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Don’t trust the French
Giulio Meotti
Published: 14.11.11, 11:32
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31. #8 Crosscheck your facts you are nore wrong...
sam   (11.14.11)
32. ermmmm....
Gabriel ,   Leiden, Netherlands   (11.14.11)
'A few weeks earlier, Sarkozy ordered that school textbooks avoid the use of the word “Shoah” to describe the Holocaust, preferring the term “anéantissement”, a word that merely means annihilation.' 'merely'? Yup, the French downplayed the issue with that particular one, right. The gall of them. I'd say annihilation is a rather apt description. I am not sure what the author finds objectionable in this phrasing.
33. Bigotry #1 ?
Sceptique ,   France   (11.14.11)
Did Israel call France a "shitty little country"? Did Israeli PM called the French people "domineering"? Do we give weapons to France's worst enemies? Did Netanyahu call Sarkozy a "liar" (all politicians are liars, so Sarkozy is one too!) You cannot just reverse the argument and substitute "Jews" for "French". Because we don't behave like France's enemies, while France behaves like a country hostile to Israel.
34. To #17 No matter how many moslims
jason white ,   afula, israel   (11.14.11)
there will be in the U.S., the majority of American citizens and politicias will stand with Israel There may come a day soon when moslims will be exiled or deported from the U.S. Americans do not like them!
35. The French support of Khomenei started
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (11.14.11)
the mess in Iran...there is NOTHING MORE TO SAY ABOUT THE FRENCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
36. It's true the French are fickle...
esnuffnstl ,   USA   (11.14.11)
....even playing both sides during the Cold War. But it's hardly surprising many in France are questioning why their nation should support Israel. Soon enough much the same will happen in the US. The only thing that will prevent this is if Israelis stop electing far-right, war-mongerers as leaders. Yes, the people of Israel can do what they like and vote who they like into office, and other nations like the US can do what they like and choose to lessen our support for Israel. The challenge rests in the hands of individual Israelis to take on those on the far-right who believe the answer to all of Israel's problems lies in force of arms. The world's changing and it's past time that Israel caught up with it. Articles that repeatedly cherry-pick past events from the 20th century to further a victimhood narrative don't help...
37. dont trust the french
spooky ,   birmingham uk   (11.14.11)
they are no frends of the jews they never lifted a finger in the last war to protect there jewish citizens handed them over with relish to the germans
38. Dont trust the french or us
gigi aldred ,   Cairns Australia   (11.14.11)
Israel, your worst enemies are the French and US, so you hated Gaddafi but he did nothing to endanger your country - it was mutual dislike but never the drums of war. The US & France hate you -Obomba and Sarkozy made this very clear to the world at the G20 meeting accidentally . I believe that they and the AU are forcing you into a war you don't need and don't want with Syria first and Iran next. The goal of the US, France and the AU is to destroy Israel and make it look like you lost. Be careful Israel you are into bed with worst monsters that mankind ever created. They want Syria, Iran and others to turn against you and destroy you. Be careful Iran, Syria and LIBYA are not the enemies but the AU, US(OBAMA WHO HATES YOU, KILLARY CLINTON WHO HATES HER SON IN LAW AND THE DWARF FROM FRANCE are the real enemies. You need to address this
39. don't forget Ilan Halimi
Maurice ,   TLV   (11.14.11)
40. You'd think he'd cut us some slack
Talula ,   Israel   (11.14.11)
seeing as his mother was Romaniote (Greek Jew). He's a two-faced lying old Git!
41. France is not France anymore
jacky ,   barcelona, Spain   (11.14.11)
20% of the french population are arabs, they don´t care for Israel they have their own concern.
42. To: No. 36
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.14.11)
Well, the world may be changing, but it hasn't much changed for the Jewish people. It seems almost everyone would prefer to see us dead. Forgive us if we prefer not to be herded into gas chambers ever again, and take the necessary steps to ensure it.
