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'He always hated Jews and Israelis'
By Hagit Kleiman and Yaakov Lappin
Published: 20.07.05, 15:21
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91. isac#80
steven ,   france   (07.20.05)
You are so right.Hardly ever are the Israelis mentioned for their charity organizations and like you said ,there are many.During the last major catastrophy the Tsunami in asia I think Isaw a glimps of an Israeli rescue worker ,but no word was mentioned. i think all the countr ies were given credit ,but not For Israel.You know I think its better this way ,as the Israelis have never asked to be put on the front pages,A good example is the funds that are sent and were sent for the palestinian people,we all know where it ended up?The so called wealthy arab nations did not send ,because they new too, where it was going ,so who ends up paying ,the Europeans and the west as usual.The PA were filling their pockets and then blaming israel for the poverty of the palestinians,and then the Hamas would come in and use this strategy against the Israelis ,and the PA ,and appear to be the saviours of the people,by giving them free med aid etc etc .So as you so rightly said,no mater what good the israelis might do about caring for other people ,race or religeon,they never get the credit and never will,for their actions.
92. #8 is right about Ken the Dhum Dhum
(07.20.05)
93. #17 - of course you feel that way...
JUDAISM   (07.20.05)
With a name like ISLAM, of course you think what he is SEEING IS TRUE...Get over yourself, mr islam, the only reason you guys have so much support in your corner right now is because there are so many Jew-haters in the world. But when the messiah comes, everything will turn around, and you will then see the truth.
94. TO BASSEM IN GAZA
(07.20.05)
UNTIL YOU LEARN HOW TO SPELL, KEEP YOUR PSEUDO-INTELLECTUAL NONSENSE TO YOURSELF.
95. Boycott London
NYC Girl   (07.20.05)
If any Israelis or Jews have family members in London, they should consider having them visit Israel or whatever country their family members live in. I'd be damned if I'd step foot in London while that execrable piece of poo is the Mayor.
96. To Ynet
NYC Girl   (07.20.05)
Since you apparently have no difficulty accepting comments containing all sorts of racist Jew-baiting, I would suggest that the least you could have done, if you felt compelled to censor my language, is to use the word s--t rather than that infantile term "poo." The subject under discussion is much too serious to have people, who comment on this site, be made to sound like potty-mouthed 5-year olds.
97. I prefer Barbie and not Ken
(07.20.05)
98. Ken Livingstone, defender of Oppression.
Joel ,   Belleair Bluffs, Fl   (07.20.05)
All, if you want to know why Ken Livingstone says what he says then find out who is paying him to say it, paying his wife, paying a corporation or entity that he or a family member of his owns...track the cash & you will be his demise. All politicians have masters. That is the only way to get elected. Who ever put him where he is today is in control of what he says or does. Right now all he is doing is earning his money, like any politician. Because he is getting paid by the opposition and what he says is so controversial & inflammatory he gets a lot of coverage. Sadly people are so bored in their lives that they allow this type of idiot to push their buttons. It is foolish to even pay attention to this bloated wind bag. By opposition I mean the enemies of freedom. Freedom in any form. Human rights, Women's rights, freedom of religion etc.... No matter what Ken Livingstone says, he cannot overcome the facts that people in the middle east (excluding Israel) have none of the following: Human Rights. Women are not equal, they have no voice and cannot vote in many Middle Eastern Countries. Religious freedom. He is the defender of oppression. Hopefully he won't get re-elected and we can forget about him as he falls into obscurity.
99. to # 63
Birdi ,   Israel   (07.21.05)
You a writing more rubbish as the days go by.A large percentage of English Jews support Israel.I hope you NEVER return to visit Israel, people like you are NOT welcome here,& if you are a Jew, you are a shame to your faith.
100. A Hebrew expression: go to bed with dogs, wake up with flees
Tahl ,   Israel   (07.21.05)
Meaning, if you become chummy-chummy with dubious people, don't be surprised one day when you wake up to see these "friends" stab you in the back. This lesson, apparently, was lost on Mr. Livingstone, or maybe he simply is in denial, and does not want to learn. He believes that by sucking up to Arabs, including Palestinian terrorists, and by demonizing Israel on every opportunity, this would earn him the gratitude and support of the vast Arab constituency in Britain, as well as giving him immunity from terrorist attacks. At least for the second part, two weeks ago, Livingstone's notion has proven dead wrong, literally speaking. However, even more critical to him and the British citizens as a whole - is the huge & still growing number of Arabs in Britain, who gain increasing power, and an increasing stronghold on Britain. The day is not far when the Moslem revolution will overwhelm and shake western Europe, including Britain - and then all those like Livingstone who went to bed with these dogs, would wake up with flees up to their neck. Moslem revolution in Europe. I would be so glad to see this happen. Those two-faced, hypocrite, smug, arrogant, stuck-up antisemites like Livingstone there deserve it so much. This would be Israel's ultimate "we told you so!" to Europe.
