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Clinton concerned over Israeli democracy
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 04.12.11, 08:29
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31. hillary don't forget the foreign agents act
zionist forever   (12.04.11)
Increasing the amount of money that must be paid out for libel. Legislation limiting the amount of money foreign governments can give to politically active Israeli charities. All very undemocratic and very Iran. The US has tough libel laws & their Foreign Agents Act is tougher than anything this government is proposing. The only reason foreign governments are objecting to these bills is because they give alot of money to left wing groups in Israel. As for what the haredi are doing and some of the more hardline elements in the IDF oppressing women, I don't see any government legislation promoting that. Of course if Clinton prefers we can always make it demand women cover up from head - toe when they are out, have the state control of all media and install thought police. Clinton should stick to matters that concern the Secretary of State and butt out of Israeli domestic policy making.
32. Clinton must hate the American constitution
mzk   (12.04.11)
As the Ameircan constitution has only the representatives of the people deciding who site on the Surprem Court. I guess this is less "Democratic" than Israel. Having the people run by a small click in Northern Tel Aviv, with funding by unfriendly countries, is "Democracy"? Denying soldiers religious freedom is civil rights? If I had a son, I'm not as sure I'd want him in Hesder any more. Maybe better to get an exemption.
33. If Americans wouldn't pay for grown men not to work...
Abe Froman ,   New York   (12.04.11)
...the discrimination against women would not be happening. Maybe there does need to be a ban on foreign money, because it is enabling a Jewish Taliban.
34. Advice to Hillary: Worry about Iran nukes.
b mezritch ,   philadelphia pa   (12.04.11)
When they get A-bomb and use it your worries about Israeli society will be moot.
35.  PLEASE complain about Israel AFTER you fix Saudi Arabia....
Sounds like the UN ,   Israel   (12.04.11)
and other Arab/Islamic countries where women can't even vote, drive or go out of the house alone.... Same movie is soon to play in Egypt and much of Islamic Middle East thanks to DC's (culturally ignorant) Arab "spring" (think boing) GET OFF ISRAEL'S BACK
36. Clinton on Israeli democracy
Kibbiitzer ,   Karmiel, Israel   (12.04.11)
While there is some merit in criticising Clinton for expressing her views on Israel, there is cause for concern. We don't want the Jewish Taliban having access to power here in Israel nor do we want 50% of our citizens marginalised because they're female. Israel was founded as a modern egalitarian democracy which we must defend at all costs. Re-read the Declaration of Independence!
37. Of course Israel is turning Anti-Democratic
James ,   Canada   (12.04.11)
Lieberman the Russian immigrant is just implementing Russian-style legislation. Nothing to be alarmed about.
38. Bugging Private Closed Meetings
Mark ben Josef ,   USA   (12.04.11)
Quite a coup. Almost as good as Murdoch pubs hacking cell phones. Either there was a mole or a bug to a closed session and the private conversations. Which? Or is this just made up?
39. Ms. Clinton courted Hasids in NYC...
b mezritch ,   philadelphia pa   (12.04.11)
for votes and money. She didn't complain about Jewish customs then. True colors showing?
40. America requires foreign organizations
michael   (12.04.11)
to disclose information about themselves. why is that acceptable and yet undemocratic for Israel. I think the question Israel should be asking Europe and the United States is: Is it consistent with Democratic principles to undermine a Democratic Ally using NGOs? secondly, To restrict Jews from (living in Jerusalem) their pursuit of life and liberty?
41. what is democracy for Mrs. Clinton ?!
Salma ,   Palestine   (12.04.11)
Hillary is not concerned that "Israel" occupying and stealing land belonging to another people. this is a very democratic act. ha!
42. Deceptive Headline
em ,   Ra'anana   (12.04.11)
The headline of the article exagerated the valid points Hillary Clinton was making. She spoke specifically about the application of some ridiculous codes against women. Not about democracy in Israel. But for the majority of the tb's, facts are not relevant. They rather fight imagined offense with offense...than deal with the issues. What a shame.
43. Don't blow things out of proportion
Moshe ,   Jerusalem   (12.04.11)
No we are not Iran, woman are equal in Israel but there are problems in certain sectors. I agree women should be able to sit where they want on buses and soldiers should ignor women singing in public if it bothers them, say a few psalms or put cotton wool in their ears if this helps them not to get tight in their pants.
44. Hillary is smarter than y'all
US Navy Officer ,   ship at sea   (12.04.11)
Hillary stuck with BillyBoy because Hillary is focused on her own personal goals. Sec'y Clinton carefully targeted her statements to appeal to those whom she needs... Liberal Jewish American voters. Those are folks who have an intense inner angst because they know they are lesser human beings for not having aliyah'd. Yes, they know it and they have an self-loathing because of it. Comes now this shiksa saying, "oh Israel is so bad this and that"; the kano Jews can rationalize that they are just doing the right thing. Assuage the guilt feelings. I like sabra yordim better; they say openly and honestly: I came here for the money. God bless Livni - she's doing a Bar Rafaeli: show biz acts, for the speaking fees.
