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Show some responsibility
Smadar Shir
Published: 18.08.13, 07:30
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1. Typical Secular, One Way, Socialist World View
Ariel ben Yochanan ,   Kfar Tapuah, Efraim   (08.18.13)
B"H - People vaccinate when the risk of vaccination is smaller than that of the non-vaccination. Polio is so rare that right now vaccinating is riskier for the individual child and parents are responsible for their own children. Asking for sanctions against tem is effectively curbing their parental rights, which is outright barbaric, typical of totalitarian regimes. The author has to accept that the same way I can't impose Torah on everyone, he cannot impose his materialistic vaccinations on my children for what he sees as a common good. You decide for your children, I decide for mine and if you don’t like it I will pretend to teach them Torah, the spiritual vaccination par excellence for the good and well being of the whole nation.
2. Headlice and Polio are two different things
Scott ,   Haifa   (08.18.13)
At the same time we don't need a police state to punish people for freedom of choice. In many cases there is much irresponsibility involved for current Polio vaccine refusal. But for those who do their research, there is much information on the dangers of enforced vaccination programs, and the big bucks that keep drug companies manipulating the public. It is a touchy issue. There needs to be freedom of choice and not compulsion. The pertussis whooping cough vaccine is very controversial for example, read the book, "Shot in the Dark". It's benefits are questionable, and its dangers are proven.
3. Smadar, the problem is you
Non Jewish immigrant ,   Haifa   (08.18.13)
And people like you who are always patronizing people and dictate us what we should or not do
4. Complications of vaccine vs complications of disease
Renee ,   Somers, NY   (08.18.13)
It seems to me that death by polio is rather severe complication. Paralysis is no walk in the park either. Literally. It boggles my mind that people in this day and age need to be told to get the polio vaccine.
5. You're blaming the wrong people
Kat ,   Tel Aviv   (08.18.13)
Smadar, the kids who are being vaccinated with OPV by this current campaign are the kids who were already vaccinated as babies with the IPV. They are already vaccinated. The only reason they need to be re-vaccinated is to protect those parents who refused to vaccinate their babies, and are now unprotected. It is THOSE people who need to be blamed. Why should I be sanctioned if I don't want to give my daughter (who had all her routine shots) a vaccine no longer given in the western world (OPV) in order to protect the minority of parents didn't want to vaccinate their babies?
6. It is safe
Eveliina ,   Luvia, Finland   (08.18.13)
I have been vaccinated against polio as a child and then we had those sugar cubes with the polio germs when I was something like 8 years old. No side effects at all. So it is safe to take and important too.
7. 6 Evelina, Finland: The CDC in Atlanta ADMITS there is
Rivkah   (08.18.13)
CANCER virus in the injectable polio vaccine which is why so many children are getting leukemia. It is good for business. The symbol for medicine is the old symbol for commerce: two snakes wrapped around a pole.
8. Pay some poor person to have his/her child vaccinated twice,
Rivkah   (08.18.13)
pretending it is your child is my advice to avoid the vaccines that are a toxic brew to reduce the world population.
9. Not vaccinated, no school.
Wise Saba ,   Western Negev   (08.18.13)
No proof of a child being vaccinated, not allowed to return to school or gan, period!
10. #6 it is statistical
(08.18.13)
All Israeli children (except people in the Muslim sector who refused because they believed Imams) are immunized with weakened polio virus. They cannot become ill, but can be carriers. The new immunization drive is to give the weakened virus: if it works the person cannot be a carrier, but there is some small chance that they will get sick. To convince parents that the vaccination is safe all that Health Minister German has to do is pledge that if even one child gets ill from polio thanks to her vaccination, she will give all her money and property to the victim's family and she will voluntarily go to jail for 10 years.
11. i agree with #3
(08.18.13)
Smadar, the problem is not the circumcision. This is nothing to be ashamed of. Please go to couples therapy with your husband and you can solve those problems.
