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Time for Israeli civil war?
Raanan Shaked
Published: 31.12.11, 13:59
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61. ynet scraping the bottom of the barrel
Yanni   (12.31.11)
Wanted: callow ignorant writers to write 'factual' news articles and op-eds for Ynet now. No experience necessary, just need a brash secular humanist attitude - if you've had a couple or more abortions that will be helpful.
62. An idea
DE ,   San Jose, CA   (12.31.11)
I think the Haredi should be air-dropped into Gaza, Cairo, Teheran and other cities. Then they can join their brethren and all run around with little sticks and smack the ankles of women who are dressed "immodestly". They can help the Muslims learn how to be "offended" by free expression.
63. I like this op/ed
bill ,   someplace, earth   (12.31.11)
why? cause finally someone realizes that this country and those living in it are idotic idealists and the only way to fight stupidity is with stupidity. If you tell a stupid person he/she is stupid, will that make them smart? no. Therefore, play at their game until they realize they can't win. :) btw: you're all way too uptight-relax, it will be ok
64. Haredim and seculars are brothers
hadad ,   u.k   (12.31.11)
the media is our enemy that stirring the division
65. 48 Charles Knowing you...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (12.31.11)
a guy with such a precious Jewish Neshama [divine part], how can i not believe in G-D?
66. ''ISRAEL'' IN ASIA.
SJOERD RUURD VAN DER ,   MULTIVERSE   (12.31.11)
IT IS TO BE HOPED THAT THAT COULD/CAN BE AVOIDED( FOR A POPULATION OF MORE THAN 7 MILLION NOW.).EVERY CIVIL-WAR/WAR HAS TO BE AVOIDED/TO BE STOPPED ALSO AMONG THE ( REST OF THE) ENTIRE FAMILY OF MANKIND ON THE LAND-PART OF THE SURFACE OF THE PLANET EARTH (GRADUALLY, AT LAST.).
67. lapid so called rising star
alexi   (12.31.11)
now with protest movements and dumb editorials, lapid, the super smart journalist now is telling us he sees the light to peace with arabs when no one else has done it. This same lapid whose family hobnobbed with olmert, a crook and coward who harmed israel more than anyone save mortal enemies. Whose father was an enabler of olmert. Whose psychology understands arabs and will find a way. Yes, go back to poland as zohar advises or live as dirthy dzimmis under an arab pasha-end of story. Gingrich says palestine is an invented state and he is dead right, though its maiin purpose is to kill israel since who are they -egyptian, syrian, yemenese, lebanese. The next 3 wars will wipe out the arabs from missile fire by hezbollah, syrian an iran. You want a signal-you shmucks-all of these obama arab spring moslem governments in waiting view israel as the mortal enemy. and if israelis decide to vote lapid and concede the golan, then I advocate-fine, dismantle the state, live in a province of arab palestine. and many jews around the world will eventually convert to christianity as they have had enough of olmertism and livnism and now lapidism-endless rationalization and self flagellation.
68. If the leftists start a civil war the Macabees will....
Yehuda M. ,   Israel   (12.31.11)
finish it. Suggest you don't challenge the G-d of Israel.
69. #67 reply
Arik   (12.31.11)
Christianity is a pagan religion, a joke of religion you, have no link to Abraham and you have made Jesus into a GOD. What kind of rubbish is that. Jews who convert to Christianity are fools.
70. If it comes to civil war I'm leaving, never to return...
Nick Sporek ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (12.31.11)
If the world hates us and we hate each other, what is the point in trying to make this work? If it comes to civil war, there is almost nothing left to fight for, so why bother. It's better to pack up and go somewhere else and forget about Zionism or even being"Jewish". I came here to build my country, not to kill my countrymen. As they say, "united we stand, divide we fall". SHAME ON ANYONE TALKING ABOUT CIVIL WAR IN ISRAEL :^(
71. civil war NAH!
meghan ,   israel   (12.31.11)
and no bikinis squad, hey respect ok. They would peek between their fingers anyway..lol hopefully it will all die down, but if not, they have to learn to live and let live on both sides. We dont need more hassel so cool it, and a happy new year!
72. No! It's not time for a civil war!
Yael Schlichting ,   Raubling - Germany   (12.31.11)
It's only time to tell the Hareidim that they not only have rights and liberties. They have a duty! Being free from serving in the IDF, getting state subsidies, which are payed from the taxes of those who work...... leads to obligations towards the rest of the society!!! It's time to make this clear to the guys and girls! They have to meet their obligations! By the way, I do not believe that they are able to go into a civil war. Just look at the boys, when they are throwing stones. To be honest, I find this funny!
73. atelena
Zivron   (12.31.11)
Begin restrained the Urging after Jews were killed and arms lost and you want a civil war for Jewish traditions.The Haredim how many armed forces do they deploy ignore them.
