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A word to Roger Waters
Lilac Sigan
Published: 21.04.13, 10:52
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31. I don't agree that much with all these excuses
Yossef   (04.21.13)
I want Israel to annex the area C, I want Israel ask Jordan to give the jordanian citizenship to the Arabs living in area A and B, and gives Jordan to rule there, as an agreement between Israel and Jordan. The Arabs living in Israel and in area C will be israeli with full civil rights, and that's it. Gaza will be independent and given to Egypt.
32. # 30...Makina is right on the money...
Edithann ,   USA   (04.21.13)
So what has your G-d written lately that makes your claim valid today? You're wrong!!... It was not written by any Higher Authority as there never was any Higher Authority .it was written by the same mentality and authorities as present day Colonialists looking to exploit just as Makina stated...Those days are gone thankfully, but you seem to be the last holdout with no justification…That myth only works for thieving criminals to justify their genocidal crimes... TATA
33. I got it ;) ,...
split ,   US   (04.21.13)
According to zionist line not only Waters but the rest of the civilised World don't get it except them and those who peddle this crap ,...
34. Mr. Waters should be water-boarded.
Moishe Pupik ,   Miami Beach   (04.21.13)
What an anti-semite indeed!
35. #19 So what is Britain still doing in ireland
Jay ,   Israel   (04.21.13)
and how about the Falklands. What the hell has the UK to do with an Island off the coast of Argentina 1000s of miles away. Yup same old UK just weaker and couldn't hold on to its "possessions" so it had no choice but to give them up but holding on like grim death to what it still has.
36. #19 Makina from today sunny but cold NY
David Israel ,   New York, USA   (04.21.13)
Can you please explain to me how the UK imperialism that expanded all around the world so that they were called the empire where the sun never sets on, can compare with the tiny state of Israel that is merely the size of New Jersey?
37. Drugs
Mymicz ,   USA, Reno   (04.21.13)
Because we should all get out political views from someone who has done more drugs than Jerry Garcia and checked himself inti an insane asylum for it!
38. The conflict is one between the Muslim-Arab world as a whole
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (04.21.13)
local and regional alike, and the sovereign nation-state of the Jewish people. It is not simply an "Israeli Palestinian" conflict, thus a bit more complex than most think.
39. Roger drown in Waters...
Yossef   (04.21.13)
40. Us and Them
Avi Mizrachi ,   Tel Aviv   (04.21.13)
Waters should really go back and listen to the lyrics of his own iconic song, 'Us and Them', before choosing sides. Us, and them And after all we're only ordinary men. Me, and you. God only knows it's not what we would choose to do. Forward he cried from the rear and the front rank died. And the general sat and the lines on the map moved from side to side. Black and blue And who knows which is which and who is who. Up and down. But in the end it's only round and round. Haven't you heard it's a battle of words The poster bearer cried.
41. He never made the top 50 musicians list.
Dave ,   Hartford USA   (04.21.13)
The guy was never at the very top of the talent list- his band made him- not the other way around. As for his opinions, he's a tool for the leftwing useful idiots. I guess that makes him the king of the idiots. I thought Stevie had more backbone and the ability to decide things for himself- but he's getting old, too. Let the old farts get together and think they have some impact on the world. Never did, never will.
42. waters you f'ing fool
Jim Shortz ,   NYC, USA   (04.21.13)
over the hill dumbazz.... waters I will personally knock you out
43. Truth is snti-semetic. israeli react to
(04.21.13)
the truth like vampires to holy water.
44. Whats complicated
John ,   Israel   (04.21.13)
I don't see what's so complicated about this debate. Jews came to Palestine and colonised it. They forced the existing population to flee and did not let them return. They took their land and houses and ensured they would always be a minority. This is not a two-sided argument. This is a massive injustice. Please note; the pain you feel in your head when your read these facts and the pain you feel when you find out that waters - like the vast majority of humanity - supports the palestians, is called cognitive dissonance and occurs when reality challenges your deluded world view.
45. To: No. 31
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (04.21.13)
You're a little light on fact. Courtesy of Jordan's 1954 Citizenship Law, all West Bank Arabs enjoy Jordanian citizenship. It was granted to them and their progeny irrevocably in 1954. Go home and study. Israel will annex Judea and Samaria, and repatriate its Jordanian citizens to Jordan. None of them will be invited to remain in Israel. We don't want them, their violence and their terrorism. We're going to send them to Jordan, where they belong. And if the little Iraqi king and his Kuwaiti bride don't like it -- tough.