45. Politics as usual
RCCA ,   USA   (12.04.11)
Criticizing the small problems in Israel as a way of distracting from the atrocities taking place across the Muslim world, and making Israel have to negotiate from a weaker position in future possible negotiations. She probably thinks she's doing Israel a favor but she is no friend. I'm sorry for this hideous action from my govt.
46. I fear for Clinton's sanity
Rick ,   L.A. USA   (12.04.11)
47. What was I thinking????
B ,   Yahud   (12.04.11)
There's nothing democratic about the rich from Europe buying political policies in Israel. Clinton is full of BS. Barrack o's S. To think I voted for her in the democratic primaries.
48. Of course we are not equal
Sarah B, ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.04.11)
G-D told us so and we are not equal in so many ways. There is nothing wrong with banning women from singing in Public, most women cant sing anyway never mind reverse parking, and I should know, Im a woman. Seperating sexes on buses cuts down on arguments about who gets the window seat. We should also bring back the hole in the sheet law. I have had some of my best sexual experiences through a hole in the sheet.
49. But she loved the Lady Gaga Show !!!
LIVNI'swork? ,   Jerusa;em Israel   (12.04.11)
She and Bill were recently seen on the news in the audience of the imfamous for many Lady Gada performance where she was doing a striptease down tto her underwear and the clip showed her in ectasy as she and Bill wildly applauded.The spectacle of a Secretary of State in such a situation tells a lot about the Clintons and their morals and her concern about women's roghts and dignity !. Wasn't Madame Livni just recently in DC and could this have a connection with this statement and Panetta's ?
50. We are not an extension of America
Dan ,   Jerusalem   (12.04.11)
We are a sovereign JEWISH nation. For a Secretary of State she shows an appalling ignorance of our culture.
51. IF these leftist organizations.....
Galut ia ,   Selah   (12.04.11)
wouldn't swallow islamic propaganda hook line and sinker and learn to vet that propaganda ..there would be no need for laws governing donations to them...I am sure there is sometimes just causes but because of the propaganda abuse that islamist put out they get lost in the dust.
52. #49 LIVNI'Swork?
Devorah   (12.04.11)
Are you sure that wasn't Janet Reno Hitlary was with?
53. Hilary obviously briefed by Livni before her address
Mark ,   Lodz, Poland   (12.04.11)
54.  Obama: hope Newt kicks ASS GOOD
Norbus ,   Jerusalem   (12.04.11)
I will be glad to see the back of you and your minions. Your machine is spreading misinformation about Israel. Some knew all along you and the left were not too friendly towards Israel, but did not forsee that you would do nothing to stop Iran getting the bomb and to unleash the hellfire of Islamist extreemists in the middle east. You have brought USA to its knees and delivered Iraq to Iran I can't make up my mind if it is your politics or other factors that brought this tragedy about.
55. Hillary - better pray for future of democracy in Egypt,
(12.04.11)
Syria, Iran, Tunisia, Saudi Arabia etc. which are all, not surprisingly, MUSLIM!
56. the princess & the pea
tiki ,   belgium   (12.04.11)
Remember the tale of H.CH.Andersen, where the princess has to sleep on a pile of thick matrasses, but is kept awake because a tiny pea put under the pile. This way she has to 'prove she's the princess she claimes to be. Clinton is comparing Israel to this princess. She's looking for the pea, otherwise Israel stops being a princess (in her left eye). Clinton who f..... up most foreign relations for the US, who compares, together with her boss, to two emperors without clothes. She became the laughing stock of foreign leaders who don't even take notice what she & her boss have to say.
57. (48) Sara B
tiki ,   belgium   (12.04.11)
Sara, to much information.
58. We should be afraid of saban(clintons
jason white ,   afula, israel   (12.04.11)
poodle) and his forum. We do not need to hear from hitlery clinton or panetta. They are not our friends and want to weaken or destroy Israel. We need a government that tells these two and their jihadist boss to drop dead. Look at that hate filled face of hitlery clinton in the article. The bus segregation is due to the non Jewish hara-di fanatics. They are not a part of Israel, they are outsiders that feed off of the Israeli population and try to force their weird lifestyle on us Jews.
59. ssshh clinton :)
anton ,   Ist. turkey   (12.04.11)
60. The Empire has spoken
Paul ,   Jerusalem   (12.04.11)
to it's province. Hail O' Ceasar The next time you mock the 'Living in the Past', primitives among us, think again..
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