12. Here we go again,,,
Linda ,   New Haven, Conn.   (08.18.13)
picture of these black peoples,,,, Israel just what do you want, what ever evil you got planned with injecting these peoples with viruses,,,,,,,, it ain't gonna work, injecting these peoples with viruses, like in Uganda and others with placebos,,,, it ain't gonna work,, HaShem sees/saw this,,,, that is,,,,, if you believe in HaShem,,,, but it ain't gonna work.
13. I Remember Polio
Christy ,   Boston, US   (08.18.13)
I was school-age when the first polio vaccine was available. I remember kids who got polio. Don't know one person who had a bad reaction to Polio Vaccine. My group was the first in my city to get it. The reason polio is no longer a threat is because everyone was vaccinated. It was law - no vaccine = no school. Polio is eradicated by denying it a place in everyone via vaccine. Start skipping the shots and you're inviting it back into your home, neighborhood, country, etc.. Look at the vids on the Internet showing how we dealt with Polio before the vaccine. Look at how those who caught it suffered.
14. Agree 100 percent
Aviela ,   Migron RC, Israel   (08.18.13)
And poster 1, you are talking out your behind, dear. My immunized son caught mumps, missing the crucial beginning weeks of high school because of the healthier-than-thou parents that refused to immunize. You're free not to immunize, but I wish those who choose that path would be confined to their homes. It's just not okay to endanger the rest of us!
15. Smadar, check your facts!!!
Maria ,   sweden   (08.18.13)
In Sweden its is voluntary to vaccinate your child!
16. #6 eveliina
2Mad ,   גולה בצרפת   (08.18.13)
If it didn't hurt - it didn't work. As expensive as those shots are, you could have been immunized with tap-water. As it is 100% harmless, you should go for another shot, and again, until it works.
17. #8 not disappointed
2Mad ,   גולה בצרפת   (08.18.13)
when a fool hit the bottom, he has nowhere to go but up - to bring a shovel.
18. Something is not right here, stinks to high hell
Robert ,   Wash. D.C.   (08.18.13)
Satan always has and goes after children, the younger generation, something stinks to high hell here with this Polio scare sh-t,,,,,, I remember here in the states in the early 50's and 60's where parents were getting their children's tonsils taken out, they were slicing up children as fast as they could be born,, because they caught colds,, come to find out, the tonsils are/were a miniature lymphatic gland/filter of sorts that actually works with the immune system to protect the body from diseases. These parents are sending their children to slaughter. You don't/won't have to wait a year for 7 months to see the damage to these children's frail bodies from this assault of a "VIRUS" , these vaccinated children will show signs in just weeks after these viruses are put in these defenseless bodies whether orally or injected/vaccinated ,,, just watch how food is digested, and those weened of breastfeeding how they salavitate when eating, the body wo't benefit from the nutrients in the food, these children will have eating disorders, poor digestion, f--cked up immune systems etc., etc. I see fowl in this systemic targeting of these children by some polio scare and a greedy pharmacutical company,,,,, and again why the black mother and child in the picture again? Something is not right here and stinks to high hell,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I'm a Prophet,,, sue me. Caveat beware and what pharmecutical concern will wax fat off this,, or has already,,, what company sold this quantity of vaccine to the state of Israel. First it was said the African migrants of South Tel Aviv and sewage, then the Bedu of the Negev and sewage, something smells like some sh-t here,,,,,,,,, Sue me,,, I'm Yeshua.
19. Refusal to vaccinate should be treated as a child abuse
Daniel   (08.18.13)
Incarceration and sterilisation for placing own child and his/her peers in mortal danger is the way to go.
20. Did God promise health to those who follow advice of men?
Andrew Bain ,   Delhi, Canada   (08.18.13)
Does the Torah say health is for those who are vaccinated, or those who keep His commandments - those who seek after His grace and mercy? Is there no sickness in the lands of those who follow the norms of the day, or those who follow the commandments of the LORD God? Who do you trust in? There is a choice.
