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The truth about migrants
Erik Arnold
Published: 22.07.12, 21:10
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31. Send them to Jordan.
SD Charger ,   San Diego   (07.23.12)
The US gave Jordan 100 million, 100 MILLION dollars for Syria's refugees this week. Why not put them in Syrian attire and drop them off at the border?
32. African illegals: what to do to satisfy both sides
D Rund ,   Jerusalem Israel   (07.23.12)
On the theory that some of the African illegals may have potential to make a reasonable life in Israel, I recommend that those who favor their staying in Israel be prepared to take one (or more!) into their own houses until they are self-supporting. A program could be set up that the potential deportees could be "adopted" by their sympathizers. The adopting family would have to guarnatee their income until they are self supporting. This would allow the "do-gooders" an opportunity to really demonstrate their committment to these truly unfortunate people whose numbers would overwhelm our tiny country in a flash.
33. to # 1 All Israel is our 'Home State'
jay abouaf ,   Jaffa, Israel   (07.23.12)
The 'Settlers' live in Israel The West Bank is Israel and will always be Israel And the Golan And hopefully again soon, the Sinai Fools gave away beautiful Gaza to criminals and murderers
34. #22 Amen
jay abouaf ,   Jaffa, Israel   (07.23.12)
The land of Israel belongs to those who love it and care for it Judea and Samaria Golan Sinai And maybe one day we will take back Gaza, so foolishly surrendered to evil men
35. To nr 25 - You oppose Israel's right to exist
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (07.23.12)
1) Most Jews in the UK speak English daily. That's not an opinion. That's a fact. 2) Jews are a small demographic majority in London and the UK. That's not an opinion. That's fact. 3) Maybe you should take a look at those that threaten the identity of the UK: Arabs, Africans, Indians, Pakistanis. These are sizable populations in the UK. That too is no "opinion" but a fact. Demographics reveal that. Strange that a "Jew" is picking on Jews in London and Israel. Bertram: either you are an anti-Semitic non Jew or simply a self hating Jew. 4) What about the thousands of Arabs that speak Arabic daily in London? Have you forgotten about that? So Israel can't maintain its Jewishness and a small Jewish minority in the UK is portrayed by you as a group that challenges the character of the UK. Without a doubt, your over obsession with Jews and Israel proves you are an anti-Semite.
36. Should We Support Them?
Cheryl ,   Chicago, USA   (07.23.12)
Look how hard we worked to build this Land for Jews with blood, sweat and tears. Israel is smaller than Rhode Island and it is a Jewish State. We can't even support our own family - should be now be expected to support illegal infiltrators?
37. Illegal Immigrants
Cheryl ,   Chicago, USA   (07.23.12)
Israel is a Jewish homeland. We worked hard to build this Land for our people in the past with blood, sweat and tears. Israel is a very small State. They are coming to Israel illegally and are causing trouble. Even as a Jew, with a birthright, I would have to go through all legal channels to emigrate to my homeland. They came to Israel illegally and they need to be deported. They exploit.
38. African immigrants
Rabbi neitslog ,   Usa   (07.23.12)
Israel is a small country with very small resources. It cannot afford to take in these refugees. It could be a very tempoary transit point to much larger African countries.
39. The eternal home of the Jews
michael Pielet ,   israel   (07.23.12)
Judea and Samaria are the eternal home state of Israel.
40. #17. & let America, Europe & Australia take in the Africans.
Harry Wright ,   UK   (07.23.12)
I'm sure that will everybody happy, you most of all.
41. Best think to do is deport ELi Yishai
Haim ,   TA   (07.23.12)
Rather a thousand imigrants live here than one Eli Yishai
42. #20Never Again
EM ,   Ra'anana   (07.23.12)
When did we lose our compassion for the suffering of other human beings...even the "stranger in our land". It looks like the only lesson we learned from the pre-holocaust days is how to act exactly like the nations who turned their backs on the Jews. They had 'quotas'...and wouldn't let their countries be flooded by Jews no matter how desperate the migrants were. I'm not sure I would want to invite any of the migrants to my house for dinner (I don't think I'd invite you either), but that doesn't mean I want to deny them a refuge...a place to breathe, work, regain their strength for the day when they can return to their homes. We can certainly use the workers and the experience might remind us that 'never again' means for everyone..not just the Jews.
43. Great article, 100% correct!
Evan   (07.23.12)
44. Yeah sure, Reich is burning, save the Arians...
Miron ,   USA   (07.23.12)
Migrants is a complicated issue. France turned cold 2 trains. just like that, filled by estimates 800,000 Tunisians fleeing so - called "revolution". And got away scott free. Far from giving any recepies, it has nothing to do with saving nations. However, it is extremely hard to say anything about "laws" with regards to illegal migrants since both wives of present time PM and present time DM employed illegally illegal migrant and paid them illegally low wages. So, how does Israel plans to handle any legalities related to migrants is a question I'd leave to higher authority since apparently it is beyond human... By the way, not to drop a shadow on former greats, but Rabin's wife ( so I heard ) used similar "employee". A singular exception was Sharon. But he was a low maintenance guy... so, they disposed of him when they had a chance. Didn't fit the mold... By the way, Peres has simulteneous staff of 72 select ones. If you ever wonder about number, feel free to read Koran.
