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IDF's new weapon: Snipers who fought in Cechnya
Yossi Yehoshua
Published: 09.08.06, 15:13
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61. Kadima - vpered rebyata!!!
Dennis ,   Montreal, Canada   (08.09.06)
To whoever doubts the abilities of Russian military that fought in Chechnya -- these guys are some of the toughest, most experienced soldiers in the world. They fought through hell in the first Chechen campaign, and just the fact that they're still alive is a sufficient proof of their abilities. They will have an easier time in Lebanon than in Chechnya, that's for sure. God bless and good luck guys. We're all behind you.
62. to Floyd #57
Edy ,   France   (08.09.06)
Treating others as animals makes you either an animal or a racist!! I think you're the two of them as well of the rest of your stupid kind! Why am i talking to you anyway! Dumbs are dumbs, i cant change what you are! I'm forced to use thi language with you!
63. #44 #45 Edy
WL ,   USA   (08.09.06)
Israel didnt steal land, France and other coutries of your elk carved out a piece of middle east and gave it to the jewish people after WW2. Question to you. What policy(s) you keep talking about? The only policy any prudent and sane person can see Israel is practicing is STAYING ALIVE! Remember, the only people preaching for the death &destruction of Irsael and the west (btw, that incase your destruction too, Edy) are these muslim wackos like Hizbians, Hamas, Iran, Syria, etc etc. What do you expect Irsael to do? Just stand there, bend over, do nothing and say "thank you, may I have another?" The war ended 30+ years ago, people in the middle east (ESPECIALLY the Muslims) need to get over it. These people should be loving their loves ones more than hating the Jews. Go home, start a family, take care of their families, go to school, become doctors and scientists. Do something positive with your lives. Dont fuss over a poker game between Abraham and Mohemmad 2000yrs ago.
64. "All these stupid comments" -Nab
WL ,   USA   (08.09.06)
The fact that you utter those words means you no longer have any means of defending your analysis and thoughts. You resort to lashing out and denegrating people of opposing opinion only means the paranoia and fear is your own lacking of accepting the true circumstance of your plight.
65. #58 Wake Up and Smell the Oil
LMB ,   Texas   (08.09.06)
Pavel, Putin's Swiss bank account is growing daily from the Oil for vote bribes inthe UN and elsewhere! Lap dog of the Arabs as it's been proven in the food for oil UN scam. Wake up and smell the coffee because Putin has the money to buy it, do you? Good Luck Comrade.
66. You better give them a portrait of casper the friendly ghost
(08.09.06)
we whacked 500 ghosts already thsnks for asking
67. Iran and Syria
Patick ,   California, USA   (08.09.06)
So this guy, and probably the rest of the US, think that Hezbullah, Syria and Iran are the bad guys. I choose to disagree. Before Israel started harassing palestinians and lebanesse people i completely supported Israel in all its previous actions in the middle east. But now i am grown and a little wiser, I don't listen to what bush or any other derivatives of the Zionist movement in the USA has to say. Instead i have done my own research and concluded that Israel is the trouble maker. They occupy lands, they assasinate, they murder, they kidnap - but through there lobby both here in the USA and abroad they are able to get away with it. Every Jew should re-evaluate their position in this world because when world opinion changes which it will, the Jews will find themselves in the Gas Chambers again, the same gas chambers that they got the Lebanesse and Palestinians in right now. Trust in the fact the underdog with unawaverring spirit and determination always prevail. The Jews should find themselves another homeland, and stop betting all their worth the current stollen homeland.
68. #58 CUT THE CRAP
IRina ,   USA   (08.09.06)
Did you forget about Hazbollah killign your own diplomat Didn't Beslan teach you anything? I just do not know if you are naive or plain stupid.
69. to Thomas, #11
abe ,   brooklyn   (08.09.06)
Dude, you're from Germany - who let you in here? Go ask your grandfather what he was doing when he was military age - it will no doubt horrify you.
70. to Pavel, #58
Dennis ,   Montreal, Canada   (08.09.06)
Pavel, get your facts straight or learn some decent English. If you would have READ the article you'd know that they're not mercenaries, because mercenaries need to be paid -- like Russian kontraktniki or the whole American military. These guys are not in active military service, they're in reserves, and they were called to do ther duty, so they do it. Furthermore, I currently live in Canada, but I'm Russian, not Canadian. And if you care to tell me otherwise I will gladly prove my point next time I'm in Moscow. P.S. Obviously Putin is not pro-Israeli. And yes, thank god that he's pro-Arab (support for Iran, Syria, etc...). As if Afghanistan and Chechnya wasn't enough for us, we're now supporting the same people that were kiling us, inovertzov. My, RUSSKIE, vsegda nastupaem na te-zhe grably. :(
71. #23 Maybe if you and your terrorist buddies
(08.09.06)
allowed one another to live into your 20s, you would know what you just said is beyond absurd.