43. A question to Gabriel, Tel Aviv
Molly's dad   (11.14.11)
Are you yourself Jewish and/or Israeli Gabriel? Or a radical ISM-er who is squatting illegally in Israel waiting to punce on his hapless victims forever badmouthing Israel and everything that is connected to it?
44. The French policy is a burden
Stefan ,   Germany   (11.14.11)
French newspapers celebrated the introduction of the Euro currency as "versailles sans guerre". You have to remember, that the treaty of Versailles in 1919 was one of the preconditions for the rise of Hitler. Now Europe is at the verge of a collapse because of the Euro currency. The French are also mainly responsible for the policy of islamization in Europe.
45. HAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!!!!!
Michael Steiner ,   Bahrain   (11.14.11)
What, no mention of the Dreyfus trial? I was sure the author would try to plug that somehow into this pathetic excuse for an article. I guess to some people "pro-Israel" or merely "not anti-Semitic" would mean legitimizing the current Israeli government's obstinacy and terror, and even encouraging it to up the ante further. This kind of tripe may be gobbled up by a selected section of TalkBackers on Ynet, but in any other context would cause the author to be committed.
46. Let's go back also to Alfred Dreyfus
Uri Bernard ,   bernarial@gmail.com   (11.14.11)
Meotti is right: the French have a problem with the Jews
47. @38
Gabriel ,   Leiden, Netherlands   (11.14.11)
forgot to take our medicine again, have we?
48. So do I
Lea ,   Jerusalem, IL   (11.14.11)
I dont think Sarkozy is the only one who thinks Netanyahu is a liar....
49. LiBibiman are a failure, Israel is a great country
berlonski ,   berlin   (11.14.11)
Sarkozy (and Obama and Merkel) understood that. The author of this article obviously not.
50. Chidish diversion from the truth: Netanyahu IS a liar
Dovid ,   Los Angeles   (11.14.11)
51. France...the sewer of the world!
Anti French ,   Now in US   (11.14.11)
France's very very occasional "benevolence" towards Israel in particular and Jews in general is/was/will be temporary aberrations of its age-old traditional hypocrisy, cowardice, hatred and willful harm of Jews, and since de Gaulle's presidency, against Israel too. It is a base, hateful and unprincipled country that is both immoral and meretricious...its intrinsic national philosophy, very much Catholic-based despite rampant secularism, is/was pure self-interest couched in the loftiest platitudes and inanities to justify all its destructive misdeeds and anti-Jewish behaviour through the ages. How do I know? I was born and raised there AND fled from there, along with tens of thousands of my fellow Jews. Why did we all flee France...why do Jews today still abandon France? Because under the thin veneer of puffery called "liberte, egalite et fraternite" the same age-old lethal animus against Jews persists unchanged. Plus cela change...plus c'est la meme chose! The rallying cries of the mob "Mort aux Juifs/Death to the Jews" and other such sweet endearments lose their charm very rapidly if one is the potential victim of such tender mercies... Lest people forget, they should read (or re-read) Andre Schwatzbart's "Le Dernier des Justes/The Last of the Justs" to remind themselves of France's and other EU member's magnanimous character and deeds towards Jews. No, nothing much has changed over there...but if any change has occurred then it is ONLY for the worse!
52. #9 queen visited ireland for first time EVER this year, its
Kungsträdgården Jew   (11.14.11)
not all about Israel you know... She doesnt just arrive, she has to be invited. hat said, she did Knight Peres last year. An honor for the most noble of men, her words. The USA wasnt that loving of the Jews this week in Brooklyn, NYC.. just saying.. BTW, where is thhe KKK from? are Jews still restricted from Country clubs?
53. Don’t trust the French
sandro ,   italy   (11.14.11)
The 6 days war was won thanks to French Mirage aircrafts and, as far as I remember, also during the 1973 war , IAF's superiority in Egypt's and Syria's skyes was due to French Mirages fight planes US and England had refrained ,in those years, to deliver hight tech arms to Israel. So we should not forget it.