101. Yasha # 32 Kol hakavod for the cancelation of ur trip in L.
Yair   (07.21.05)
102. to 67
(07.21.05)
he made have offended the jews, but he spoke the truth to the REST of us. and there isnt anything better then a brave noble man. Long liv e KEN.
103. suppose I was part-Irish.....
(07.21.05)
...and decided to join the ira and bomb the english I suppose livingstone would give me a big welcome hug and send me a present after I bomb his grannies place. Maybe I''ll even invite him to saintpaddies day and share a beer or two after I shoot some british soldiers you realize I''m entitled to do this according to mr livingstone. I am part irish after all what a wanker
104. mayor of london
hh ,   ranana israel   (07.21.05)
In some people's eyes Jewish blood is still cheap. There are still people in the world that are extreme in their thoughts, however a leader where so many Jews live in his city is quite disturbing to say the least.
105. Ken Livingstone
Vicki ,   Kadima,Israel   (07.21.05)
Being an ex-pat, Londoner, I find it very disturbing that Red Kens comments are yet again given air-time. I just cannot understand the Jewish community over there. Why are they being silent? Its about time that someone stands up and defends what is going on. Where is the Chief Rabbi Jonathen Sachs in all of this, wake up Jonathen and do your job.
106. to 63
(07.21.05)
my best regards to you and to all those are like you .... it's clear that here in this site is made by some right wingers zionists , and most of those who comment here are also zionists or peace haters that's why i don't write here any more but your information about the Jews in Engeland and they are not blind fanatic to Israel like many Europians Jews too forced me to write and to thank you .... and i am 100% too with Mr. Ken Livingstone what he said .... it's a bit late but never too late ... peace will come by saying the truth and work for it .... but those fanatics haters they prefare to hide their heads in the sands and charging those who say the truth with anti semicm , nazi or terrorists ... i found that most of those who write here has nothing to do with making peace ... because it's not interesting for the zionists and it's against the interest of the zionists as it's known that from their prencipels that the drums of wars has to beat all the time to weak all the other countries and that they stay strong in the end and then they will rull the world .... this is their dream ... Israel for them is only the begining ... i know they will attack me and charge me that i am ... so ... or so ... or ... so but i will stop writing again because writing here is like you blow a ballon with hole .. the air goes allways out again ... again thank you and all the best to the peace makers around the world
107. Ken Livingstone
B ,   Netanya, Israel   (07.21.05)
If Red Ken is so impressed with the Islamic communities, let the ones who don't believe in democracy, but are willing to take all of the benefits from a democratic society, take him back to their own countries, where he can spout his verbal diahorrea to his hearts content - come on you Londoners - wake up to what is happening in your country before it is too late!
108. Mayor Livingstone
MM ,   RBS, Israel   (07.21.05)
I'm a Londoner, born & bred. I now live in Israel. When the initiative to create a mayor for London (town - as against the City of London - that institution is hundreds of years old & has had some excellent office-holders) was mooted, I voted against it from the start. It was obvious that a) it wasn't necessary and b)there were no candidates who were on a par with mayors such as Guiliani or Kollek. Livingstone is a disgrace & an insult to decent Londoners and to humanity in general.
109. #37 What's special
MM ,   RBS, Israel   (07.21.05)
Dear Bassem, What's special about Gaza? The camps in Gaza were set up by your loving brothers, the Egyptians; attempts by Israel after 1967 to rehouse the inhabitants of camps (who incidentally are not a majority of the arabs living in Gaza) were met by howls of wrath from the Arab nations & then by their supporters (who rely on their oil). It's their political weapon which they are more than reluctant to lose. Compared with the poor in Africa (not just Zimbabwe, Sudan) and the occupied/suppressed in Tibet, the arabs in Gaza have never had it so good. BTW similar to the 9/11 murderers & those now of 7/7, many of the arab "suicide" murderers are/were educated, well-to-do and in no way oppressed (at least by Israel). More recently, they've been brainwashed children or women who were raped within their community and therefore cast-out. It just goes to show that when it comes to arabs and their wealth the world has to bend over backwards to make allowances but jews are fair game.
