Opinion  Sever Plocker
Paris intifada
Sever Plocker
Published: 06.11.05, 11:02
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1. Does France Deserve It?
NYC Girl   (11.06.05)
It's more than just France's "understanding" for Palestinian suicide bombers. It's their complete lack of understanding or sympathy for what Israel endured at the hands of those bloody murderers and their corrupt leaders. And if you think Israelis are getting some sense of satisfaction from the situation, you'd be amazed at how many Americans who, ordinarily, wouldn't wish anybody ill, but are delighted to be able rub France's nose in the mess they've created. There's only one word to describe it: "Schadenfreude."
2. France is occupied by ISLAM-The next are Spain UK&Scandinavi
The Islam revolution ,   in Europe begun   (11.06.05)
3. French Idiots
Tom ,   Washington, D.C.,USA   (11.06.05)
Yes! Praise God, now ALL OF FRANCE will become muslim. You deserve it, you french idiots! Now show us all how tolerant you can be. But we know what will happen dont we? Your response will be fascism! You could not engage in common sense and engage in a balanced view of the world. Even NOW the french are blaming THEMSELVES!!! Ha-Ha! I LOVE IT! They cant even bring themselves to name them as MUSLIMS! O MY GOD, THE FRENCH ARE TRULY IDIOTS! THIS IS WHAT YOU DESERVE FOR TRYING TO TELL US IN AMERICA WHAT BAD PEOPLE WE ARE FOR HAVING A HURRICANE. BRILLIANT! THE FRENCH ARE SO BRILLIANT! STAND BACK AND SEE WHAT THE FRENCH ARE TRULY MADE OF!
4. Burn Baby Burn.
Bill Pearlman ,   Chicago, USA   (11.06.05)
5. burn paris..burn!!! lol
Yonatan ,   Israel   (11.06.05)
6. Is Paris Burning
Gabe1 ,   Thornill Canada   (11.06.05)
Not Yet but it most certainly will. This article is to the point and these deluded European Humanists are to blame. There is going to be transfer in Europe and in the not too far future. Islam is a cancer that must be uprooted. Appeasement Never pays. IT SURE LOOKS GOOD ON THEM.
7. Morons rule Europe
Ram ,   London   (11.06.05)
It is amazing how jealousy and hate of the Jews blind their enemies. Throughout Europe the siding with the Palestinians and continuous demonisation of Israel has slowly strengthened, and gave credibility to, the Palestinian cause and therefore to its backing by the muslim world. The lack of control by the authorities on this festering of hate is now beginning to spill over to those who helped it blossom. The cycle is complete! Israelis must not gloat on this phenomenon as this will only arouse the contempt of the Europeans. Who knows, maybe they will start respecting us?
8. Free Word : don't make the same mistakes!
Lionel B. ,   Paris , France   (11.06.05)
Please USA , Spain , Canada, Scandinavia, don't make the same mistakes for your own sake, protect your frontiers, don't legalize the illegal immigrants as the stupid Zapatero has done in Spain lately. Forget the "droit du sol" or jus soli ( right of birthplace ). I remenber a book I read a long time ago about the conquest of Spain by the muslims. It was'nt a big landing because Ibn Tariq had only a few boats. The muslims were already in place, having settled in the peninsula and living as peaceful peasants. Until the commander from Arabia came with a few officers and made them an army for Islam. Everybody knows what happened next. If mr Sarkozy can't stop this intifada , the jewish communities from this suburbs and parts of Paris ( XIX and XX districts )will suffer a lot and will have to leave these territories . The sad story is that all the jews that still leave in these places have left North Africa after the independance of Algeria, Morroco and Tunisia and found France as a safe haven. For less than forty years! Sooner or later we will have to move again.
