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American smuggles arms into Israel
Efrat Weiss
Published: 23.02.06, 21:58
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1. Israel should spend more time hunting terrorists then Jews..
(02.23.06)
who are protecting their country. Idiots!
2. 100% With you # 1
Ginette Golden ,   CANADA   (02.23.06)
I don't even know why they made that story public...it's so foolish! Besides there is not one Jewish person who is going to blame him for doing what he did. If I was not afraid of guns myself, I think I might buy one just in case...what am I saying...I can't, I just can't. Thou shall not kill. I take this Commandment very seriously.
3. no name?
manny gold ,   brooklyn, usa   (02.23.06)
who is this rambo?
4. I would want mine too
jf ,   nashville   (02.23.06)
is there not a way to do this within the law? the law is the law. If he was wrong and knew it....pay the fine/time.
5. stupid man
yoel   (02.23.06)
If Israel is so dangerous for your family, just don't go! And don't make your family facing to that danger. Then, if you need weapons, it would have been better to bring money and buy them in Israel. In any case, we don't need another Baruch Goldtein. Our image as jews is bad enough, and we don't need more stupid behaviors.
6. american smuggles arms
stanley arnold ,   new york, usa   (02.23.06)
nefesh b`nefesh takes credit for bringing all these olim from america.don`t they screen them at least! this is the result of looking for record numbers all the time without real screening and not for normal people.israel needs sane olim not crazies.
7. #2 and #4
Yonatan ,   Israel   (02.23.06)
To Manny Gold: I am the "rambo" with no name. To Yoel: If people should leave their land because of danger, then I guess every Israeli should get up right now and leave the country; hence, the end of Israel. Great logic, ma boy.
8. whats the big deal?
Yisraeli   (02.24.06)
unless of course one wishes to malign Jewish olim from Nth America. Its common knowledge many there are armed and even a hobby of theyrs. And its not as if they immigrated to Club Med in New Caladonia. Yes Israel is a dangerous place and one should have the right to protect oneself but of course all within the law. So officials could simply state these weapons are quarantined until such time you obtain a license for them. whats the big frikin deal with a whole newspaper article, unless as I said in the first sentence.
9. Gun-itis
Chrisona ,   Chicago.IL   (02.24.06)
A lot of Americans have even more guns than this. It's a real disease.
10. Yonatan, if it's realy you then you should have known better
(02.24.06)
Israelis are not allowed to have weapons. You need a lot of documents to have just one handgun so having a whole arsenal of weapons is impossible to have. Now, what's the NVGs and rappeling gear for? Were you thinking of robbing a bank to pay for all this stuff? ;-)
11. Israel's gun laws are racist
Adamush ,   London, UK   (02.24.06)
Basically, they are written to ensure the Arabs can't get guns. As a side effect, they also prevent new immigrants and other trustworthy people from getting guns too. I once investigated bringing my .22 rifle and and shotgun with me to Israel, but found it to be basically impossible, and bang went my plans for aliya. Tally-ho!
12. Weird and weirder
Karen R ,   Maryland   (02.24.06)
Why is this man in Israel if he's so afraid? Why is he putting his family "at risk" if he believes what he says? And why doesn't Israel just send him back to the States where he can receive appropriate mental health counseling from people who understand this sort of "outside the law and civil society" type of thought. Beit Shemesh isn't exactly the wild West. Could it be that he's just into acting out macho fantasies that "Jews are tough" (tougher than who?) Deadly weapons as toys for a little boy grown large? If this guy wants to protect his family, let him join the IDF - if the IDF wants him.
