Opinion  Aviad Kleinberg
War on Qassams not kosher
Aviad Kleinberg
Published: 11.04.06, 09:29
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31. I know!
Ram ,   London   (04.11.06)
Every time the palestinians fire a qassam at us we will send in a team of psychologists to comfort the poor arab women etc who stood by and cheered them on. And sweets for their children. To the writer I say, how did Israel peoduce offspring such as you? Generation after generation, including your parents and grandparents, have suffered the brunt of Mohammeds disciples' aggression. They have murdered your compatriots and still today wish to exterminate you and yours. If the IDF was not over compassionate would we have a problem today? Get real and move away from your leftist friends, or, better still move them with you. Stand with your people not against them. Chag sameach.
32. Ineffective artilarry fire
Yossi ,   Canada   (04.11.06)
Kleinman thinks IDF fire is ineffective. Not only are you wrong but your blind. Islamijihad is fighting among themselves, hamas is blaming fatah and fatah is blaming hamas. The losers are now running to the UN so that useless piece of crap, organization will save them - ONCE AGAIN. IDF actions are working and they should be intensified until the arabs surrender or at least stop the rocket fire.
33. Kleinberg Weakeness to defeat
Rafi   (04.11.06)
The enemy is what is not Kosher. The enemy is firing weapons at Israel. Any sane, person with a spine would fire back as hard as they can until the enemy stops or is defeated. In fact the IDF has waited way too long and way too soft to step this dangerous menance. They should be blowing up completely the new terrorist camps. Bombing without moderation any area the Kassams come from. If this is not enough a ground operation to rout the terrorists and their supporters, the residents of Gaza
34. Antisemitism
Pat ,   Stockholm,Sweden   (04.11.06)
Good Article! To put it in an international perspective; I think its natural for the rest of the world to react to the IDF´s killing of innocent palestinian civilians with condemnation. What i dont understand is why this reaction always is confused with antisemitism? The world would condemn any government who acted in this way no matter what religion or ethniticity of the perpetrators. I have a feeling that the constantly playing the antisemitism card is a way of refusing to see the similarities between Israeli violence and the violence from any other racist or apartheid regime.
35. brain dead
john ,   london   (04.11.06)
all these comments are grounded on guts-feelings or rather guts lack of feelings. No rational argument, no discussion on the substance of the article. Hatred, intolerance.
36. # 29
Marc ,   EU   (04.11.06)
oh boy, what nonsens! Linda and Gabrielle at least have something you have not, it is called brains. Compaired to the throut cutting mob you symphatise with; yes, the Jews ARE compassionate.
37. # 34
Marc ,   EU   (04.11.06)
tell me, where is the condemnation in the swedish press about the ongoing killing of innocent jewish people?
38. 15 dead terrorists....
Dan ,   USA   (04.11.06)
cannot be termed a failure. I call it a step in the right direction. Maybe the Palestinians won't be swayed by this campaign, but clearly they are not swayed by compromise (they see it as weakness). Since the Palestinians chose war in choosing Hamas, let them have war and all its consequences (including the shells landing around you).
39. Kleinberg
Phil ,   US   (04.11.06)
Evidently, Kleinberg either doesn't think that self-defense is "kosher", or he doesn't believe that Jewish people can be killed by these so-called homemade rockets. In his world, the US and the allies should not have attempted to destroy the war making capabilities of the nazis or the Japanese because of the danger of collateral damage. Losing the war would have been more "kosher". Kleinberg also feels that Hamas and the rest of the PA does not have any responsibility towards stopping the rocket attacks. As far as the antisemite from Sweden, it is incredible that this monster only sees evil in defense. Like the other Swedes, no response from Israel, whether it is vilent or nonviolent, is proper. He doesn't much care how many Jews are killed by Palestinians. Interestingly, there was a news article about the degree of cooperation between his country and the nazis. I guess it just is part of the Euroean psyche.
40. #34 what would Sweden do if Denmark launched kassams at her
michael ,   tel aviv   (04.11.06)
41. #34
Ram ,   London   (04.11.06)
With all due respect, focus on the subject and not anti-semitism; which is a subject all of its own and we would have a lot to say about this. For you to understand the Israeli/Pali situation you will need to learn a lot, setting bias aside. Would you call yourself a warrior if you shot at your enemy using your family or compatriots as a human shield? And if you were such a person how long do think it will take for your enemy to shoot you down regardless of who you are hiding amongst? Get real. Follow the statistics. See how many attacks and attempted attacks the Israelis receive on a daily basis. You can also go and visit the many hundreds of mutilated victims and their ruined families. And how long will it be before Sweden falls to the prophet's people? A few decades? If this happens they will only have the likes of you to thank. I suggest you re-think your position in all this. Shalom
42. No Judaism from Kleinberg
sk ,   USA   (04.11.06)
Why is it that so many leftists in Israel have the nerve to frame issues in religious terms (e.g. kosher) despite knowing absolutely nothing about Judaism? Signficantly, our Rabbi Kleinberg provides not a single reference to Tanakh.