9.  french politics and media's denials
yoel   (11.06.05)
Personnally,I don't think this is an Intifada, as Israel experienced it these last 4 years. Because there are no suicide bombers, and also because there is pricipally an oppostion between rioters and police, firemen, ... Most of the destructions concern "materials". Those riots are localized principally in suburbs of big towns. But cars are burnt every day since ten years ago. I heard about 100 cars every "normal" day in the hole french territory. The real problem comes from french media who deny the problem, and also the french politics who tell them what they have to say.... Well, the real problem comes from the unique press agency, AFP, who spreads the information for everybody in France. Same people who call palestinian "terrorists" as "militants" or "activists" concerning the israeli-palestinian conflict coverage... Now, concerning the french events, they speak about "youngsters" instead of "rioters". The real taboo concerns the word "ISLAM", they deny that parameter, and prefer talking about desperation due to high rate of jobless people and poverty in those areas. Concerning the coverage of these events by international media, French government speaks about exageration, that doesn't reflect the truth?? They just got the backdraft they deserve. As far as I know, french authorities are scared about tourism industrial market which will fall down. But they didn't feel guilty when they used same methods for covering israeli intifada events (Charles Enderlin and what happened in Netzarim... ;-) ). Those people living in suburbs always heard about desperation from the palestinians "militants", which could justify their suicide bombings. They were told that terrorists in Iraq are "resistants". Now, it would sound difficult for them beeing convinced they don't have the right to complain, beeing violent, and destroy things. Especially if they didn't kill (yet) anyone. This is just a matter of time, and if Riots persist during next week, it could turn to an Intifada-like. Finally, this is an end to their immigration policy since more than 40 years. They brought a lot of uneducated people for hard working tasks. Uneducated? Because they wanted to make sure they wouldn't complain. Then, all of them were "parked" together outside of towns, which facilitated ignoring their problems, but also making difficult any kind of integration. Remember about Chirac saying "le bruit et l'odeur" (Noise and bad smell) concerning these immigrates. Those uneducated people grew-up too many children, which helped increasing their incomes by getting a lot of subsidies from the french State. At the same time, do you expect those parents to educate children? These children have no respect from their parents, because they have no example to show... Then, this gave a third generation, and those new children expience the Globalization era. They have access to any information,... Now, don't want to experience the same lives as their parents.
10. Islamic Golem turns on its French Masters
Yael ,   Rishon   (11.06.05)
11. Eurabia on the rampage
Dimitry ,   Toronto   (11.06.05)
a series of agreements between the European Union and the Arab League that guaranteed that Muslim immigrants in Europe would not be compelled in any way to adapt ‘to the customs of the host countries.’ The European Union has implemented such recommendations for decades — so far from playing down the differences between ethnic groups, they have instead stood by approvingly while immigrants formed non-assimilated Islamic enclaves within Europe. Indeed, as Bat Ye’or demonstrates, they have assured the Arab League in multiple agreements that they would aid in the creation and maintenance of such enclaves. Ignorance of the jihad ideology among European officials has allowed that ideology to spread in those enclaves, unchecked until relatively recently. Consequently, among a generation of Muslims born in Europe, significant numbers have nothing but contempt and disdain for their native lands, and allegiance only to the Muslim umma and the lands of their parents’ birth. Those who continue to arrive in Europe from Muslim countries are encouraged by the isolation, self-imposed and other-abetted, of the Islamic communities in Europe to hold to the same attitudes. The Arab European League, a Muslim advocacy group operating in Belgium and the Netherlands, states as part of its ‘vision and philosophy’ that ‘we believe in a multicultural society as a social and political model where different cultures coexist with equal rights under the law.’ It strongly rejects for Muslims any idea of assimilation or integration into European societies: ‘We do not want to assimilate and we do not want to be stuck somewhere in the middle. We want to foster our own identity and culture while being law abiding and worthy citizens of the countries where we live. In order to achieve that it is imperative for us to teach our children the Arabic language and history and the Islamic faith. We will resist any attempt to strip us of our right to our own cultural and religious identity, as we believe it is one of the most fundamental human rights.’ AEL founder Dyab Abou Jahjah, who was himself arrested in November 2002 and charged with inciting Muslims in Antwerp to riot (Belgian Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt said that the AEL was 'trying to terrorize the city', has declared: ‘Assimilation is cultural rape. It means renouncing your identity, becoming like the others.’
