamous "Oslo Accords" have caused Israel and Israelis immeasurable harm.
54. #45 enough with the self-righteousness
Tahl   (07.29.11)
Exactly which "hateful messages" are you talking about? Please show us specifically and explain where you see any hate. And actually, many comments here expressed sympathy to Norway, funny how you completely ignored them. The only real hateful message I've seen here is by #2, probably a fellow countryman of yours.
55. @45:
mehrdad ,   germany   (07.29.11)
hard to see that your sick countries antisemitism isnt acceptec by the users here little quisling. actualy the leftists are the ones in your country who invite people to attack jews by their propaganda. best example for this brainwashing is: a surviving kid said "i thought thats a simualtion of israeli treatment of arabs". thats clearly the result of hitlerjugend like brainwash.
56. Thanks
Kent ,   Norway   (07.29.11)
Thanks for your decent remarks, Sir. I of course referred to the extreme right, not the right per se. The Norwegian left and right is united in grief after the destruction caused by one xenofobic fascist who is a shame for not only the nation, but also the whole of humanity.
57. Reply
Kent ,   Norway   (07.29.11)
a) Violent fascist elements like Breivik and those of you who seem to enjoy the carnage he unleashed b) Ref. what happened on 22/7 I'm not sure what harm the Oslo Accords have caused you. It was an attempt to help you and the Palestinians achieve a settlement that admittedly in the end failed.
58. #57 Kent
AK   (07.29.11)
Youare not sure what harm the Oslo Accords have caused Israelis? A couple thousand dead and several thousand more mutilated. 'Oslo Peace' brought terrorists next door to Israeli civilians, armed them and has given them an international status, protection and financing. Your country gives those very terrorists money and moral and political support. Does this answer your question?
59. Boycott Hate
Eva H ,   Oslo, Norway   (07.29.11)
There is no boycott of Israel in Norway. The view on this is very diversified, as we see this matter not only from your side but also from the Palestinians side. There has been terrible losses on both sides. But, in Norway - we do not supports terrorism - no matter what the reason behind is. Do you truly believe that you can solve this war like situation with guns and war ? Do you not see that this leads to more sorrow, more hurt and more losses ? We live in a world where we need to accept and respect each other and love each other if we want to live in peace. We could respond to the terrible massacre here in Norway with security and harsher laws, with more controls etc etc, but we did not. The names of the victims are now released. The majority of the victims are 14-16 years old. Bless them, I know they will be in heaven. Eva
60. @kent:
mehrdad ,   germany   (07.29.11)
what do you say about the antisemitic actions of your country like: -best contacts with the jew killers of hamas. -jews cant get kosher meat but muslims their halal meat. -its ignored by your leftist facist regime that the tiny jewish minority is attacked by muslims on a daily base. -your islamic/letist univercities refuse to let a jew (allan dershewitz) to speak while they invite hama killers often. oh kent..your countries record on hateing and killing jews goes back to your quisling regime. no wonder that quisling is maybe the most known norway person worldwile.
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