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General Assembly recognizes Palestine as observer state
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 30.11.12, 00:19
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91. For Peace To Exist Israel Must Lead
David ,   Sacramento, USA   (11.30.12)
This new resolution changes little because we see that the culture remains the same: There is a culture of hatred and intolerance and this is not a foundation for peace. Israel must lead in this regard. They must remember their national root, where they agreed to a mutual guarantee that united them together as one man with one heart. This is what will eventually lead to peace: Not military might, U.S. support, etc. but Israel living in a proper way in the nation and with respect to the rest of the world. Then instead of nations blaming Israel, they will praise them for showing the world how to live today in a completely interconnected and interdependent world.
92. #66 "Palestine" is not even a banana republic.
Jake   (11.30.12)
93. #85, 181 nations includes 41 abstentions
Jake   (11.30.12)
and several absent. An abstention is not an endorsement of "Palestine".
94. PA's YK bid
Pentti Hentilä ,   Finland   (11.30.12)
When Soviet Union attacked to Finland 30.11.1939, on the previous day Stalin said to Kliment Voroshilov: God has made a mistake when He placed Finns to that place. But I can rectify God's mistake by transfering Finns to Siberia (Ville Tikkanen: Kohtalon Divisioonat (Divisions of Fate), page 16, printed 2009). Didn't succeed. In the same way opponents of Israel signal with their acts and words: God has made a mistake when He has placed Jews to their own Land. We rectify God's mistake. Useless trouble. Don't succeed. Reader from Finland
95. Decision lacks internatioanl validity / Zeev Jabotinsky
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (11.30.12)
For the past few weeks, headlines in Israel have warned that Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas' upcoming request for nonmember state recognition at the U.N. General Assembly will do serious damage to Israel. They are, however, mistaken. Each U.N. member country signed the international treaty known as the U.N. Charter, which came into effect in 1945. The U.N. can act only within the framework of this pact, and any decision made by any body operating within the U.N. framework that contradicts the charter is invalid. Abbas' decision to petition the U.N. Thursday evening contradicts Article 80 of the charter and has no validity. In the absence of any validity, Abbas cannot use it in the way the media is claiming. Experts in international law have all decided this: Canadian lawyer Dr. Jacques Gauthier; Canadian former Justice Minister Professor Irwin Cotler; former Foreign Ministry legal adviser and former U.S. ambassador Dr. Meir Rosen, who was among those who drafted the Camp David peace treaty with Egypt; attorney Howard Griff from Jerusalem; and Professor Eugene Rostow, who was dean of Yale Law School for 11 years, all agree with this analysis of Abbas' move. All are recognized experts in international law who specialize in the legal status of the Palestinian Mandate. How does Article 80 of the U.N. Charter render Abbas' decision invalid? Article 80 is part of an international treaty and is subject to international law. It preserves the rights of states and peoples, which includes the rights of the Jewish people to have sovereignty over the entire Land of Israel, unless a mechanism is established, based on mutual agreement between all countries and parties involved, to turn the Mandate mechanism into a trusteeship. There was a window of about three years to do this, according to Chapter 12 of the U.N. Charter. That window was between Oct. 24, 1945 — the day the U.N. Charter went into effect — and May 14-15, 1948, when the Jewish people exercised their sovereign right to declare a state, immediately following the end of the British Mandate over the Land of Israel. That window has long passed, and no mutual agreement was reached then that would derogate from the Jewish rights of sovereignty. With the closing of this window, the rights of the Jewish people in the framework of the British Mandate became rooted in law. Those rights were defined in the Land of Israel Mandate, a legal document and part of international law. The mandate granted only the Jews the irrevocable right to sovereignty over all the territory from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea. This right has never been altered by international law and is still in effect today. As a result, the U.N. does not have the ability to detract from these rights, and any attempt to do so is contrary to international law. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's late father, Professor Benzion Netanyahu, was a member of the Jewish delegation to the U.N., whose mission was to protect the rights of Jewish settlements in the Land of Israel under the Mandate from any erosion in an uncertain world. Article 80 was a result of that delegation's work. It is only appropriate that his son should now use the tool the father designed. The time to use it for the goal for which it was intended is now.
96. Israeli Ambassador Ron Prosor’s Speech to the UN General Ass
Volvi   (11.30.12)
http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/11/29/full-transcript-israeli-ambassador-ron-prosors-speech-to-the-un-general-assembly/
97. Ron Prosor's Fabulous speech...
N.L ,   Israel   (11.30.12)
As always. Highly praised everywhere. Whereas the other little fella...
98. #89
Dan   (11.30.12)
Says it BEST Note the video of the little guy though. (Beware of the little guys, as we know) Our problem 'ain't the pally mobs. Our problem is, as always, dear ol' YNET and its clones, and their warped views of us all and our beautiful country. Such power and so mis-used. Yawn.
99. hahaha Sarah B, where are you?
