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Arab-Israelis won't be able to fight their brothers
Muhammad Halaila
Published: 29.06.12, 14:08
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61. Arabs fighting Arabs for a Jewish State
Harold ,   USA   (06.29.12)
The guy is right. How can an Arab fights and kills his brother Arab for an occupying power. The same happened in World War Two when the British enlisted Indians and other occupied nationals to fight and die for them.
62. Nobody's asking you to fight
Vlad   (06.29.12)
But there is already a voluntary national service programme in place, where Arabs can do service as firefighters, paramedics, etc. Not military, but civilian services that benefit the country. Israel has the right to ask you to serve it in exchange for what it does for you.
63. if you don't want to contribute
jezreal ,   emek   (06.29.12)
to your nationstate - go live in the territories.
64. The problem is not Arabs but the ultra leftist liberal Jews.
Dan ,   USA   (06.29.12)
there is no nation on this planet that would supply the residents of Gaza with goods while the Hamastanis continue to blast Israel with missiles. As for the Arabs of Israel they have the best possible scenario. They use the Jewish world class universities, hospitals, social services and professional opportunities but side with the Israeli enemies. It is nuts! It is crazy! However, the incurable ultra leftist Jewish liberals will defend them against the interests of the Jewish nation so that they continue to play backgammon and receive the unemployment/welfare checks refusing to contribute but demand the benefits.
65. Arab Israelis service
ronnie ,   piadelphia USA   (06.29.12)
If not able to defend Israel they need to lose citizenship.Live in GAZA!!!
66. Equal Rights Demand Equal Responsibilites
P   (06.29.12)
There is a constant and appropriate demand from the Arab sector for equal rights in Israel. However, equal rights imply equal responsibilities. In reading this piece by Muhammad Halaila, it is quite clear that he does not agree. His piece here demonstrates a strong antipathy to the "Zionist" state - a state from which he has obviously derived significant benefit. His excuse is quite fatuous in light of the number of Arab's in armies that are occupying other Arabs - an issue that Mr. Halaila, as the voice of Israel Arabs, has no problem with. And even if I accept his argument that Arabs should not be required to bear arms against other Arabs, I don't see how doing other forms of national service - working in social agencies, hospitals, schools etc. - would lead to army service.
67. but they can complain to NGOs about discrimination
rick ,   walnut creek   (06.29.12)
I get it. they have an exquisite sense of their "rights" and they can always run to the u.n. or some ngo or some idiot reporter about some alleged discrimination but, when it comes to what they owe, their responsibilities, no one is home. they are disgusting parasites. and, of course, they know what a farce their position is. but the dummies in the press don't have a clue and the u.n. and ngo's don't care.
68. mo ham MAD you arabs Just Can't Help Showing
(06.29.12)
Your true Intentions in a Blatant Ignorant Manner? Are you arabs ISRAELI CITIZENS? Are you afforded jobs,medical care, voting rights, serve on governmental bodies? Outside Israel are your arab brothers AFFORDED THESE SAME RIGHTS IN: eygpt,lebanon,trans-jordan,syria? WHAT GAUL YOU HAVE? THERE SHOULD NOT ONLY BE A ISRAELI LAW OF LAWYALTY BUT SERVICE FOR CITIZENSHIP. PERIOD END OF STORY!!!!!! If arabs Don't Like it THEY MUST BE DEPORTED, forfeit Land and personal effects in ENTIERTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your Citizenship and Future THE ONUS IS ON YOU and no one else! CHALES!!!
69. Arabs killing Arabs
deavman ,   Acco, Israel   (06.29.12)
While pretty much all over the Arab/Muslim world (Syria, Libya, Iraq, Bahrain, Lebanon, Pakistan, Afganistan, Sudan, and so on) people are slaughtering each other and I don't see them bitching about military service, on the contrary they will gleefully take up weapons so they can take part on the bloodshed. Here the hatred of the state of Israel is what drives them, they won't do anything that might pertain to help Israel even it it amounts to losing their country...And it's their country, whether they like or not, and they are going to Palestine, not being expelled , they are going to abide by the law willingly or forcefully, one law for everyone.