43. kassams?
joobhoay ,   galut   (04.12.06)
The IDF should allow pal terrorists to launch a kassam at this Kleinberg's house from 5 feet away. Then I want to hear about compassion and "un-kosher practices". There is nothing "Kosher" about being a coward and an asskisser.
44. jonh 25
keren ,   sao paulo   (04.11.06)
Didn't you understand,or you don't want to undestand? People are saying there is NO OTHER WAY,understand? Or do you think that people must be stupid(like you)to give the other face and be killed! Do you a have a better suggestion?Give it! Poor john!
45. and again to dumb jonh 25
keren ,   sao paulo   (04.11.06)
"Insults, sarcasms, sheer racism but not a bit of honest thinking, of human compassion, of argumentation..." You are such an unintelligent being that all you can is ask for others to give arguments,because you are unable to reach this state of thinking! DUMB!
46. pat 34
keren ,   sao paulo   (04.11.06)
Are you just a simpleton ignorant ,or just an antisemite hided in an "intelectual"skin? Can't you see the size of Israel? Can't you see that Israelis just want to be let in peace,not bothered anymore? How would you react if, day after day ,a #@!^% fired a quassan in your backyard,risking hurt you ,or at least bothering you? What would you do? I am sick with@#$%^! like you! You are exactly that kind of type that wish for a disgrace to come to another ,to be the first to go and put your hands in what is left. I mean,you are the type that prays for your boss to die in front of you, and meanwhile nobody is seeing,go and put your hands in his wallet to rob him. That's how I see you!
47. dumb jonh 35
keren ,   sao paulo   (04.11.06)
where is YOUR rational arguments? Show up a bit your brains ,please!
48. Kleinberg on the occupation
Lanny ,   Chicago,IL   (04.12.06)
Aviad's reaction to the "shock and awe" of shelling Gaza is the same that I feel for the actions of my occupying government in Iraq. I once hoped that the reverence for justice that once motivated Jewish policy would help to save the Middle East. The mindset of the old Likud party members is the mindset of the American far right and mankind must demand that both parties step away from these life-threatening activities. Killing is not in the interest of peace and two eyes for an eye is not justice, but the formula for blindness. Thank you Aviad!
49. Timid Jews Led to the Holocaust
Joe Levi ,   Los Angeles. USA   (04.12.06)
Timid Jews make my blood boil, as with Kleinberg. If one Jew took a gun away from a German, during WW2, that would allow more Germans to lose guns...and so on and so forth. Maybe Hitler would have thought twice. If American Jews protested the "White Paper", rather than aiding that country after the Blitz, perhaps someone would have noticed? Now, the pious Jews advocate non-violence against the PA and Hamas, while Israeli artillery is condemned worldwide (read Arab MKs, Hamas, the UNSC, Britain, etc.). So, Hamas wants Israel destroyed, yet says Israel is blackmailing it. I guess these imbeciles simply want Israel to go away, disappear, like the Jews in Auschwitz, so that the Spielbergs can make lots of money on outrageous movie fantasies.
50. Aviad Kleinberg Is A SelfHating "Jew"
(04.12.06)
http://www.masada2000.org/list-K.html You wouldnt know "kosher" by any means, go back to your dayjob praising the enemy, you will get your reward in the end.
51. #25 Are you appalled? My 2 dinars...
Ron ,   LA   (04.12.06)
You say "I am appalled by the cruelty, the intolerance and the biggotry of the reactions to this article. Nobody cares to answer to the question that Shai (14) raises : why to bomb and harm innocents if it is ineffective? Insults, sarcasms, sheer racism but not a bit of honest thinking, of human compassion, of argumentation. Democracy means also the ability to accept gentleman's disagreements. Poor Israël! " If you are appalled I don't care. Israel doesn't need your admiration. We are grown up now. We kicked you out from Israel and from America once. You guys are NOT coming back. Bye, bye Empire. Hello unemployment line. I know our “shitty little country" has lots of” friends “in Londonistan.: jokers Livingstone, Galloway, Kaufman and even Charles - the first Muslim king. Nobody bombs your "innocents", and it’s a pity. Because if somebody would propose to spare “innocents" during WW2 he would be shot as a traitor and for good reason. I’ll tell you, when "Palestinian gorilla" is hiding between civilian population, he is war criminal against his own people. He is the enemy of his people. Coward enemy. Only in sick society as yours you become a "hero" and martyr, by endangering your people. This called BARBARISM. This is SICK. I pity Europeans. They live in deteriorating civilization. May be some new religion like Islam can do some good. May be Islam can give you some G-dliness and you Europeans can contribute some liberalism... May be this Eurabia can be a blessing to you there. To my opinion Europe need some chemotherapy, some help. Please, take care of yourself. Don’t count on America to come yet for the third time to help you. America is getting tired. Rotten children need to be disciplined sometimes...
