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Circumcision to be considered a crime in Germany?
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Published: 28.06.12, 13:12
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31. #18 No higher court
Igor ,   Germany   (06.28.12)
The state court was clever: It actually acquitted the doc who performed the circumcision, on the grounds that he could not know that it was forbidden. Now he cannot, and the prosecutor will not appeal.
32. Axis nazi people
HEBREW ,   USA   (06.28.12)
Have no business telling the rest of the world what to do!!!
33. Since when...never
HEBREW ,   USA   (06.28.12)
Will northern people tell the rest of the world what to do think or wear
34. No BRIT for me, no sir e bob !
John Holmes   (06.28.12)
35. Looks like I've got some competition now
Ron Jeremy   (06.28.12)
36. A Lot To do About Nothing
Noah Lev ,   LosAngelesUSA   (06.28.12)
And what about the mllions of girls who are similarly treated in otherparts of the world, including Africa and Egypt, for starters This is a religious ritual..and has minimal health effects, such as avoiding the risk of genital diseases. The baby has no idea of what is happening..and memories are quickly forgotten. Done properly, its harmless..and a little wine helps.No one is forced (parent) to undergo this and it can be done in a hospital. 100,000 patients die/year in US hospitals..through error, yet are the hospitals being closed? People undergo invasive surgeries al over the planet, often unnecessary..and fa more detrimental than the religious ritual. I'd like to have a dollar for every experiment the Germans did on hapless Jews and others during WW2, they now becoming so concered over Jewish/Muslim precedures. This is an anti-Semetic act, nothing less and goes deeper than what is the justification. Finally, iif upheld..like abortions, the parents should take a trip outside the country (like to Israel) and have it done. I mean, who notices a mans penis..customarily at age 8 days or 9? Later in life, its not how deep, its how long in the field that matters. Get my point. Frankly, putting ear rings in a childs ear, is far more dangerous...yet where are the complainers. This is a lot to do about very little.
37. Bla bla bla...
withheld ,   Copenhagen, Denmark   (06.28.12)
Every year another European country is flaming this ritual... Also in my country there was a politician recently bloating their ego by saying how cruel this ritual is. Fact is that more and more non-religious Europeans are circumcising either themselves or their sons. Even Germany which in the past never saw this ritual done outside the religious scene, is now seeing more and more secular/christian circumcision. This is exactly why we see European politicians or physicians speaking out against it, because they want to stop the tendency.
38. #24 Jerry, You are correct but objections are NOTt allowed.
Michael ,   California, USA   (06.28.12)
Don't you understand that only a full submission is acceptable to priests of cults? The cult can go on for thousands of years unchanged because it serves the perpetrators. The masters will not concede any rights to questioning their rules. They cannot open a crack in the wall of their domination, fearing people will escape them and the privileges they have developed for themselves. Those privileges are what they care about, not the suffering by non-consenting young boys. Don't you see the SYSTEM of which circumcision is just the beginning in person's slavery that lasts a lifetime?
39. Norther # 28
Arnold ,   Canada   (06.28.12)
When the child grows up he can decide if he wants to remain a Jew. The child can convert to any other religion he chooses.
40. Why this is a racist move.
Arnold ,   Canada   (06.28.12)
The German government has said "Non-medical circumcision is a "serious and irreversible interference in the integrity of the human body,” .. When was the last time any German politician has walked into a tattooing and piercing parlor ?
41. Circumcision
Harold ,   USA   (06.28.12)
Was God wrong creating a male without circumcision. I was told that circumcision makes the male sex organe unsencitive.
42. German Pagans
WR ,   Germany   (06.28.12)
Most of the German Jews are non-orthodox. One third of the German Jews is uncircumcised. They give a *** on religion. Like our Muslims our Jews are secular. But even if this would be not the case - these are the internal affairs of Germany. We don't tell you how to treat Arabs within the Green Line, so please don't tell us how we should treat Jews inside our borders.
43. What appeal?
WR ,   Germany   (06.28.12)
Who should appeal? The medic left the court as free man. He will not go to court again.
44.  Suicidal prosecutor....
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (06.28.12)
Remember Van Gogh s fate [not the painter]
45. arbitrary and rediculous
Yael Schlichting ,   Qiryat Motzkin   (06.28.12)
1. Circumcision While Germany fear for their foreskin they have no trouble to mutilate the genitals of hermaphrodites. 2. Shechtia Germans insist that animals are stunned before butchered. In practise almost 10% of all pigs slaughtered in Germany are fully awake when they are dumped into boiling water. In Germany shechtia is considered cruel. Wherever you look, you find hypocrisy in Germany. They know everything better and they even insist on being right after you proved them wrong. All this is not about justice! It's about enforcing their christian-occidental model onto (alien) minorities.