21. The danger of vaccinations
Steve ,   Liverpool, UK   (08.18.13)
Vaccinations are unnecessary, ineffective and extremely dangerous. Look at the evidence (which the pharmaceutical companies - who make billions from these drugs - do not publicise). Parents should NOT be forced to inflict them on their children. We did not give our daughter one single vaccination. Look for the homoeopathic alternatives.
22. Is it safe?
Brent ,   San Antonio, USA   (08.18.13)
In the US the drug companies have blanket immunity from lawsuits resulting from vaccines. Hence, they have no incentive to produce safe vaccines. If you are hurt by a vaccine you have to go through a special US court which awards money from a fund created by contributions from the drug companies, but the drug companies never shoulder direct responsibility. That court has handed out some significant awards and rulings. The polio vaccine alone has been found to contain Simian Virus 40 (SV40) which is a known carcinogenic contributor. Additionally, people in Africa given the current polio vaccine have, surprisingly, developed polio. I would not receive a vaccine nor give a vaccine of any kind to my child unless I was 100% convinced it was safe. Based on my research, court data, and public information, I do not believe ANY vaccine is safe! Hence, I do not and will not vaccinate!
23. hmmm
Yael HaCohen ,   New York New York   (08.18.13)
just wanted to add a bit of truth to this article. Unvaccinated children ARE allowed into Kindergartens in the USA. All the parent or guardian must do is sign a form. Simple. Parents are becoming more educated on the bad effects of vaccinations and are realizing all the propaganda (such as this article) that is being thrown at them to vaccinate their small growing children. Why are you so worried about the "unvaccinated" children being a threat or a problem to the rest of the" vaccinated population.Doesn't this go against your argument? You are saying in this article, that the children who are "vaccinated" are the ones that are "Safe". Parents, do NOT just fall under pressure. You are the wisest and know what's best for your child. DO your research. There is plenty out there. Keep your kids immune system strong, lots of water, vitamin D3, Vitamin C, rub Thieves oil on the bottoms of their feet and keep them away from VACCINATED children as much as possible. Because these are the ones that will bring the virus to the rest of the world, by carrying it in their little bodies from being vaccinated. But this was obviously the plan.
24. To #19
Steve ,   Liverpool, UK   (08.18.13)
There is enough anecdotal evidence to suggest that giving vaccinations should be considered child abuse. Check out the safer alternatives.
25. Polio vaccine
A grandma ,   Israel   (08.18.13)
The polio vaccine given worldwide has virtually eradicated this horrible disease. It is because of parents not vaccinating their children that there are outbreaks every now and then.
26. clown.
peter ,   jerusalem   (08.19.13)
writing a book of baby names does not qualify you to give any advice on vaccinations, you know this?
27. Polio is a trerribly debilitating disease and I know this
miri ,   israel   (08.19.13)
firsthand. My beautiful boy cousin was struck down at age 5. If there is a preventitive vaccine, and there is, it should by all means be given to little children who are prone to contract this paralytic disease.
28. #7 Rivkah
Steve   (08.19.13)
Your insane comments always entertain. Keep up the good work!
29. Smadar must be getting money
Rich ,   Toronto, Canada   (08.19.13)
to promote Polio vaccinations. No one in their right frame of mind should be getting vaccinated these days because vaccinations DO NOT WORK! Pharmaceutical companies make more money selling vaccines to governments, at tax payers expense, then they do selling drugs in drug stores. And they are so powerful that governments can't refuse not to buy these vaccines. They obviously have powerful people behind them. No Jew should be taking these toxic vaccines that contain mercury, aluminum, and other chemicals that can lead to sterility, heart attacks, brain damage, paralysis, and many other negative side effects. I can't believe that the Israeli government would promote this poison to their fellow Jews FOR THE MONEY.
30. whatever
I can't even ,   jerusalem   (08.20.13)
I am not one of those "parents who refuse to include their children in the nationwide polio vaccination campaign because they object to vaccinations in principle" nor are most of my friends. But we have no private interest in our already-vaccinated children getting the OPV. It is only for the benefit of the public, and that is a hard thing to swallow. Especially when there are so many crazy anti-vaccine people in the herd.
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