(11.30.12)
100. Who voted against?
Marco ,   Spain   (11.30.12)
Panama, Marshal Islands, Micronesia, Nauru and Palau...hahahaha I was watching CNN, and I could see jubilation on the faces of the Palestinian delegation and utter despair on the face your UN representative...What a contrast that is a sign of things to come...lol
101. #18 Sarah B
Marco ,   Spain   (11.30.12)
can't you read the signs that your end is near? In the past you could defeat several armies in a few hours, however since Hassan Nasrallah revealed to the world that Israel is weaker than a spider's web, you've been going through one humiliation after another. I would drop Israel from my address if I were you, just to be safe...
102. break the 4,000-year-old bond
observer ,   Egypt   (11.30.12)
ever hear or read about the Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru and Palau unless after a vote at the United Nations? Australia, the third of the six usual suspect countries abstained, why? because as colonial based state, the Australians know that history excuses don't create a nation.
103. 68% left (fled) without setting eye on Israeli soldier
observer ,   Egypt   (11.30.12)
In 2006, Jewish leaders did not ask their people to leave, but 70% of them ran away from the North in fear of Hizbollah missiles without ever setting eyes on a Lebanese guerrilla.
104. Math...
Younes ,   USA   (11.30.12)
Arabic numbers: 1234567890 Algebra: Arabic Alcohol: Arabic Candy: Arabic Algorithm: Arabic The canon of medicine : Arabic The first elephant auto- clock : Arabic Wind mill : Arabic Magnifier / glasses : Arabic Camera: Arabic And lot more... Do your research.
105. World changed!
Ziad- Palestine ,   Canada   (11.30.12)
Just few years ago most of world's countries supported Israel in everything, nowadays, Netenyaho and Liberman spoil the image of Israel in the world. great acheivement for Palestine... Viva and wish Netenyaho and his Leberman to continue ruling Israel, it is the best way to get more achievenemts...
106. 81 Eyal, Israel: No, Disneyland only issues medical licenses
Rivkah   (11.30.12)
and driver's licenses.
107. Why do the heathens rage?!
Taz Man ,   USA   (11.30.12)
Do you think God cares what these heathen fools do or say? Man plans...God laughs--remember? God's Word promises the, soon, decimation, of the Palestinian lie, along with many of the surrounding Muslims; Israel's landmass and fortunes will be greatly enhanced. We all know the UN is anti-Semitic and evil to its foundation; God will fix this, also. So, Israel...don't worry...be happy: God is on your side! "Let the heathens rage...let them imagine a vain thing..." God bless, Israel and His Jerusalem!!! A Christian Zionist
108. Israel Should Quit the UN
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (11.30.12)
The Goyim do whatever they can to weaken and afflict us whenever they can. Their aim is to minimize our influence and presence in the world. The real friends we have are too few to make a difference in this organization. We would be better off being independent of them and free. This is not the ideal, but in the current atmosphere of international latent anti-Semitism, it would be our best response to their idiocy.
109. AN OPEN LETTER TO UN President & World leaders
Dan ,   Israel   (11.30.12)
AN OPEN LETTER TO UN President HH Ban Kimoon and all heads of every nation on this planet First of all I congratulate Mr. President of the UN for killing the UN. For he is the one to allow a nation which is not a nation; it is just a group – a terrorist group if you like some title for it. UN was formed to create harmony amongst the nations; to see no fights and every nation lived in peace with each other! On Palestinian's first motto is to "Destroy Israel". Wow; Mr. Moon you agreed to destroy Israel! Your next move should be to send the "world army" to carry out the job; since coward Palestinians can only harm individual citizens of Israel; to the nation they can only bark with support of their kind and their supporters. Congratulations to Mahmud Abbas; for spirited speech based on complete lye; you mentioned about what Israel did; you cleanly forgot about what your people did; actually "you did". I wonder if you were representing "Palestinians or "Fatah" asking for votes! (You have factions which are not under your control! Since outside world is concerned you are in charge of every Palestinian. If you were begging for votes you should do it from Ramallah not from UN platform.) To the world leaders: Have you ever seen the world map? Mark the nations in colors as follows; Hindu and Buddhist countries in pink; Christian countries in red; Muslim countries in dark green and Jewish countries in Blue. Now look at the map; you will find Jewish country is drowned in Green color! Can this only and lonely tiny nation afford the aggression as mentioned by Abbas? This nation merely defends itself. To non green color nations: Its Israel today; tomorrow is your turn. Do not forget the history. In Just 1640 years greenery is spread almost half of the world. In next 3 to 500 years the world will be green. Are you voting them for oil? How long will it last? To the Palestinian people: We the Jews want live in peace; leave us alone; both of us will be the happiest people on this earth. Do you want to know something about our soldiers? When they are called for war; "they cry"; not because they are afraid; they are frightened because they know they may harm civilians from your side; since your soldiers are hiding amongst innocent you. Do you want the conflict? I am sure you don't; but your leaders want it! Because they receive lot of money from all over the world. Do you know something; since creation of Israel how much money "your leaders" received? In that amount you should be the richest nation on earth! Every one of you should have a comfortable house for free and pension for survival throughout your lives! What you receive today or for that matter so called your solders? Where all that money goes? Do some rough calculations and take a stock your own lives. There is nothing to celebrate for you when Abbas won the majority votes in the UN; again look at the map painted as mentioned above; "you or any of the green nation put anything on UN table will be passed without second thought."