70. Then you do not deserve extra rights, investment,
Avi   (06.29.12)
Rights come with responsibilities. If you cannot protect the nation(please, arabs kill each other every day in the thousands) then you can do national service. Help in hospitals, help in darecare for elderly, plant trees, clean, etc. If you cannot contribute like everyone else then you do not deserve the extra rights given by the state, like welfare, infrastructure upgrade. Is that inequality? Yes, but inequity comes in responsibilities as well as rights. Why have one but not the other? Unacceptable. Should it continue then you're just not a part of the state and a transfer should be considered, not just for social and political reasons, but because this, in part, also affirms your poverty and the drag on the economy. You separate yourselves as well and become a state in a state, as you say, you're part of someone else's nation. A transfer for these reasons would be even more justifiable than the Greece-Turkey forced transfer of 1929, in which 2 million Greeks and turks were forcefully moved, to prevent a civil war.
71. Arabs can't kill brothers?
Syd Chaden ,   Palermo Calif USA   (06.29.12)
That is absolutely untrue. Arab Sunnis and Arab Shiites have been killing each other for more than a thousand years, and are probably doing so, at this very moment. The fact that the killers and the victims may both be Arabs means nothing to either of them. That is equally the case for Muslims who are not Arabs. If the writer means that Muslims can't or won't kill Muslims on behalf of Jews or infidels, that's a different story. The Arab soldier who killed his fellow American soldiers, shouting "God is Great!" in Arabic, did so because he was a Muslim, not because he was an Arab. US troops were killing Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan, and for him, that was intolerable.. That's because Islamic code seems to be that it is OK for Muslims to kill Muslims, but not for non-Muslim infidels to kill Muslims. Any country that has Muslims in its military has to confront this problem, or, run the continued risk of having its military attacked by its own Muslim troops.
72. brother vs brother
aaron ,   toronto,canada   (06.29.12)
You don't fight brother against brother,that's strange.Hamas kills pa,pa kills hamas,syria,egypt,lybia,are all killing each other.what's wrong with you?and that is why they all use you stupid palis(jordanians).don't you have any dignity or do you want to live in garbage all your lives.
73. Arabs won't figt their brothers??
Enoch ,   Toronto   (06.29.12)
And why not? Don't they fight and kill and torture each other all the time? Ma nishtana?
74. Arab brothers
michael birg ,   sydney,australa   (06.30.12)
Well, why can your brothers murder each other on daily basis everywhere else in your world of anarchy? Birg
75. Wrong on two counts
John ,   NZ   (06.30.12)
Arabs can fight brother Arabs, and they do exactly that in many countries right now. Palestine is not a country and never has been.
76. doesn't this says it all?
les ,   canada   (06.30.12)
besides the point that they are torturing, raping, killing each other ie syria, iraq, pakistan, yemen etc. at this very moment, but when it comes to jews...all of a sudden they are "brothers". is somebody in that government picked up on this???
77. U.S. General Dwight D. Eisenhower was German
David F. ,   Alaska, USA   (06.30.12)
Famous WWII U.S. General Dwight D. Eisenhower was German. Eisenhower = Eisen-Hauer = Iron-Hewer = one who hews iron = an iron miner
78. But they want Israel to protect them
Cynthia ,   USA   (06.30.12)
And they want the better quality of life and freedoms afforded by living in Israel. Arab terrorists do not distinguish Arab from Jew when they commit terror attacks. Many Arab Israelis have become victims of Palestinian/Hezbollah terror. In fact, the last Israeli to die from the 2006 War in Lebanon was an Arab Israeli man. This displaced loyalty to people who will not think twice about including them in their jihad makes them pawns hiding behind a lame excuse for not serving in the IDF.
79. hmm... you mean Turkish jets fly on the same power
Miron ,   USA   (06.30.12)
that they say Ieshua walked on Kinneret? Holy cow, US military complex must be some 2000 years behind Russians...
80. 17, Benefits and Burdens of Citizenship
Bill ,   New York, USA   (06.30.12)
I understand that you live where you live and you have a right to live where you live. But if you want to have the benefits of citizenship -- what you may call "equal rights" -- you have to bear the responsibilities of citizenship. Otherwise, there is no good reason why you, while being allowed to live where you live, should not be denied social security benefits, health insurance and access to courts. You really should take your fellow citizens' offer while they are still generous enough to provide national service as an alternative to the draft. They are showing you more consideration than I would be inclined to grant.
81. #25 Same rule for Jews living in America
Howard ,   USA   (06.30.12)
I'm an America Jew and I would die for America if it came to that...and for the Jewish people , too. Who are you to question my loyalty?
