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Time for Israeli civil war?
Raanan Shaked
Published: 31.12.11, 13:59
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31. HAREDI
PAUL GUREVICH ,   NEW YORK, USA   (12.31.11)
IT'S THE HAREDI RABBIS WHO ARE INSTIGATING THIS. THEY MUST BE REIGNED IN.
32. bikini sounds good, but you have to abandon socialism if
marusia   (12.31.11)
You want me on board. Free society cannot be socialist. Want better life? Earn more money - sell yourself for more.
33. I don't know who is dumber
Zoe ,   Los Angeles/Rishon l   (12.31.11)
The "author" or the editor that published this garbage!
34. bring it, fag!
Gary Hess ,   Jerusalem   (12.31.11)
Bring it on! Bring all those sissy-faggots from tel aviv and try and take on the Haredim - will kick your gay asses! (that would be a welcome change from what y'all do with them!). in short, bring it on! you'll lose bad - real bad!
35. illigal article.shame on you Y.net
hadad ,   u.k   (12.31.11)
36. The author is avsolutely sick
Yoni ,   Israel   (12.31.11)
The author of this article is filled with hate and would like to force his way of life on others in the name of liberty. He is the best example of the sick left wingers who are supposedly supporters of liberty but in reality would like the rest of the world to be only like them. They lack compassion and care about anyone else and would be happy hurting and offending anyone who isn't like them. They claim to be pacifists but in reality are only on the most basic superficial level make believe supporters of peace and liberty. Stop the lies and come out of the closet to show everyone the true hatred and anarchy you propose. Fakers
37. civil war?
Bear ,   zefat,israel   (12.31.11)
You should have your right hand cut off just for mentioning themwords civil war, secondly youare a bona fide idiot.
38. Nothing sane about the author...
Daniel Teeboom ,   Netherlands   (12.31.11)
and his article scares me more then Iranian nukes.
39. 27 NYC Girl Help you and G-D...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (12.31.11)
will help you.It is not or G-D or IDF.Israel needs BOTH.
40. Skimpy logic
Sam   (12.31.11)
Thanks for providing proof that drugs, alcohol, and STD ruins the ability to reason.
41. I saw what you look like and you aren't beating anybody
Rod ,   Fargo N.Dakota   (12.31.11)
except for a child perhaps.You pudgy looks are amusing i goggled you
42. Stunning in the totality of it's...
Gideon Reader   (12.31.11)
...stupidity. This absolutely amazing article beggers the ordinary manner in which routine stupid viewpoints are put forth with ground breaking new and improved ignorance; a veritable tsunami of idiocy. A non-violent, administrative regulatory and bloodless civil war. Simplicity. Minimalist. Nuke by offense. And low calorie; without all of those transgendered fatty acids, of a different kind than that the author appears to be dropping. Who would have thought that anyone, anywhere could be so freaking dumb. Will Pilgrim...Just shows to go ya'.
43. YNET GIVES CRETIN A CRAYON
Zimbi ,   NJUSA   (12.31.11)
44. And the news trainwreck goes on...
Roman ,   Lod, Israel   (12.31.11)
Good grief. Also, skidding back and forth along the border between commentary and incitement to violence.
45. Bikini girls
Yonah Grau ,   Safed, Israel   (12.31.11)
Shaked, the author of this article, like too many males, see women only as sex objects..with no brains or mind/ whom he wishes to use as a weapon against Haredei modesty.
46. A truly sick, twisted desperate cry from the loony left.
Chaim ,   Israel   (12.31.11)
Most talkbackers have gotten it right about Shaked's disgusting article and see it for what it is. A truly sick, twisted, desperate cry from the loony left - terrified the vast centre right majority is finally about to take the reins of power.
47. Jail all active extremists & include shaked
David ,   Shiloh Israel   (12.31.11)
This author got one thing right, there are fanatical extremists wishing to create a nightmare scenario of a civil-war. As soon as one of them becomes active in their plans to destroy Israeli society, they should be immediately questioned and subjected to a court hearing. This includes settler elements who want to invade IDF basis, Haredim spitting on young kids, and certainly 2nd rate comedians who try to hide behind unfunny images to propose physical violence against other Israelis. Better still get your foreign passports, your ideas & suggestions are what's really alien at this time when we need to work towards national unity. Get this right, the vast majority of Israelis, including secular, Haredim, settlers, right & left are law abiding citizens who prefer harmony to dischord. This author is exploiting the unlawful actions of these minorities, to propose something of 'monstrous' proportions. Using your childish humor as a weapon might help you plead temporary insanity.
