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General Assembly recognizes Palestine as observer state
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 30.11.12, 00:19
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61. To: Mickey at No. 7
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.30.12)
Abbas also was the architect of the massacre at Ma'alot. Very definitely a war crime. Abbas is making the mistake of thinking that the International Court of Justice will pay the ersatz "Palestinians" any attention. Israel has never committed "crimes against humanity" or "war crimes" against the ersatz "Palestinians." All sovereign states have an absolute affirmative obligation to defend their borders and their citizens, and Israel is no exception. On the other hand, terrorists are terrorists.
62. this is only the first step
bro ,   canada   (11.30.12)
the journey of Israelis back to Europe and Russia has just started. God did allow you to settle in this holy land 3 thousands years ago but he changed his mind and told the Romans to kick you out. US and its allies played God and brought back to fulfill a prophesy. God will do it again; EU countries have changed sides, us is next.
63. here is what Moshe Feiglin wrote;
Volvi   (11.30.12)
Israel has a simple option in response to the UN upgrade of a "nation" bereft of history that is intent on stealing our Land to non-member state status: Immediate withdrawal from the United Nations. If the UN would know in advance that Israel would respond by withdrawal, this preposterous idea would never have gotten off the ground. The interaction between the United Nations and the State of the Jews has become the central axis of the UN's activity. Without Israel, the UN loses its raison d'etre. From our tiny little corner of the world, from our grasshopper view of all those giants, this seems patently absurd. But a check of the subjects of the majority of Security Council deliberations and decisions makes it impossible to ignore this logic-defying phenomenon: The entire world is obsessed with a tiny state that conducts itself more honorably, democratically and morally than most of the other UN members – and contributes to the world in a vast array of spheres, more than any other country. The UN obsession with Israel is not based on Israel's ethics or actions. It is on an entirely different plane. This is how British intellectuals described their anger at Israel to the dean of the Sapir College, Dr. Ze'ev Tzachor: "We dreamed of a place in which the Book of Books would be written anew in anticipation of the redemption of the world. For you are a treasured nation. The world had great expectations, and look what you have done." (From a Makor Rishon interview written by Meir Uziel). The world anticipates the declaration of liberty that will emerge from Zion. When this anticipation comes up empty-handed, it becomes disappointment and is translated into loss of legitimacy for the existence of a Jewish State on the face of the earth. The other side of the coin is traditional anti-Semitism of all sorts. All the anticipation and hopes from the universal humanistic message of Abraham on the one hand, and all the hatred for and opposition to that message on the other, are now directed at the State of Israel. Whether it likes it or not, Israel will always represent the Jewish message in the eyes of the world. The incessant condemnations, the hypocrisy and the never-ending battles in the various UN committees express more than anything else the dichotomy of the world's deep need for Israel and its fear of its light. After all, the UN cares about Arab human rights as much as it cares about last year's snowflakes, as it has demonstrated with the ongoing catastrophe in Syria. When someone shouts at you, he clearly needs you. Without Israel, the UN loses its meaning and returns to the moral Stone Age, the pre-Abraham world. But Israel is afraid of its own message. So it begs for recognition instead of understanding that if it would proudly bear its message to the world, the nations would vie to be recognized by the Jewish State . Post-Oslo Israel, which with its very own hands gave the keys of connection to the Promised Land to a non-nation, has no case against the world that recognizes this invented entity as a state. The problem is not the UN. We are the problem. The solution is to immediately nullify the Oslo Accords; to prove our complete loyalty to all parts of the Land of Israel and first and foremost: to restore full and exclusive Israeli sovereignty over the Temple Mount. We must declare Israeli sovereignty over all parts of the Land of Israel that are in our hands, as stated in the Likud constitution. And then, we must withdraw from the United Nations. Switzerland managed just fine without being a member of the UN and we will also "survive" at least as well – and probably better – without it. "And many nations will go and say, 'Let us go up to the mountain of G-d and to the house of the G-d of Jacob, and he will teach us his way and we will go on his paths.' For from Zion shall the Torah emanate and the word of G-d from Jerusalem." (Micha 4) From Jerusalem – not from New York.