12. i am confused
DACON9   (11.06.05)
I AM VERY CONFUSED HELP ME PLEASE ARE THESE ARABS HAVING RESENTMENT AND HATE FOR AMERICA? or was that last weeks mantra? IS IT FRANCE THAT THEY HATE today? I dont like to be confused... ARENT THESE ARABS THE SAME THAT PRES BUSH HAS OFTEN TIMES DESCRIBED AS A PEACEFUL PEOPLE? i think so ARE ARABS THE ONLY POOR PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD. arent there many all over the world that doesnt have food to eat and they are not rioting? DID THE MOHAMMED IN THE KORAN GUARANTEE THEM BLISS AND WEALTH or was that only if they blow themselfs up? I AM SO CONFUSED. i hate to read anymore. i am so much happier not reading so i dont get confused..
13. reply to No.8
Elijah ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (11.07.05)
I think you are right to think that soon all the jews will have to move out of Europe. And that's a GOOD thing! How many holocaust(s) does the world jewry need to understand that there is only 1 place where they can and are supposed to live? YHVH is telling you guys something that you don't seem to / want to understand: COME HOME!
14. Of course they deserve it but...
seth frantzman ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (11.07.05)
There is no doubt that France deserves the intifada becuase for years the French have added their hatred and bile to anti-Israel dialouge. Today france is learning what it is like, The french claim that Israeli 'occupation' caused the intifada, but now we see that in fact it has nothing to do with that. However we must oppose the attempt by the masses, those who in their rioting imitate the revival of fascism, we must oppose them, for their hatred, their racism, their militancy, is attempting to over throw civilization and freedom. France also may have 'deserved' to be defeated in 1941, but the result of that defeat affects the world, we do not live in a vacume. We must volunteer not to go to France and fight the rioters, we must defend the world.
15. Encouraging Anarchy
walker   (11.07.05)
I think the word you are looking for instead of anarchy, would be Chaos. anarchy is not chaos. anarchy is peace co-existence without government. Chaos is mahem against the government.
16. Traded Jews For Muslims - Not a Good Trade
Seth ,   Washington, DC   (11.07.05)
The Vichy rounded up and sent most of their Jews to Auschwitz and replaced them with Muslims escaping the misery of French colonial rule.
17. I AM CONFUSED AFTER THINKING
DACON9   (11.07.05)
I REALIZED THAT I AM MORE CONFUSED THAN I ORIGINALLY THOUGHT................. I REMEMBERED THAT SAUDIA ARABIA HAS TRILLIONS FROM OIL I REMEMBERED THAT IRAQ HAS BILLIONS FROM OIL. I REMEBERED THAT BAHRAIN AND ALL THOSE OTHER CAMEL RAISING COUNTRIES ARE RAISING THE PRICES OF MY GAS TO DRIVE MY CAR AND TO HEAT MY HOUSE. I REMEMBERED THAT EGYPT IS GIVEN BILLIONS FROM USA AND EU FOR WHAT I DONT KNOW I REMEBERED THAT ARAFART WAS GIVEN BILLIONS FOR WHAT I DONT KNOW I REMEBERED THAT ABBAS IS GIVEN MILLIONS FOR WHAT I DONT BELIEVE I REMEMBERED THAT MY TAXES KEEP GOING UP TO SUPPORT PEACE, EDUCATION, QUALITY OF LIFE FOR PEOPLE THAT DONT KNOW WHAT IS ,WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO SHOW THEM, THAT THEY DONT HAVE AND WOULD MISS, IF THEY ONLY KNEW THEY ARE MISSING IT.... I REMEMBERED ALL THIS... MY CONFUSION IS........ WHY ARE THE ARABS BURNING CARS IN FRANCE, KIDNAPPING IN IRAQ, FLYING INTO BUILDINGS, BOMBING SUBWAYS, MURDERING WHERE EVER AN ARAB HAPPENS TO LIVE AND THREATENING THE ENTIRE WORLD SINCE THE FIRST ARAB WAS EVER BORN..that would be ishmael by the way, WHEN ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS OVERTHROW SAUDIA ARABIA JORDAN ,LEBONON, IRAN,SYRIA, IRAN, AFGANISTAN..WHAT DO THEY WANT FROM ME? I DONT OWE THEM A DAMNED THING.