13. Adamush , London, FOOL
Gabrielle Goldwater ,   Geneva Switzerland   (02.24.06)
you try that in any country: Bring this to Switzeréand - America - or the other way around to the UK and you are in trouble mate WAKE UP You apply for an arm within a country you reside: and go through the procedures you silly sod
14. Israel is DANGEROUS to Jews, see what cops did in Amona?
Bunnie Meyer ,   Santa Monica, CA   (02.24.06)
15. important to understand the issues here
Yisraeli   (02.24.06)
Set aside this one particular persons case and lets analyse whats happened in Israel of late. After the assasination of Rabin a whole new play came into effect. It got harder and harder to get a license. Why? Because the 'rightists' were held responsible for Rabins murder. So they 'officialdom' finally got theyre opportunity to disarm Jews or at least make it very very hard for themselves to defend themselves especially those deemed to be of the 'right'. It no longer mattered that arabs could arm themselves with as many weapons as they like why Israel even helped them right? But understand what lies beneath the lines. Americas constitutional fathers understood an important aspect regarding Government. A Gov. could empower themselves to such an extent that civilians will no longer have control of theyre lives where the state makes all the decisions for them as fancied by the Gov. So the Gov. can eventually morph into a dictatorship. Hence the right to bear arms in America. The citizen has a right to be armed. Now lets get back to Israel. Israel is no democracy just the illusion of such. Its an Oligarchy of elites that empower themselves perpetually, just look at Shimon Peres - who ever voted him in office? Yet hes been there maybe over 40 years. Its not in theyre interest to have theyre civilians armed. It is in their interest that only those in uniform that follow 'orders' of the State (read Oligarchy) be armed and to carry out what ever the Oligarchy orders for them to do. Just look at Amona and Gush Katiff. And with the medias complicity as per this article only serves this Oligarchy maligning a particular segment of the community that the elites fear. They fear theyre hold on POWER. Thats what its all about and not about a potential John Wayne. You get it?
16. To #11
Josh ,   Jerusalem   (02.24.06)
You CAN live in Israel and own a rifle. Join the army.
17. Comments
Lior ,   Israel   (02.24.06)
1. Israeli gun laws are totalitarian. Arabs and Jews find it equally difficult to own guns illegally. Plenty of Arabs own and carry guns legally. 2. Guns are just tools - their danger depends on their users. IMO there's nothing wrong with owning loads of them. 3. There is a difference between thou shalt not kill and thou shalt not murder. 4. Disarmed Jews are more easily herded into concentration camps.
18. Israel armed Palestinian Police/Terrorists
Marcel ,   Florida   (02.24.06)
The insane socialist who supplied the Palestinian terrorists with thousands of weapons and more recently tons of ammunition even after all the murder of Jews attributed to the terrorist led and infested Palestinian police terrorist gangs. The Bolsheviks go after a Jew who wants to protect his family. Who in their right mind wants to be under the rule of those who reward terrorists and punish Jews who want to defend themselves from the cult of death ? Maybe liberalism has brought on Israel's terminal condition where the body attacks it's own cells ? When will these criminals who hide behind the corrupt facade of psuedo democracy be arrested for being a serious threat to Israel's survival ?
19. Every Israeli should have these weapons
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (02.24.06)
This is what makes America great. We can all have these weapons, and no one gives a rats hiney----except the pascifist Democratic party! Israel is losing its friggen mind if they prosecute this guy. They might as well put half of the United States in jail for having rifles, shotguns, pistols, knives, bows, and every other weapon in our society. Look at what a pain in the behind it was to get arms when Israel was declared a country in 1948. How about training 20 thousand citizen snipers. I can gaurantee the Terrorists will keep their heads down on the other side of the parking lot. You might have to build some perches to shoot from though. That Escape From New York wall that you built needs some sniper holes, for Jews to shoot back. Hitler will be proud if you take the Jews rifle away. The best way to kill a Jew----is if he is unarmed. Don't give up the fight---and your life. The Palestinians aren't going to quit shooting Jews anytime soon. And yes---it's Jews lives---and it's about time that you start protecting those lives.