46. Reply to number 9. partition plan
Sherlock Holmes ,   London England   (04.21.13)
Post World War I the Ottoman [and Austro-Hungarian] Empire [s] were split into states based on self-determination of national groups. The Ottoman province of Palestine was to be divided into two states for two peoples -- Jews and Arabs, who both lived in Palestine. In 1920 Britain, who held the League of nations Mandate for Palestine, gave 77% of :Palestine to create the Arab Kingdom of [Trans]Jordan, leaving 23% for the area of the proposed Jewish homeland. In 1937 and again in 1947 there were attempts to divide the 23% between two states, one Jewish, one Arab, in addition to the 77% of Palestine already given to the Arabs. Jews owned quite a lot of land, as did Arabs, but quite a lot was 'state land' previously owned by the Ottman Empire, and now the British Mandate. As you know, 20% of Israelis are Arabs who have equal legal rights, while the PA wants a state that is free of any Jews, even though Jews have lived in the West Bank since Biblical times, well over a thousand years before the Arabs and Islam arrived.
47. Number 35. Irerland and Falklands
Sherlock Holmes ,   London England   (04.21.13)
First, 54 of the states that made up the British Empire [ Canada, Australia, India etc.] are still united in the British Commonwealth of Nations. Second. The people of Northern Ireland voted repeatedly to remain part of the UK and the Irish Republic and Northern Ireland have resolved this dispute. Third, the people on the Falkland Islands have been British for many generations and have repeatedly voted to remain British, like Gibraltar, the West Indies etc.
48. Jarda is Right!
After Burn(ingMan)SF ,   San Francisco, CA   (04.21.13)
it is the biblical homeland of the Jews. I am not Jewish, and I dont really know much about Israel. but I do know this. 1. Jews are the indigenous people from that area. 2. Muslims weren't even created until the 7th century, meaning they must have come to the land atleast 1000 years later. 3. after world war 2, many Jews had no other option but to emigrate to Palestine mandate with absolutely no possessions. and from my knowledge Jews and Muslims both were residing in Palestine mandate at the time. both Muslims and Jews were offered partition and the Jews accepted, the Muslims rejected. so the Jews declared independence. and I might add, the 2 state solution everyone is seeking now, was only rejected by one side at the time, so I'm a little baffled as to why Israel seems to be blamed for almost everything. but anyways, the Jews were attacked by I think 6 or 7 Arab countries, with their direct goal of being annihilation of the new state. oh and let me add that ive read numerous books on a man named ali-husseini the grand mufti. I recommend anyone reading that to get a better understanding of what the Palestinians were being told to do call then. husseini teamed up with Hitler to join in on the genocide of the Jews. now I'm all about 2 states for 2 people. and I judge every person individually. there's always fanatics on every side, but I gotta add that I have allot of secular liberal Palestinian friends, and I am yet to hear them be accepting of a Jewish state anywhere in Palestine. on the contrary, my secular liberal Jewish friends, never cease in speaking privately and publicly about peace among the Palestinians and Israelis. and if the Palestinians consider Palestine being their land because they acquired it sometime after the Jews settled there, then by their logic, since Israel has settled there after the Palestinians acquired it, then that makes it Israel's. but since I believe the US belongs to the native Americans because they are the indigenous people of the land, then there's no way I can not state the truth that Palestine belongs to the Jews, since they are the indigenous people to the land. I'm not a hippocrate. but what I find scary are people now claiming that the Jews never once settled in the land of Palestine, which is utter BS, and most of the time that I hear that claim, is coming straight from the Palestinian authority, the ones that most progressives like myself (but not me) keep saying that Israel needs to be willing to make peace. I think the world needs to.pressure the Palestinians, since they are the ones that have rejected peace numerous times, not Israel
49. 26 ,...
split ,   US   (04.21.13)
"Land on which the Jews were at least known to be the indigenous people" - According to your fairy tales ;) ,...
50. To: No. 43
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (04.21.13)
Do you believe in vampires? Well, that about says it all ....
51. To: No. 32
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (04.21.13)
Your idiocy knows no bounds. Our claim is as valid today as it was thousands of years ago. We neither need nor require second editions. I feel sorry for the emptiness in your life, but it is of your making, and you will need to find a way to deal with it. Something other than blaming the Jewish people and the State of Israel for all the ills of the world and inventing so-called "genocidal" crimes. Look to yourself, Edithann. Are you of German or Polish descent? Is that why you hate yourself so much and seek to blame the Jews? You are truly a pathetic excuse for a human being. I hope you find a way to break free of the demons that obviously hound you, but you are going to have to do so without blaming innocent Jews or the State of Israel. If you're that unhappy, I suggest suicide. It will put you out of your -- and our -- misery.