48. Ora , NYC girl is right !
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (12.31.11)
while travelling by bus , i see often people saying tehilim , as if it would protect us . I always think that our grandparents , on their way to auschwitz , were also saying tehilim . To no avail of course . Es hot sei geholfen wi a toite baankes . And you believe in this god ? sad ....
49. Inciting hatred and violence
Ari   (12.31.11)
What a disgusting article. Ynet has sunk to new lows with this piece, although it's a good demonstration of how the left-wing can get away with things that the right-wing could never dream of in the media...
50. is it//
sahar ,   jerusalem   (12.31.11)
marjwna euphoria or sugar over the dead body --it is only not to be silent sure it is scared silent or scared democracy -- i know this is scare to do scare the failing . all the raods will never reach Rome >>so it will never be civil war . many raods one principle but the question is -- the true raod ?????
51. Leagal action should be taken against this idiot shaked
levy ,   u.k   (12.31.11)
52. israel should deport those anti-zionist orthodox to iran
dovdevan ,   ashdod,paris   (12.31.11)
as we know that they don't recognyze the values in which israel was created .we should consider them as ennemies of israel on the same level of the palestinian terrorist .
53. Mr. Shaked Should be Investigated by the Police...
Chaim ,   Jerusalem, Isael   (12.31.11)
...for incitement to violence. The intent of his article is to start a civil war. He mentions head-butting religious people, etc. These sort of comments, if from a Hareidi person, or a resident of Yesha, would be considered "dangerous incitement", and he would be immediately called in for questioning, and most likely held under administrative detention for a few days. But as he is of the extreme left ilk of our country that somehow thinks it is in the majority, controls the media and the courts, nothing will ever happen to him. Well I hope I am wrong about that....
54. Civil war is just a matter of time
Haim ,   TA   (12.31.11)
Unfortuently its the only way to deal with religious fanatism which is destroying israel and killing democracy. Freedom and democracy is worth fighting for and i for one cant wait.
55. Thats fine if they can have haredi squad pushing
Hippocrates ,   Earth   (12.31.11)
shabbat rules on the most meretz secular kibbutz. If you want to offend others you can't ask others not to offend you. Do unto others as you'd have done unto you, thats a hared saying, and Im not hare or religious. But I am respectful and see good points in both sides. You however are similar in mentality to the the extremists. You have the same black and white mindset, just on the other pole...
56. Very mature article and approach!
Shadoil ,   Jerusalem   (12.31.11)
57. TIme For WAR!!!: against stupid op-eds!
Brian Cohen ,   Judean Peoples Front   (12.31.11)
On a scale 1-10 for dorkiness, this one is about an 8.9. Shaked can talk his bikini squad back to the Tel Aviv beach, where nobody is going to bother him today, tomorrow, next year, and most likely 100 years from now. Just like there will be a vocal minority of offensive haredi jackasses, they will be matched bufoonery for bufoonery by jackass seculars. Both will scream that their beloved land of Israel is falling into the other's clutches, and oy va voy we gotta save ourselves from ourselves. Shaked should wake up and smell the hummous: Israel has one of the lowest unemployment rates in the western world, women are still joining the army and serving their country, and the Chief Rabbi of Israel himself will continue attend functions where if a woman soldier starts singing he'll keep his seat and ignore it - just like Chief Rabbis have done. And if some nudnik soldier walks out, they should stick him in the brig to cool his offended testosterone levels.
58. No need for beautiful girls in bikinis
Harvey ,   London   (12.31.11)
Ok forget that . There s always the need for beautiful or even not so beautiful girls in bikinis . Start by removing the madness which exempts haredim from national service . If they refuse ,withdraw their social security benefits forcing them to join the ranks of the employed . By doing that you might just start to repair a fractured society .
59. even Gideon Levy doesn't right articles as stupid as this
zionist forever   (12.31.11)
We have a small number of hardi radicals ( not even all haredi ) and they are grabbing all the headlines because of their trouble making and suddenly we are on the verge of civil war. This is stupidest article I have ever read. What is needed here is dialogue between local haredi communities with the municipalities and secular residents of the city. The haredi can't have it all their own way but likewise the secular's can't have it all their own way because this country belongs to the haredi just as much as it belongs to them. Orthodox Jews are not the enemy and when we start treating them as such then there is no place in the world for a Jewish state. We would be better off handing over to the arabs lock stock and barrel to avoid Jew fighting Jew for control of the country.
60. We are ready anytime you are
Jeriah   (12.31.11)
You want a civil war you'll get one. Even if you don't want one we the Haedi will free the HOLY LAND from you sinners and traitors of GOD
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