20. You better take away all these womens kitchen knives.
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (02.24.06)
Oh my golly willikers. Some deranged person has a rifle. Actually, I thought Israeli's had a right to bare arms. They might as well. Every kid on the block has a rifle on an Egged Bus, and an army uniform. Of course, they have to be in the military. You don't see hardly anyone packing a gun in America on the street. Except for Police. You would think a million dead Tutsi's would be lying on the streets from all the crybaby liberals on this talkback. People kill people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Machete's killed all those Tutsi's---and a few rifle's. Does that mean every Israeli, and American housewife, should be stripped of their kitchen utinsels? All you women would just look at us men, and laugh at such a stupid idea. But those Palestinian's are sure stabbing the crap out of Jews. So are you going to ban Knives next? Gun's are for protection also, or do you women want your husbands to stick their little finger into the barrel of the terrorists rifle. Of course your husband can say," Just stab my wife, I don't have a weapon to stop you, she's a pascifist you know." Plenty of people have weapons in America. Maybe that's why the Muslem terrorists don't get to carried away. Because I'll definitely shoot the guy who threatens my family. What happened to all the Jews? Do they want a repeat like Europe, when the Terrorist comes a knockin? " Oh yes sir, I'll gather the family, you just shove us on the train, and dispose of us quick. I can't bare the thought of having to kill someone---in self defense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" All the clowns that think they really don't need a weapon to fight back with---belong in America, worshipping the Democratic Party.
21. Bring a soldier if you visit Alaska!
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (02.24.06)
Somebody has to shoot the Brown Bear. I wouldn't want any of my Israeli friends to get their head between the jaws of a Moma Brown Bear. They snap your head real quick, breaking your neck. If they don't do that, they will crush part of your face with their jaw, blinding you. Everyone has weapons here. It's because we have crazy Brown Bears, and Polar Bears. Of course Kung Fu might work, before the Bear rips your leg off and eats it. The Bears don't have guns of course. They just slap you silly with a Paw two times as big as your skull. I'll trust my 375 H and H over Martial Arts any day. I trust Terrorists less than Brown Bears. Imagine that!
22. He is a Nut!!!
Russ ,   Israel   (02.24.06)
23. cease nth american aliyah
JNR ,   Tel Aviv   (02.24.06)
its quite clear that the majority of north american olim are either nutcases or weird. I say let them stay in the USA
24. #6 were you complaining about all those Russian gangsters.
AK   (02.24.06)
I wonder who screened the guy with a swastika tattoo from Russia.
25. American gun smuggler
Rachel ,   Tel Aviv   (02.24.06)
Sorry, you guys are way off on this one. The guy is a "survivalist." They are paranoid individuals and dangerous. Wonder who slipped up and let HIM in the country???
26. Reality check to the commentators!
Average Israeli   (02.24.06)
Israel is NOT the US and it SHOULDN'T be! Many laws are different. US is an immigration state, Israel is a Jewish state. US criminal courts have jewry, Israeli courts have only judges. US has a powerfull lobby of weapon lovers, Israel - Thanks God - doesn't (yet)!!! The highest percentage of violent deaths in the West is in the US, not in Israel. If you love Israel so much, please respect our laws and way of life!!!
27. PA should punish him
(02.24.06)
Just like Israel punishes smugglers at Rafah (which isn't their border). But oh yeah, PA cant punish anyone.
28. arms smuggled
Hilda ,   USA   (02.24.06)
If Israel is so dangerous, I suggest the persoin remain where he was and not come to Israel. I can';t imasgine that this person is sane.
29. Seems just like a good Jewish settler
Wonderer ,   USA   (02.24.06)
"an M-16 rifle, a sniper rifle, pistol, magazine clips, army equipment, commando knives, helmets, night vision apparatus and rappelling gear". Aren't those the standard gear for good Jewish settler terrorist who is the darling of the Israeli government?
30. LIES! PROOF OBVIOUS IN PHOTO
Wraith ,   USA   (02.25.06)
First off, he didnt have an M16, heck he didnt even have a gun that was banned during our "assault weapon" ban. Secondly, the gun on the bottom is a BB gun. Thirdly, I've seen several pictures of citizens from your country carrying REAL m16's, so whats the problem with this guys gun's? Whoever are these authorities are complete idiots and a joke. Why do we support your country again?
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