74. True Facism
Yisraeli   (12.31.11)
Unfortunately you can all see where true fascism has its origins in Israeli politics. Those "enlightened humanists" who think they are light years ahead of everyone else would be the first to spill blood all in the name of democracy and decency. The right would NEVER resort to shooting at their own brothers, but not so with the fanatic left, they glady would spill blood and yet call themselves enlightened humans. The road to hell is often paved with good intentions. Leftism is truly a mental disease.
75. Congratulations, YNet
Shotgun ,   Greater Israel   (12.31.11)
Congratulations, YNet, for pouring fuel on the fire of the intramural hatred that threatens to destroy our people and our country
76. Immature thinking
Malka Bando ,   Melbourne Australia   (01.01.12)
Whoever wrote this article doesn't see the forest from the trees. This is not a solution but an incitement to a vicious cycle.
77. Reality
michael Pielet ,   israel   (01.01.12)
This is a stupid, really stupid article written by a moronic, cheloni Israeli. If you do not like it here emigrate with all your friends to Amerika.
78. "Is This Weird Or What"
Noel ,   Aus   (01.01.12)
I suggest as our author has indicated we give also plenty of Shekels to our Golden Clad Bikini Babes to hand out free coines for parking. Only then will our trouble makers chill out.
79. No. 39 Ora
NYC Girl   (12.31.11)
I would never deny your right to your beliefs. But my issue is with people like those who believe the continued existence of Israel is due solely to the will of God. At least you're willing to recognize that the IDF deserves some of the credit.
80. what a stupid article
Mordechai ,   Ramat Beit Shemesh   (01.01.12)
the author should be arrested for incitment
81. LET'S MAKE PEACE!
David ,   New York,NY   (01.01.12)
Hey, no need for violence. It's a time for understanding. For example, that haredi who cursed the chayelet on the bus because she would not move to the back of the bus? Perhaps it all stems from his lack of experience and success with women. If he were better looking and had some success it would change his outlook. So someone should do the humane thing, give him a helping hand and re-arrange his features. Remember, the journey of a thousand miles begins with but a single step.
82. The author is out of his mind.
Gary Glaser ,   Hutchinson, MN, USA   (01.01.12)
The author of this article must be out of his mind. If he is really advocating for a civil war between the left and the right, I'm afraid he'd quickly find out who is really in the majority when the right whips the left.
83. They were right
dan ,   Brooklyn   (01.01.12)
When I read this, I realize that the Neturei Karta are right. Thank God i dont live in Israel
84. Steve: 1500 haredim, not 50 protested in support of violence
Barryy ,   Bet Shemesh Israel   (01.01.12)
"Over a thousand ultra-Orthodox men assembled Saturday night in Jerusalem’s Kikar Hashabbat (Sabbath Square), in protest of what they termed the exclusion of Haredim, a response to the recent outrage over the exclusion of women in Beit Shemesh and elsewhere. The protesters also expressed their solidarity with Shmuel Weissfish, one of the leading activists in the radical Sikrik group. Weissfish is slated to begin his two-year prison sentence on Sunday for vandalizing a computer store in the same Kikar Hashabbat. Some of the protesters are wearing yellow badges, with which they mean to express that they are being persecuted for their Jewishness." From Haaretz http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/hundreds-of-ultra-orthodox-jews-protest-in-jerusalem-against-exclusion-of-haredim-1.404783 and from Jpost: "Approximately 1,500 ultra-Orthodox men gathered at Shabbat Square in the capital’s Geula neighborhood on Saturday night to protest what they called the “oppression” and “incitement” of the “secular community” against them. Dozens of men wore yellow Stars of David on their jackets with the word “Jude” in the center, and banners bearing slogans such as “Zionists are not Jews” and “Zionism is racism” were paraded at the rally." http://www.jpost.com/VideoArticles/Video/Article.aspx?id=251674
85. the ultra-orthodox would lose such a civil war
lolapalooza ,   ta   (01.01.12)
Let's see their prayers work against bullets.
86. None too bright
Barry Winters ,   Edmonton Canada   (01.01.12)
This " op ed" shows that Latma is right about Israeli media. You are a pathetic joke
87. The Israelis are under great strain
Ezekiel Glockenspiel ,   Earth   (01.01.12)
Religious extremism is not good in any religion -- just look at Iran, for example. I do not know the solutions for the problems mentioned in this article.
88. #48: Charles from Pet. Tikvah
Israeli 2   (01.01.12)
Would you have believed in God if they were saved? Apparently not either. It was all tikun nefesh , Charles. I am very sorry for your parents, but at least make them be proud of you and return to Him.
89. 100 - 300 Haredeem doesn't = civil war!
Michael Redbourn ,   Arad Israel   (01.01.12)
I live in a very Haredi neighborhood and I drive my car on Shabbat and carry packages etc I am on good terms with my neighbors and nobody has ever harassed me on the street. This article reminds me of Alice In Wonderland, but that was much better written.
90. This is a really stupid, article
miriam ,   israel   (01.01.12)
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