110. UN resolution
Steve a ,   Manchester England   (11.30.12)
So turkey will therefore enable the Kurds to have a state of their own ?
111. Nevertheless...
Keren ,   IL-BR   (11.30.12)
Nevertheless, the move opens the door for the ISRAEL to file suits against PA in the International Court of Justice.
112. Indeed...
Keren ,   IL-BR   (11.30.12)
I can not see the practical use for Israel being a member of UN. Actually,what happens is the opposite -Israel has gotten more and more damaged by such an association. It´s overdue the time to rethink that and change that.
113. The State of affairs
Michael ,   Kokhav Ya'ir, Israel   (11.30.12)
1. This changes nothing. 2. The PLO hasn't won a legitimate election to represent the Arabs in the area. 3. Israel conquered these lands from Egypt and Jordan and only with them can we make peace. Then, if those countries want to give their land to the PLO or Hamas, so be it but we won't let them destroy us. Ever. 4. We will never give up Jerusalem no matter what, no way, no how. 5. The PLO, living in the area of Judea and Samaria will always need permission to import or export any goods. Those are the facts on the ground even with a State. 6. Gaza is not controlled by the PLO and they don't represent those people. Hamas does. When the PLO wants to talk, we've been waiting a long time. Still waiting...
114. Colossal nonsense
Istvan ,   BUDAPEST HUNGARY   (11.30.12)
A new argument for those antisemites, who want to destroy Israel. Mr Prosor should have propose to observer states for Kurdistan and Tibet, not to mention dozens of other peoples, who also want to be UNO members.
115. UN hypocrites!
PaulS ,   LiverpoolUK   (11.30.12)
Isnt it ironic that the UN has voted for East Jerusalem to be the capital of palestine yet they won't recognise Jerusalem a city that is synonymous with the Jewish faith as the capital of Israel!
116. Ziad no 105
(11.30.12)
What acheivement ? You won the vote in the currupt UN4MUSLIMS. You know very well that ISRAEL have no chance whatsoever in the UN4MUSLIMS because it is controlled by Muslims/Islamic countries, plus 3world, and then you have the European which needs the Arabs for many things such as OIL, INVESTMENT, BUSINESS, AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS JEWS ARE MINORITY 15/18 MILLION JEWS WORLDWIDE INCLUDING ISRAEL, AGAINST 1,600 PLUS MUSLIMS/ISLAM. If you do not understand this calculation, then ask a Canadian school boy/girl of the age of 5 to explain the difference between 15/18 to 1,600. Ziad at the end of the day the ISRAELI GOVERNMENT will be the real boss and not repeat NOT UN4MUSLIMS
117. Sadness
Bertram ,   London, UK   (11.30.12)
How immensely depressing to witness self-harm as Israel begins the process of sinking under the weight of its collective sulk. Maybe Israel will survive economically and, perhaps, politically, although internal strife is as bad as ever. However, socially, culturally and , most importantly, morally, Israel is in grave danger. When its legitimacy depends on the denial of the quest for national self-determination of another group - however illegitimate it is judged to be - it loses all credibility. (Modern) Israel should be proud of its achievements in the course of its brief history. It is a country of many talents, of scientific advance, of artistic prowess. But, in not supporting the UN vote Israel, to adapt a phrase, has once more taken an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
118. a pyrrhic 'Victory based on lies.
tiki ,   belgium   (11.30.12)
As the saying goes "when something looks to good to be true, it usual is", is something the ''Observer Palestinians" are about to find out. May they enjoy their Victory, tomorrow is another day.....without a state!
119. Prophecy of Zechariah
manoj ,   India   (11.30.12)
Zechariah 12:3 says. "All nations of the earth are gathered against Jerusalem." Today, all nations voted to take half Jerusalem from descendants of King David. Is this prophecy coming true? If so, we can read the remaining verses of the prophecy. Especially 9th verse: "Lord says, I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem." Lord does not lie. The whole world seems to be in trouble. Lord save us!
120. General Assembly recognizes Palestine as observer state
Aleksander ,   Danmark   (11.30.12)
Mr. Tayfun Mr. Tayfun You seem to be very happy for Mr. Lieberman and the General Assembly recognizes Palestine as observer state – but is always I boomerang for things –one of dem is that the next General Assembly recognizes KURDISTAN as observer state regards Alex
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