45. Unbelievable
Mike Carmel ,   Rishon le Zion   (07.23.12)
This article is a disgrace. References to "aliens", "infiltrators", "human tide", "ejection" etc are out of place in this society. These migrants may indeed be a problem for Israel to cope with but they are nevertheless human beings. If it were left to the likes of that horrible "Alexander" at # 26 they would be in guarded concentration camps cracking rocks and stones all day. What a disgusting racist talkback that one is. It's no wonder that the international community hates Israel so much with people like that spouting their obscene vitriol.
46. Alexander-As usual,very eloquent and quite correct
Alan ,   SA   (07.23.12)
47. Eric Arnold for dog catcher
Ethan ,   Eilat   (07.23.12)
This clown should run for office, he knows all about spreading fear and hatred while embellishing on the "truth". I believe we need to encourage these refugees to long for their homeland and return with their families ASAP. On the other hand we need to we accept them and let them replace, temporary, our other evil, imported laborers. There is a widely spread lie that these refugees will not work in agriculture. the truth is that the opportunity has not been offered to them because too much money is being made by contractors on both sides of the ocean on bringing in the workers from Asia.
48. Colbert #17, is a pseudonym for banned
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Gush Etzion   (07.23.12)
contributor and dedicated (and obsessed) Jew hater Steve BenASSi of Maryland in the USA. Ynet, beware!
49. So Do Something
Chaya Devorah ,   Brooklyn,U.S.A.   (07.23.12)
He thinks he knows better and would do a better job than Netanyahu,El Yishai,etc. let him run for office!Put up or shut up! Chaya Devorah
50. Arnold
Keren H. ,   Tel Aviv,Israel   (07.23.12)
Deport this Arnold idiot. Keren H. Tel Aviv, Israel
51. "Colbert" is a fake
Robert ,   Haifa   (07.23.12)
All he writes is clearly biased against Jews (not only Israelis). He doesn't really participate in the debate. His replies are always devoid of any reasons. His email is probably fake (no connection to NASA)
52. Again Colbert
Robert   (07.23.12)
Mister Colbert (from NASA?) chooses to say half truths again which means he is cheating us.
53. no relevancy
Robert   (07.23.12)
Please don't change the subject. It is not polite.
54. To #26,#27, #35
Bertram ,   London, UK   (07.23.12)
Poor Alexander. Your talkbacks speak for themselves. Not only are you unable to understand irony you also appear to project your own insecurities onto others. There you are, I am making assumptions about you - probably just as unwarranted as your tiresome accusations of 'antisemite', 'self-hating Jew'....etc. For what it's worth, I believe that your kind of attitude is precisely that which is contributing to the demise of Israel as the forward-looking, democratic national home for the Jewish people which many of us wish it to be. I fell in love with Israel many decades ago in my youth when I spent some weeks in the country. I have continued my connections and my visits ever since. I have family and friends here, yes, including Palestinian Arab citizens. I despair at the moves towards national suicide - not because of illegal/legal African immigrants - but because of the betrayal of decent values. Do I exempt the UK or other countries from such betrayal? No, I do not, but perhaps I expected more from Israel, a young and potentially vibrant country. Instead, it is rapidly becoming like so many other states, inward-looking and narrow-minded. OK, maybe that's what its people want, but to expect to be exempt from criticism is naive and, moreover, to respond to it with cries of 'antisemitism' is not only depressing but trivialises the real antisemitism experienced by our people for centuries.
55. what I love about the Israeli press
dolve   (07.23.12)
you guys must have the only free press in the Western world. This politically incorrect op-ed would never appear in a Western paper, but it is only saying what ordinary blue collar workers ( those betrayed by their ruling elites) know to be true. A country is best populated by one single cohesive people. This is true for Israel where it would be best to have 100% Jews , just as it is true of England where it would be best to have 100% white Christian Brits. Look at America. 90% wasp in 1970. Look at it now.. whites are nearly a minority . Multiculturalism does NOT work.
56. Beg to differ from 20
Robert ,   Haifa   (07.23.12)
We cannot afford to behave more tolerantly than other countries. We can be kind and understanding to the Africans as individuals but that's all we should do. There are billions of people who may want to live here. Should we extend them our hospitality ? Think about it.
57. American Jews invented this insanity
proud yankee   (07.23.12)
US Jewish organizations fought long and hard against the establishment to open up US immigration to everyone in the world, not just white Europeans. They thought a multicultural multiracial society would be good for the Jews. Don't let them destroy Israel the way they destroyed the USA. Resist!
58. Jews as refugees
Shachar ,   Eilat   (07.23.12)
Jews have spent centuries as illegal immigrants and refugees in many many countries across the globe. Where ever they met racists like Arnold and his talkbackists they were humiliated, beaten or killed. When they met a kind hand they prospered and their hosts benefitted too. Now that we are lords of our own land do we want to be like the anti-semites who persecuted us or the righteous who protected us?
59. So ....
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (07.23.12)
Illegal Africans have created problems in Israel, Australia, Ireland, the United States and China. And, quite probably, other nations. Does that say more about the (unwilling) host countries, or more about the illegal migrants?
60. To: No. 45
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (07.23.12)
So, marry your daughter to one of those human beings, why don't you? Better yet -- why don't you? You are such a fraud.
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