52. #25 Londonistan John , the winter is over, lets wake up.
Ron ,   LA   (04.12.06)
You say "I am appalled by the cruelty, the intolerance and the biggotry of the reactions to this article. Nobody cares to answer to the question that Shai (14) raises : why to bomb and harm innocents if it is ineffective? Insults, sarcasms, sheer racism but not a bit of honest thinking, of human compassion, of argumentation. Democracy means also the ability to accept gentleman's disagreements. Poor Israël! " If you are appalled I don't care. Israel doesn't need your admiration. We are grown up now. We kicked you out from Israel and from America once. You guys are NOT coming back. Bye, bye Empire. Hello unemployment line. I know our “shitty little country" has lots of ” friends “in Londonistan.: jokers Livingstone, Galloway, Kaufman and even Charles - the first Muslim king. Nobody bombs your "innocents", and it’s a pity. Because if somebody would propose to spare “innocents" during WW2 he would be shot as a traitor and for good reason. I’ll tell you, when "Palestinian gorilla" is hiding between civilian population, he is war criminal against his own people. He is the enemy of his people. Coward enemy. Only in sick society as in yours you become a "hero" and martyr, by endangering your people. This called BARBARISM. This is SICK. I pity Europeans. They live in deteriorating civilization. May be some new religion like Islam can do some good. May be Islam can give you some G-dliness and you Europeans can contribute some liberalism... May be this Eurabia can be a blessing to you there. To my opinion Europe need some chemotherapy, some help. Please, take care of yourself. Don’t count on America to come yet for the third time to help you. America is getting tired. Rotten children need to be disciplined sometimes...
53. it doesn't work! it doesn't work! it doesn't work
(04.12.06)
54. Whats doesnt work with force
(04.12.06)
Works with more force
55. you have a lot of guts!
Smadar Carmon ,   Toronto, Canada   (04.13.06)
Hi Aviad, Thank you for contributing some sanity to this outragiously crazy situation. I wonder how many more victims will be needed untill we all realize that we are all losing in this situation. Kol HaKavod! take care, Smadar.
56. Mr Joe Levi
Mark Lynn ,   United States   (04.13.06)
Mr Joe Levi, SMACK DAB---DEADCENTER,BULLSEYE!!!!!!! MAN , HAVE YOU GOT IT RIGHT!!!!! THANKS.
57. 200% Kosher war
Francois ,   Paris   (04.13.06)
This war is 200% Kosher: IDF missiles are not cooked in the milk of their mother.
58. Good work IDF!
Navi ,   Canada   (04.13.06)
I never cease to be amazed by people who have such strong reactions to the IDF's "appalingly cruel" response to Palestinian terrorism, but are utterly silent about the terrorists who use their own families as cover to launch rockets at innocent Israeli civilians. "They can be fired from just about anywhere, even a backyard. They are not fired from open fields, and the gunmen do not need advanced equipment or complicated logistics." The IDF should therefore target anywhere these rockets are being fired from. It's the Palestinians' fault if they choose to fire from populated areas.
59. IT MAY NOT BE KOSHER.....
(04.14.06)
....BUT ITS DEFINITELY HALAL. SO KUDOS TO EVERYONE WHO DOESNT EAT PIGGY AND CALL THEIR DOG YASMEENA
60. Smadar the Israeli Canuck?
Canuck Israeli ,   Jerusalem   (04.14.06)
Sure thing Smadar. Glad to know you're willing to sit there in T.O. and wait until the peace-loving human-rights-honouring Palestinians also show us what real guts are. Jewish guts...right down to the last Israeli their willing to shecht as they exercise their "legitimate right to resist". It's simply disgusting how many people are duped by Palestinian propaganda masquereding as "human rights". If they had 10 million kassams and katyushas they'd use them. On Israelis, of course, not yet on the politically correct people in Toronto. Yes, we're all losing in this situation. However, because both sides are losing we Israelis want to make sure the other side loses first. We Israelis have a very, very, very, very, very, very, very simple solution: If the Palestinians stop shooting at us, we'll stop shooting at them. Show us some of YOUR guts by telling them, will ya?
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