52. To: No. 49
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (04.21.13)
Only a complete nincompoop like you could continue to deny the written and archaeological evidence which proves that the Jews are the only identifiable people indigenous to the area. It's only a "fairy tale" in your dim and highly suspect so-called "mind."
53. To: Jim at No. 42
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (04.21.13)
He cannot help himself. He's an alcoholic, a heroin addict, a cocaine addict, and dropped out of school at the age of 15. Don't waste your fists on Roger Waters. He is beyond redemption, and no one pays attention to him anyway. I mean, really -- when was the last time you had an in-depth conversation with a drugged-out drunk? Did you see him being interviewed by Charlie Rose? Rose was embarrassed to the core. As well he should have been. Waters almost fell off the chair twice, and mumbled and slurred his words. At one point, he actually fell asleep. He's a walking, talking piece of junkie junk.
54. Full of myths = anti-Israel
Blunt   (04.21.13)
The Western champions of the Palestinians have to discard their obsolete myths. This support hurts the Palestinians. The real support is taking care of the nation building to reach a standard compatible with a free and democratic regime. Constructive support must liberate the Palestinians from the violence promoting leaders and allies.
55. Syd Barrett Was the Sane One
Bill ,   New York, USA   (04.21.13)
56. #49 and coins, pottery shards, remains of cities,
A ,   Belgium   (04.21.13)
all the things the "palestinians" would love to claim as their own, but cannot as there never was a "palestinian" culture or history, and in spite of their lies and distortions of history, that fact remains. So since your talkbacks are nothing more than national socialist party wannabee ravings, perhaps you should consider helping your colleage up there in Moose Manure, Minn. with his enlightening occupation of emptying bedpans. Birds of a feather, you know. TATA!
57. Jordan is the illegal settlement, because:
BUTSeriously ,   Sydney   (04.22.13)
Jordan is also in violation of the only condition of its creation: "It will be a historic compromise to grant two states in Palestine - one for the Jews and one for the Arabs" - Churchill. So why are Brits accounting a 3-state in the same land as a 2-state? Why are Brits not blaming Britain for creating Jordan in the land allocated by Britain for 'ONE ONLY JEWISH STATE"? Why are Brits not charging Jordan for refusing entry to Arabs in the West Bank? Why is Britainistan happening?
58. Get to the point , pinhead ,...
split ,   US   (04.22.13)
There's nothing, zero, zilch a brick a coin or any evidence to prove that David or Solomon or their mighty kingdoms ever existed ,...
59.  56. #49 and coins, pottery shards, remains of cities,
split ,   US   (04.22.13)
A nameless pottery shards, remains of cities claimed to suppport your so called a God given right to that part of the world and your fairy tales in the neighborhood where at least a couple of thousands years older architectual structures, monuments, records and artifacts survived to be studied and admired today ? ,...
60. No point engaging with waters
Harvey ,   London   (04.22.13)
I work with UK based organisations promoting Israel and countering the local BDS movements . The one thing I have come to understand is that there is absolutely no point in trying to engage with individuals such as Waters and the various NGOs they belong to . Simply put , they are not open to persuasion , to balance or the idea that there are two sides to the dispute . They are not receptive because their primary cause is not the Palestinians but to see the dismantlement of Israel . They simply cannot bear to see the existence of an independent Jewish state . Their rejection takes a number of forms . Some will be forthright and demand a single state , others will be a little less overt and say yes 2SS is good but then add the caveat of RoR for millions of Palestinians to pre 67 Israel thus negating the need for a separate Palestinian state . All of these people Waters included would consider themselves to be humanitarians but their vision , in the certainty that Israelis would reject such an absurdity, would of course result in a open civil war the likes of which would make Syria seem like a playground scrap . For the waters of this world that is not important . It's the end result that counts no matter how many dead Israelis and Palestinians it takes . Waters takes part in a kangaroo court of no significance called the Russell tribunal . It is a mock trial where the participants act as prosecution , judge and jury . There is no defence because Israel has no defence . Waters complained recently regarding his cancelled participation in a Jewish lecture on Israel while barring free speech in his own debates . Waters is not to be engaged with , only to use all means to counter the pernicious effect of his malign objectives .
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