54. Lea, a question
Coolguy   (11.14.11)
Lea, could yíou please and inform us when and where did Bibi "lie" to Sarkozy and in what? I'll bet al my wealth that you are mindlessly spouting stupidities which has absolutely got zero to do with reality. Do us a favour silly bimbo, be specific or just be ashamed and a laughingstock in front of the whole world!
55. Ynet and Ydihot
Gregg ,   Haifa, IL   (11.14.11)
you always write about antisemitism all over the world, but you're just the same. Promoting hate, ignorance and stupidity is what you do best !
56. French army
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (11.14.11)
- Why do the French plant trees in Paris? - To give German soldiers some shade. - What do you call 10.000 Frenchmen with their hands on top of their heads? - A French army. - Why do the French hate America? - The French hate winners.
57. IVRI = when necessary AGAINST HYPOCRITICAL world opinion.
Jerry ,   The Netherlands   (11.14.11)
58. Don't trust anyone!
berlonski ,   berlin   (11.14.11)
Don't trust the French! And following Meotti's former articles: Don't trust the Bristish! Don't trust the Italians! Don't trust the Americans (they elected Obama!)! Don't trust the Germans (of course)! Don't trust the Norwegians! Don't trust all these basically anti-semitic Western countries! But who is left then? Can Israel prosper only with Canada and Southern Sudan at her side?
59. #39, What's with him?
Gregg ,   Haifa, IL   (11.14.11)
What does he have to do here?
60. My response to Sarkozy's remark on Israel's existence
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (11.14.11)
That's precisely the problem. As long as people spread hate and racism against Jews simply because we happen to be Jews, there will never be peaceful relations. Peace can only exist when peaceful feelings are mutual. Israel doesn't have to ask anyone about "permission" to exist. Instead we can ask why the French or 7 billion other human beings have the right to exist and what is so noble and wonderful about the other 7 billion people that are automatically given the right to exist - a right so natural that no one thinks about it or questions it, but when the Jewish identity and existence comes into question, it is all of the sudden developed into an ideological question - an academic question that is debated. Precisely that is anti-Semitism Sarkozy: the singling out of Jews of all nations and denying Jews the right to life, the right to identity, the right of self defense, the right to freedom and the right to independence/sovereignty - the same rights that most nations take for granted. I just want to remind you dear Sarkozy that the Latin, Greek and Russian alphabets come from the Hebrew alphabet. Christianity comes from Judaism. Islam comes from Judaism. Much of modern society and its technology and science comes from modern Israel and the Jewish people at large both in and outside of Israel. Israel is one of the oldest civilizations on earth. The same cannot be said about the Arabs, Turks, Moslems, Russians, Europeans or Americans. The Jews as a civilization had already existed for 3000 years when the French took their first stumbling steps toward civilzation about 1000 years ago. Jewish nationalism has existed for 3000 years. Chinese nationalism has existed for about 2300 years. French nationalism has existed for little more than 200 years - that's the extent of the French identity. Before the French revolution, most people in France didn't speak a word of French. Most people of France didn't consider themselves to be French at all. France is a conglomeration of Germanic tribes, Scandinavians/Vikings/Normands, south European tribes, Arabs, Jews and Celts. France is the most mixed nation in Europe. The only thing that was "French" about France was that the king of France ruled a piece of real estate called 'France" ruled by his family and dynasty - there never was anything or remotely nationalistic or ethnic about the French nation and it still isn't. Since Sarkozy uses a foul racist language against my country, I will do the same against the French: France is a political mistake - a political freak without identity, history or purpose. The existence of France is utterly silly for many reasons: 1) There is no such thing as ethnically or racially French - never ever in recorded human history. 2) Even today, if a person "assimilates" into the French culture, one becomes "French". Again, that excludes ethnic identity. 3) After the French Revolution, if the identity of a person is merely is citizenship, who needs France? 4) Despite that French citizenship and culture is open to everybody, it is clear that Jews were excluded from that rule during the Holocaust, Gypsies have been expelled from France and French people have outlawed religious symbols to be used in public. So much for French democracy.
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