72. The Times Short
Jason ,   USA   (08.09.06)
Any one who straps a bomb on and kills women and children SHOULD DIE. The people who help those who strap on bombs to kill women and children SHOULD DIE! So now it's your turn hezzies, and those who would allow you to opperate in their borders ha ha. God bless and good luck youre going to need it!
73. PR War Vs Body Count
Former US Marine ,   Wisconsin, USA   (08.09.06)
the lebonese people can continue to fight a PR war...Israel cannot nor cares to fight a PR war....they are just getting more creative about increasing the hizbola body count .. KUDOS to the IDF !!!
74. reaping the storm ...
Former US Marine ,   Wisconsin, USA   (08.09.06)
Hiz fighters sowed the wind and the lebonese people reap the Israeli storm !!! and you still support hizbola fighters???? sounds like some of you have a screw loose....
75. To Pavel
Mike ,   Pittsburgh, PA   (08.09.06)
1. They are "Russian" by your definition of "Russian" -- ie born to Russian parents. Just like I was a "Jew" and not a "Russian" because I was born to Jewish parents. Most of them are married to Jews and moved to Israel because of that. And yes, they are Israeli as well. 2. Support a pro-US state? You mean they give their best to the state that has treated their wives and children much better than Mother Russia did? Yup, so they do. So? 3. "Thank God that Russia and Putin, unlike the US, have not yet been taken over by the Israel lobby." The proper place for this statement is "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion". I think in original Russian it was "Bei zhidov, spasai Rossiyu". (Kill the kikes, save Russia) Thanks for reminding me why we all left.
76. THANK GOD FOR THE IDF
MIKE BOWEN ,   LITTLE ROCK   (08.09.06)
GOD'S SPEED. WE ARE PROUD OF YOU ALL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE
77. #70
YedLita ,   USA   (08.09.06)
Absolutely true. remeber that HAMS and hezbolla are NOT terror orgs in Putins Russia. I guess not enough Jordaninas are fighting in Chechnia yet... Or were do you think the money for chechen fighters are coming from? Just wait for Shajmiev to go and the tatars to wake up... fighting 14% of total population of Russia is not going to be pretty.
78. To Irina re #58
Mike ,   Pittsburgh, PA USA   (08.09.06)
I doubt Pavel is naive or stupid. He's just a typical Russian, and than sums it up. No? Beslan was far from Moscow, and its citizens speak Russian with an accent, so I doubt he cares. How about Chechen widows in the Nord-Ost Theater? That was closer. Are you into musicals, Pasha?
79. To Patrick
Mike ,   Tel Aviv   (08.09.06)
You forgot to add "Heil Hitler", Nazi asshole! Rot in hell, Pat.
80. to Mike re #78
Dennis ,   Montreal, Canada   (08.09.06)
"He's just a typical Russian, and than sums it up. No? ". No, he's not. Right now you're talking out of your ass, considering the contents of the article we're discussing here. Just like Pavel you might want to re-read the article or learn some English, if you didn't understand it (reminder: "Russian snipers helping IDF fight Hez"). I'm Russian, I know Russians, I lived among Russians, and frankly I find your attitude just as offensive as Pavel's. Not every Russian is a xenophobe and/or an idiot like Pavel. Not every Russian is willing to sell out for money, like Putin is doing for the military contracts with the Arabs. You and Pavel are two extremities of the same stick, and really deserve each other it seems.
81. to #58 What about innocent Czechs, Afghans and many more?
Sofia ,   us   (08.09.06)
How old are you Pavel, 10 years? Grow up, do not be naive or idiot. I am from Moscow and I know very well russian politicians. Do not give on Israeli web-site that russian crap.