46. Do not worry Supreme Court change it
Harun Resit Aydin ,   Kayseri / Turkey   (06.28.12)
It is not important what regional courts in germany, if it is something about religious freedom and in interest from big groups, they will bring it to supreme court, 100 % sure they will cancel it after basic law, because it narrow the free religious life from people.
47. #21 Thanks to the hareidi behaviour
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who refuse to integrate in the Israeli society THE JEWISH NATION WILL LIVE FOREVER.
48. Most of the 30 tkbkrs here who agree with Germany are GOYIM
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So who cares what goyim think and do? We, Jews, are different and we are proud of it. We follow G-d's Torah even in Galut Germany proudly, whether the goyim like it or not.
49. they should ban ear piercings. How many religious circumcisi
allan ,   canada   (06.28.12)
actually result in negative health effects, if done by a proper,certified person?
50. they should also ban all cosmetic surgery for adults as well
allan   (06.28.12)
51. #14 Martin
DavidR ,   USA   (06.28.12)
Your ignorance of the Word of Elohim is astounding. Death sentences for disobedience of Torah Law must be upheld by the Sanhedrin and witnesses must be called. There is no official Sanhedrin seated in Israel with the powers of governing and adjudicating. The German government is not a seated Sanhedrin. The civil government of Israel is not either. However, circumcision is not a death sentence, it is an "eternal life" sentence. Disobedience to Torah is the definition of sin. Shut up until you know what you are talking about.
52. Other fine examples
DavidR ,   USA   (06.28.12)
Who in the past forbid circumcision. Antiochus Epiphanes. Roman Emperior Constantine. All the Poops. Adolph Hitler. See any pattern there? All you fine examples of humanity that are speaking out against His Word are in fine company. I bet that gives you a warm fuzzy feeling all over doesn't it Harold?
53. #10
withheld ,   Copenhagen, Denmark   (06.28.12)
Yes He does, why would He otherwise command this ritual of Jews? Now if you are an atheist you would not believe this to be the case, so that answer of course would not make or break anything in your world. But let me tell you something which is also required of a person, in order to be spiritually clean. A ritual bath is actually needed in order to be spiritually rinsed to be able to stand before G-d in certain situations. The rabbis even instituted the washing of one's hands before eating bread! Again these are small physical acts are done for a spiritual reason, commanded by G-d
54. I have a foreskin ;)
ski   (06.28.12)
its the most erogenous part of the penis with 20,000 nerve endings (the clitoris only has 8,000). I laugh when pro-circumcision women and cut men say the foreskin is a useless bit of skin. Yep, they must know better than me ...after all they read it in some research somewhere so I must be wrong.
55. #37 you talk rubbish
Larry ,   NZ   (06.28.12)
Circumcision is not increasing among western Christians/seculars- it started dying out decades ago. In NZ the rate for newborns in the 1950s was 90%. In the 1970s it was 7% . The medical profession drove this change. Circumcision will soon be confined to Haredim in Israel
56. google jew search results bring up worst anti semitic site
inspiringantisemites ,   around world   (06.28.12)
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57. 48 It is better to obey HaShem than man's laws if there is a
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difference. Rabbi Yeshua of Nazareth said those who love Him would obey His Commandments. Who is Rabbi Yeshua of Nazareth? He said He is Yahweh.
58. German Law
David ,   Germany   (06.28.12)
For those of you who do not believe in God please go away. The Germans are rotting themselves out and this is just another step towards their own self-inflicted annihilation! Circumcision has not only religious but medical advantages. For the Christians among you it seem that there is a dilemma because now Mary and Joseph acted illegally. Just think about this when the next ruling says that baptism is morally incorrect!!
59. So what will happen?
WR ,   Germany   (06.28.12)
According to German laws it is not allowed to harm your child. Even if you like tattoos (like I do) you are not allowed to tattoo your child. You are also not allowed to crop the ears and tail of your dog. So the court had no chance to get to another decision. So what will happen next? Well, the constitution will get a new amendment which will rule that bodily harm is still forbidden with the exception of circumcision. So in the end a lot of fuss about nothing. Don't get me wrong. I still think harming your child because of your imaginary friend told you so is barbaric. But 4% of the people living in Germany are Muslims or Jews. Even if the majority is non religious they do it because of tradition.
60. 21 Charles This is atheist talk...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (06.28.12)
Not secular talk. Most secular believe in G-D and Judaism . Without circumcision one is not a 100% Jew from top to toe,as you was once so proud to be.
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