18. France is burning
Larry ,   Thornhill, Canada   (11.07.05)
I don't think it is surprising that France is burning. Their desire for oil has forced them to lie in bed with the Arabs. Now their population is being fueled against them from within. Unlike suicide bombers in New York or London, or Bali, etc. they are masking their tactics under civil unrest. Yet it is naive to believe that. This is an orchestrated push by Muslim extremists to control the political agenda. Dangerous and in need of a strong response.
19. sympathy
Matt ,   New Haven, Conn., US   (11.07.05)
I'm an American, and I do feel sympathy for the French security forces, firefighters, and emergency medical personnel who are risking their own lives to protect others' safety and property. I also feel sympathy for the ordinary people who are being terrorized by thugs and hooligans. I feel no sympathy for the government of France, which did all it could to save the government of Saddam Hussein, aids Hamas Hizbollah, and tolerated (or at least failed to quell) a wave of anti-Semitic violence on its own territory.
20. JIHAD
Vienna - Year 1529   (11.07.05)
Year 1529 in Vienna was the end of Muslim advance in Europe and today ... The West is again facing a concerted effort by Islamic jihadists, the motives and goals of whom are largely ignored by the Western media, to destroy the West and bring it forcibly into the Islamic world -- and to commit violence to that end even while their overall goal remains out of reach. That effort goes under the general rubric of jihad. Jihad (in Arabic, "struggle") is a central duty of every Muslim. Modern Muslim theologians have spoken of many things as jihads: the struggle within the soul, defending the faith from critics, supporting its growth and defense financially, even migrating to non-Muslim lands for the purpose of spreading Islam. But violent jihad is a constant of Islamic history. Many passages of the Qur'an and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad are used by jihad warriors today to justify their actions and gain new recruits. No major Muslim group has ever repudiated the doctrines of armed jihad. The theology of jihad, which denies unbelievers equality of human rights and dignity, is available today for anyone with the will and means to bring it to life. Read : http://www.jihadwatch.org
21. Liberte?Fraternite?Egalite?
Natbag ,   Tel Aviv,Israel   (11.07.05)
The riots started as a manifestation of a social problem. But the consequences will probably be of bigger amplitude and the muslim youth will turn more and more extremist and at least a fraction will become a V column within Europe...
22. How emigrate as soon as possible...??
From Paris.France   (11.07.05)
the situation in france is worsening and i see it everyday as more and more muslims are trying to get more and more power .How? muslims are complaining about the fact they deserve more money and more jobs. they are complaining also on the fact that no one help them whereas france already helps them more than it should do.France had so many immigrants like spaniards italians and jews too who were never helped by the state. muslims today are being helped more than any other groups and sometimes i wonder how france can pretend to be a democracy whereas special laws where made for them.... it is not fair for others like jews too. Other non muslim imigrants had to work hard in the past in order to have a better life... My parents too like everyone normal worked hard and succeeded in bringing me a decent living for me and all my family. But most muslims are doing all the contrary it seems. thay are bargaining everyday on tv cause they are not working as every immigrants did in the past but they are trying not to assimilate in society but assimilate the others . they are currently 10 percent of the population and till then they are changing my country, France, so deeply...in bad but in 50 years or so, France Will be ROTTEN. i am deeply sorry for my country cause I like it so much but the situation is so bad that i am very pessimistic. I think france can not longer be a safe heaven for jews too. the list of countries that can pretend to be a safe heaven is certainly decreasing ... maybe canada australia usa ?... one country Will always remain Israel because it zas created for that exact situation. As you see another jew is totally convinced now
23. and next is europe
(11.07.05)
and next is europe
24. France is over
(11.07.05)
30% of French people under 25 are Arab Muslim or Black. In only 20 years they will be the majority. Get ready to see a Burqa Painted of Mona Lisa, and an Islamic flag waving from the Eiffel tower. I am afraid the same will happen to Israel unless things start to change
25. Stop lying about the causes of the riots, HYPOCRITES
Miss Muslima ,   London England UK   (11.07.05)
I notice that most here are trying to link the Palestinian struggle against Israeli's with the Paris riots! It will never wash! You really people are stupid don't you? The Paris riots were triggered by 2 Morrocan men who died in police custody. It is the voice of the underdog! Stop trying to turn this tragedy into "Muslims rioting against authority" It's pathetic, and a selfish attempt to take advantage of one of Frances internal problems!