64. Long Overdue
Steve ,   Tucson, USA   (11.30.12)
Palestinian recognition has been long overdue. America now needs to move away from its tired stance of blind support for Israel and balance its relationships in the Middle East. Well done UN!
65. I hope they go to war with the 9 opposing states
Steve from Raleigh   (11.30.12)
It stands to reason that the peaceful peaceloving palestinians of peace by definition of their own charter have to start mass murdering the people in those 9 states. The abstainers will have to wait a few months.
66. banana republic countries
palestinian   (11.30.12)
I laughed when I saw the banana republics voting for israel. We got real countries to vote for us. Marshal Islands, Micronesia, Nauru and Palau.
67. This is what happens when you lose wars
Drooley   (11.30.12)
Israel has now deliberately lost several wars in a row, showing weakness on every front, except occasionally the rhetorical one. With the latest bow to Pharaoh Hussein and Pharaoh Morsi, the leadership of IL shat all over itself and cause IL to lose much prestige and respect world-wide. So, no surprises then that the nations vote for the perceived "underdog".
68. "with east Jerusalem " as its capital and nothing less
Baruch Shimpshon ,   Springfield IL   (11.30.12)
And there we have it. The Pals are insisting. Nothing less. And if Israel says no, then what? The Pals love to paint themselves into a corner. They should complain to the grand mufti and their bretheren who convinced them to leave, and then stuck them in camps.
69. Ethnic Cleansing
Baruch Shimpshon ,   Springfield IL   (11.30.12)
Abbas has no shame. How can he say these things and keep a straight face? Truly amazing.
70. Creative Math Doug? Another Pal invention.
Baruch shimpshon   (11.30.12)
71. Congratulations Palestine on this historic day.
Joseph Bloughstein   (11.30.12)
May this be giant step towards ending the occupation and achieving peace between between both nations.
72. File suits against Israel
Anshel ,   Canada   (11.30.12)
Well, well, what will stop Israel filing now suits against the Palestinians terrorists, who are blowing up buses, who are shooting rockets at civilian targets in Israel?
73. Fakestinians
Jeffrey Grill ,   Phoenix, U.S.A   (11.30.12)
It is high time that the Israeli government began to invoke the terms and principles specified in the San Remo Declaration. Enough of this nonsense. The charade has to come to an end. The Oslo agreement itself was a violation of International Law vis a vis the San Remo Declaration. Israeli politicians have to muster the courage and temerity to admit that Oslo was a huge mistake. It is time for Israel to reassert full sovereignty over Judea and Samaria. Who cares what the nations of the world say or think.
74. The State of Palestine
Queen D ,   USA   (11.30.12)
I read Ynet all the time and i read many of the readers comments.....All i have to say is Congrats to the Palestinians. To Many of the people commenting above GET OVER IT (dont be soar loser) the world has spoken.
75. 9 Brave Nations
emanon ,   USA   (11.30.12)
I applaud the 9 brave nations that had the courage to do the right thing and stand against terrorism.
76. Congratulation???
#52 ,   usa/ISRAEL   (11.30.12)
I wondered if you ever opened the Bible to read their future and people like you who are against the people of the Almighty. I guaranty you, not much blessings are coming to you guys.
77. Ethnic cleansing Arabs?
USA   (11.30.12)
Puhleeeeese....with the huge ratio of MiddleEast Arab population vs. Jewish? What ethnic cleansing???? What a bunch of lying bastards!!!! It's the Islamic goal to ethnically cleanse the tiny population of Jews (compared to the Arabs + Iranians) out of the Middle East so that they can get their global jihad BS rolling!!!