110. Ken Livingston
Bertie Frankel ,   Raanana , Israel   (07.21.05)
If I had the choice of spending time with either Livingston or a donkey, I would choose the donkey.
111. Livingstone
Mark Stein ,   Toronto Canada   (07.21.05)
Besides the obvious support of a constituency relieved every time Livingstone’s sadistic words hit the fan, one wonders why the London mayor feels so compelled to make such cruel and dirty statements about Israel and Israelis. Like a would-be rapist unaware that no means no, he is oblivious of the moral imperative of saying no to suicide bombers no matter what the cause.
112. To No. 106
NYC Girl   (07.21.05)
You've apparently fallen prey to a stereotype of Zionists as right-wingers. In fact, the founders of Israel were mostly left-wing socialists and even today there are many Zionists who are leftists and even atheists, so you can stop using that term as an epithet. And, as far as being against peace, it's not the Israelis who don't want peace. If you don't believe me, perhaps you should check into what former president, Bill Clinton, had to say about Yasser Arafat.
113. #73 - you forgot something
MM ,   RBS, Israel   (07.21.05)
Linda, You forgot to add that the "palestinian" arabs (wherever they come from) are a special case [or maybe a basket case). Whereas all other refugees are dealt with reasonably well by the UNHCR (United Nations High Commission fro Refugees), the arab "refugees" have their own special UN organisation UNWRA. Unlike the UNHCR which works within accepted norms to reduce the number of refugees, UNWRA works to build up the refugees. Back in 1948 they started with about 400K and now claim to be 3 or 4 million. This is one of the greatest corruptions in modern times; these people never die - but when someone is born to a refugee or marries a refugee then they get added to the swelling numbers. Meanwhile your stupid government (& a few other stupid Western governments continue to foot the bill (whilst their loving loving arab brethren contribute peanuts.....)
114. number 112
ahmad ,   israel   (07.21.05)
do you actually think that bill clinton's words the holiest of the holy...if so why do you think he lied about lewinsky...please stop deluding yourself that israel wants peace....never did and never will....who stole someting can never admit his guilt unless he is brought to justice and israel refuse to accept the judgement of any iternational organization including the United Nations.
115. Honest Man
Jay ,   London   (07.21.05)
Mr. Livingston is very brave and honest man ,of course he condemned the explosions and terrorism any where but still He points at the source of terrorism ,He still wants to make it clear that others than those who commit the suicides are responsible and those others mostly USA and Israel and those who approves what is happening in Iraq and Palestine. jay
116. To No. 112
Ishaq ,   Gaza   (07.21.05)
Israelis are the most hated people in the world ... If there is an international vote for the most hated country in the world. Israel shall be at the top and perhabs USA will be second for its blind support for Israel ... I fully agree with 106 Number. Israelis and their supporters hate the truth...
117. To No. 114
Bassem ,   Gaza   (07.21.05)
I fully agree with you. Your comments are in the right place...Thanx
118. No way
Jay ,   London   (07.21.05)
The israeli's use media to cheat simple people ,, they want peace and the land what adeal !!! they want to keep the sky and under the ground and call it a palestinian state.. Mr Livingstone is very honest and he got no reason to support the palestinians than just being honest ,,palestinians will not give him money or glory !!!!! he is a Man.
119. Simply can't understand these European Anti-Semites
John Doe   (07.21.05)
I simply can't understand these European Anti-Semites; I mean can't the poor Israelis have their own homeland? What so if they have been displacing around 4 million Palestinians from their own homeland? Why can't we accept what they do to secure their security, even if this means killing thousands after thousands of Palestinians? Is it too much to ask these Anti-semites to believe that the occupiers who came from all over the world to ravish another people's land are really the victims, and those who are defending their land are terrorists? Why can't we accept the fact that in order to keep that homeleand the Israelis have been engaging in war after war and putting a whole rgion, and maybe the world, in danger? And finally, don't these Antisemites understand that the western backig of Israel is a grace and belessing and will never backfire?
120. to #63 accessol
G ,   South Africa   (07.21.05)
You don't need to be a fanatical supporter of Israel to know the Ken is a cowardly fool. You clearly are ignorant of the truth, because Ken is a racist Nazi and by basically saying it's ok blow up innocent civilians in Israel, but it's not ok in London.
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