26. ISLAMIC STRATEGY ( 1 )
Tim--ex-Muslim   (11.07.05)
The Islamic strategy, an insider's report. I was born and raised as Muslim. My whole family is still Muslim. I know every genetic code of Muslim. I know Islamic brain. I live and breath with them. I am an insider. I left Islam when I understood that Islam is a sick and evil religion. Following are the Islamic message to the West. To the infidels of the West: Constitution for the new Islamic Republic of EU and USA is under construction. We will fight the infidel to death. Meanwhile American laws will protect us. Democrats and Leftist will support us. UNO will legitimize us. CAIR will incubate us. ACLU will empower us. Western Universities will educate us. Mosques will shelter us OPEC will finance us Hollywood will love us. Koffi Annan will pass politically correct sympathetic statement for Jihadists. Our children will immigrate from Pakistan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Indonesia and even from India to the US and to the other Western countries. They will go to the West for education in full scholarship. America is paying and will continue to pay for our children’s educations and their upbringing in state funded Islamic schools. We will use your welfare system. Our children will also send money home while they are preparing for Jihad. We will use your welfare system. Our children will also send money home while they are preparing for Jihad. We will take the advantage of American kindness, gullibility, and compassion. When time comes, we will stab them in the back. We will say one thing on the camera and teach another thing to our children at home. We will give subliminal messages to our children to uphold Islam at any cost. Our children in America will always care more about Islamic Country’s interest than US interest.
27. ISLAMIC STRATEGY ( 2 )
Tim--ex-Muslim   (11.07.05)
We will teach our children Islamic supremacy from the very childhood. We will teach them not to compromise with Infidel. Once we do that from the very early age our children won’t hesitate to be martyr. We will take over the Europe first and then US will be the next. We already have a solid ground in the UK, Holland, Sweden, Spain, Italy, Germany, and now in the US. Our children will marry Caucasian in Europe and in America. We will mixed with intricate fabric of the Western society but still will remember to Jihad when time comes. Who are we? We are the “sleeper cells”. We will raise our children to be loyal to Islam and Mohammad only. Everything else is secondary. At the time of the real fight we will hold our own children as our armor. When American or Israeli troops shoot at us the world will be watching. Imagine,… Imagine the news in the world “Death of Muslim babies by infidels”. We know CNN, ABC, CBS are broadcasting live. Al-Jazeera will pour gasoline on the fire. The news will spread like wildfire. “Americans killed 6 babies, 10 babies”. “Jews killed two women”, Keep your Nukes in your curio cabinets. Keep your aircraft carrier or hightech weaponery in the showcase. You can't use them against us because of your own higher moral standard. We will take the advantage of your higher moral standard and use it against you. We won’t hesitate to use our children as suicide bomber against you. Visualize the news flash all over the world, …Moslem mother is sobbing, ….crying. ….Her babies are killed by Jews and Americans, the whole world is watching live. Hundreds of millions of Muslims all around the world are boiling. They will march through Europe. We will use our women to produce more babies who will in turn be used as armor/shield. Our babies are the gift from Allah for Jihad.
28. Paris Intifada
Ed Berman ,   Salem, Mass. USA   (11.07.05)
Regarding your editorial "Paris Intifada" There are many Americans that agree with you that France deserves this. We in the USA see France as a country of cowards, panderers and political prostitutes! I hope the rest of Europe is watching but they never seem to learn.
29. French riots
Graham ,   Germany   (11.07.05)
It is ridiculous to say 'the French' deserved this. That Europe now has to deal with Islamic extremists - is indeed a self-inflicted problem. But stating that a nation 'deserves' such problems- is as daft as saying the USA deserved 9.11 - after having supported the very same people when they were fighting the Soviets. I do not say this -...... but some do. After 9.11 Bush could have flown to Tel Aviv and said 'Ich bin ein Tel-Aviver' (well OK not in German) Shame that he didn't. Anyhow the excesses of Islam - remain with us and must be dealt with - Israel will survive it all.
30. Here we go ...
Kobi former Swede ,   TA   (11.07.05)
It cant be said better than Mr Plocker summined in his last sentence : "This is just the beginning, not the end." Scandinavia and the rest of Europe is next. Is ANYBODY surprised ?
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