78. Tayfun
David Israel ,   New York, USA   (11.30.12)
1. This makes the Palestinian authority responsible of every rocket that falls into Israel. The minute Hamas will start launching rockets Israel will blame the Palestinian authority and Palestinian authority will try to control Hamas which will end up with internal problems. Essentially it is to early for Mahmoud Abbas to declare victory. 2. Israel had already agreed to a peace agreement based on the 1967 borders in 2001 by passing a resolution in the Knesset. If Arafat had taken the offer and established peace at that time the Pal3estinian state would have been 11 years old by now. Israel did not lose anything.
79. to 36
Jennie ,   Israel/US   (11.30.12)
How nice of you to mention your "suppport" and your Israeli wife...But your understanding of our plight and our security, remains as it was, non-existent...Whose apartheid are you talking about ? Or doesn't Israel have the right to defend their innocent citizens from endless missiles & airstrikes ? Do our chiildren need to be spending most of their days in bomb shelters ? Why ? This is what is ruining our country ! Do you have any idea about what we do for palestinians on a daily basis ? We give them their electricity, water, food, medicine, etc...etc...Even as we "speak"... It seems, that with friends like you, we don't need enemies...
80. To Sarah B
Philip K ,   Wexford, Ireland   (11.30.12)
Do you believe this development at the UN is a good thing or bad thing. For you?
81. Will Disneyland also get UN observer status?
Eyal ,   Israel   (11.30.12)
Mazal tov Palis. You and you have so much to celebrate: 1) Pallywood is the first virtual UN non-member non-state 2) Pallywood is a third world basket case depending on international aid. 3) Hamas is celebrating the "victory" in the Gaza rubble. 4) Women and non-Moslems are treated like third class non-citizens. 5) People with education and brains are leaving "Pallywood".
82. #52 Yeah congratulation Pallywood
Menachem ,   Israel   (11.30.12)
the most recognized virtual non-state in the world. The only real thing about Pallywood is that it is a third world basketcase despotic regime which oppresses women, children and non-Moslems.
83. Peace
Adil ,   The Hague, Holland   (11.30.12)
what we witnessed here tonight, was history in the making. i call out to all israeli's and palestinians to settle your differences once and for all and make peace. palestine excists as of today, there is no turning back. and to all the jews who are not living in israel, but in germany, the usa etc etc, why are you always the only ones who don't want to make peace? you only shout and say things like annex judea and samaria. what is wrong with you? lighten up will you..
84. GOOD BARGAIN WITH ISRAEL (PALESTINIAN)
dr palestinian   (11.30.12)
why are you fraid of such result??? are you planning to occupy us for ever? is it fair?!!! we have rights, lands, degnity, flag being lost. they have to be back sooner or later. so could you please shorten the way, the suffering, the ..................etc. enough is enough. think seriouly just for once, you never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity, yaser arafat and abu mazen the only two persons who have the ability to make peace but you dont have the bravery figure even rabin was killed. i strongly advise to stop ignoring and not recognizing our rights. THE BARGAIN we'll not go for icc just recognise our rights and every thing would be ok
85. 9 states voted against
joe ,   vienna   (11.30.12)
Among them: Panama - woww! The Marshal Islands -OMG! Palau, Nauru, and Micronesia - LOL! The not sooo important rest of 181 nations of this world is watching Your behaviour!
86. goyim
Leviatana ,   Kynžvart, Czech Rep.   (11.30.12)
We are also goyim...
87. countries against Israel
y-man ,   budapest   (11.30.12)
Voting against Israel from Europe: Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Scandinavia, Ireland, Greece, Spain & Portugal, France, Belgium and surprisingly Italy. The "neutral" Swiss also voted against Israel. Hitler's birthplace, Austria also voted against Israel.
88. #52 Sorry, but...
Alex   (11.30.12)
There's no palestinian "state", there's no government and they have no borders. They might get it if they cut out lies and whining and joins peace talks with Israel...
89. Ron Prosor speech
Ravit ,   New York   (11.30.12)
How come you don't have the video in the English version of the article. It much mor important here than it it is in the Hebrew version (where you do have it)
90. #52 is really bad at math?
Alex ,   Canada   (11.30.12)
138/188 = 94% for you?
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