82. 25. #3 Same rule for jews living in America.
Howard ,   USA   (06.30.12)
And my challenge to you regarding your place to question my loyalty is cognizant of your position as a member of the USMC...I honor and thank you for your service... What I can't stand is your pre-reflective assumption that as a Jew, committed to the security of Israel, my loyalties must be split and thus I must be inherently disloyal to the USA. Such an attitude is consistent with an irrational jew-hatred. I would hope for better from a US Marine.
83. Israeli Arab Soldier Ambassadors
Gil Michaeli ,   Seabrook, TX, USA   (06.30.12)
Israeli Arabs should be required to serve in the IDF, but they should not be required to serve in units that police the territories. They could serve in recon units protecting ALL Israelis from foreign threats, and they would be highly valuable as ambassadors to Arab countries.
84. it is his right dont go to the army
Harun Resit Aydin ,   Kayseri / Turkey   (06.30.12)
i can not believe that there is so much discussion its everybodies own choice to not go, they are free to decide it, by this comments where i see only nationalists, anti democratic words, and then they every time saying israel is free, only democratic country in mid east, bla bla bla its only comedy i dont believe in it, because i see it in original, i am so happy that i not live there ...
85. Israeli Arabs have to live with stigma of being Israeli....
Elias   (06.30.12)
For an indigenous Palestinian living in Israel, it must be traumatic enough to be labeled as an Israeli Arab when your land is stolen in the name of some mythical Israeli God. To expect these people to defend Israeli colonialism and ethnic cleansing by enlisting in the IDF is the ultimate insult..
86. Arab hypocrisy
Henrik ,   Stockholm, Sweden   (06.30.12)
So you expect to live in a Jewish state and to enjoy all the benefits of a western society, a first class western democracy, a 1st world society, a highly educated high tech society, and enjoy education, medical care, social services, but when your host country asks you to support it when being attacked by anti-Semitic Arabs or "Palestinians" then you say "no" because your flesh and blood are more important than morality, ethics and truth and supporting a good and generous host country that takes good care of you? I can't believe you. You're such ungrateful people. You are so racist. We have a similar problems with Arabs in Sweden: Arabs don't want to work, they don't want to study, they don't want to integrate, they commit most of the crimes, they live in an isolated Arab parallel society that speaks only Arabic, watches Arab news channels (in Sweden but connected to satellite TV), and Arabs just want social allowances. Pointing it out is labeled "racism" by the Swedish Left and by Arabs and Moslems of course. Arabs in Sweden usually never give something back to others. Arabs only want things from others. Arabs are never generous in giving - only in taking from others. If other people (non Arabs and non Moslems) do not want to be milked "prostitutes" that sacrifice themselves to satisfy inflated Arab egos, other cultures of course are "racists". That's insane! No wonder why Arabs are not particularly liked by Israelis and Jews and it takes no genius to understand why so many Israelis want Arabs out. More and more Swedes want Arabs and Moslems out of Sweden. Just read opinion polls Muhammad in Europe and USA. You Arabs are not exactly loved - and it's your fault and your responsibility. It's about time you learn what responsibility actually means.
87. Why?
anita ,   finland   (06.30.12)
Why arabs can have the same rights to vote and so on if they can´t even be loyalty to the state??? just wondering why they have so many exuses for everything. I now the answer, but looks like arabs are really playing it well. those how serve the same demond spirits that mohamed did won´t love Israel.
88. # 1 Who we pale-face?
Kobi Martin   (06.30.12)
" We'll be happy to pay your relocation costs to Gaza City or to Ramallah." We?/ We who pale-face? Who are you to pretend to be Israeli and to speak on behalf of us? Were your grandparents here draining swamps in the Yushuv? Were your parents here fighting for our independence in 1948? Were you here fighting in 67, 73 or 82 like myself? No. You just got a ride when the country was made and no come to sow hate and racism agains our fellow Arabs citizens.... Most of Arabs here have contributed more to the country than you.
89. So Arabs Can't Fight Their Brothers?
Bill Foonman ,   Jacksonville, USA   (06.30.12)
Well they seem to to do a damn good job of it just about everywhere else in the Middle East. This should place Israel on full alert as to where their loyalties lie in the event that Israel is attacked - as if Israel didn't know this already.
90. #40
Sarah   (06.30.12)
Thank you Rami.
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