82. to #61 DAVITE GADOV HEZBOLSKIX
Sofia ,   us   (08.09.06)
83. To Dennis
Mike ,   Pittsburgh   (08.10.06)
1. Chill out. I didn't mean to offend you. 2. I know Russians and lived among them, too. And yes, not every one of them is a xenophobe or an idiot, but somehow I thank God often that I am no longer there. Should I remind you when the first major immigration to Palestine started (after the Kishinev pogrom of 1888)? Should I remind you about the pale of settlements? About the Soviet state-sponsored antisemitism? About the line titled "Nationality" in our passports? It never said Soviet or Russian, did it? Ours said "Jewish". Should I remind you about Pamyat', The Black 100, the arson of the Maryina Roscha synagogue? Why do you think 10 milion left Russia over the last 10-15 years? Because the Russians were so friendly to us? It is more fair to say that the Russian snipers in Israel are not typical Russians. But once again, I don't mean to offend. To paraphrase a famous antisemitic adage, "some of my best friends are Russian" :) I sincerely wish that your assertion that Pavel is not a typical Russian were true. But I remain unconvinced. 3. "You and Pavel are two extremities of the same stick". Thank you for your recommendation that I learn some English. While following it, I discovered that the word "extremities" usually refers to limbs (as in arms and legs) and not to sticks. You'd be better off using the word "extremes" or "ends" there. 4. I do, however, thank you for your support of the IDF and its "Aliya Batalion". They are great guys, no doubt, all battle-hardened officers, very well trained. FYI: http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=10177
84. Let The Snipers Loose
Alistair Louden ,   Belfast, N. Ireland   (08.10.06)
Terrorists do not recognise rules of engagement. Therefore free the IDF from upholding them also. If Hezbollah hide like cowards behind women and children using them as human shields, then they mustn't be as happy to die and go to allah as they make us believe. Make their wish come true .Kill them in any and every way possible. It's the only language a terrorist understands and fears.
85. God Bless The IDF
Alistair Louden ,   Belfast, N. Ireland   (08.10.06)
I pray that God will be with each and every one of the Israeli Defence Force Personnel as they fight this holy war for the defence of the State Of Israel and her People. Let them see and feel your presence on the battlefield O Lord, on the side of thy chosen people, Israel. Amen
86. to Mike re: #83
Dennis ,   Montreal, Canada   (08.10.06)
Mike, While I understand that you didn't mean to offend me personally and probably talk out of some personal experience, I still find your generalizations offensive. Do you also think that your "typical" muslim is a terrorist, while your average german is a nazi? I can continue with popular generalizations if you wish... The point is that there's stupid people in every country and ethnicity. And usually it's the stupid minority that makes all the noise, while everyone else tries to distance themselves from it. I apologize if some Russian treated you badly, but it wasn't me or any of my friends or relatives who happen to be Russian as well, and it certainly wasn't one of those IDF sniper guys. You can also talk as much as you want about Soviet Union - but Jews weren't the only ones that were oppressed there, Stalin sent 1/5 of the country to Gulags, most of whom were Russian. But these days are really over now... Soviet Union doesn't exist for more than 15 years, and a new society has been developing since... I even know of some cases of ethnic Jews leaving back to Russia from Israel.... The overwhelming majority of modern Russians I know don't have any racist feelings towards Jews, and understand very well that we're both fighting the same common enemy - Islamic extremist fanatics. Also, a lot of my friends here in Canada are Jewish from former USSR, and I am very glad to say that you're not really a "typical Jew" yourself -- none of them have your attitude towards Russians. P.S. Thanks for the English lesson -- I don't know what you were reading, but here's a definition of the five senses of the word "exremity" according to Princeton University, look at #3 specifically. http://www.linguasphere.org/dictionary/n-25971-extremity.html . Cheers!
87. Arabs leader is cowards !!!!!
jeniffer ,   california   (08.10.06)
arab leader is a cowards !!! both Hosni mubarak and King Al Saud..is a cowards leader..not a man at all...!! they just keep on discussing...forum after forum..meeting after meeting.. push PBB here push UN there... but the Arabs children and women.. still paying the prices(die-pain-hunger-scared-trauma-sicks)..and they both just still silence in action.. is this the leader of Arabs and muslims world??.
88. WHAT SNIPERS CAN DO FOR ISREAL
RIGHT ,   USA/TX   (08.10.06)
WHAT ISREAL MOST DO IS GET MORE SNIPER IN LEBANON.JUST BY LOOKING INTO WW2 SNIPER KILLED 5-10 NAZI A DAY.THAT'S ONLY ON SNIPER I AM TALKING ABOUT.BUT THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH ISREAL SNIPERS THEY ARE NOT WELL TRAINED.COMPARE ISREAL SNIPER TO US ARMY SNIPER FOR EXAMPLE.A US SNIPER CAN KILL AN ENEMY AT 1000 TO 1200 YARDS AWAY.AN ISREAL SNIPER CAN ONLY HIT AT 800 YARDS THAT'S THE BEST ISREAL SNIPER I AM TALKING ABOUT.ISREAL MUST UNDER STAND WHEN IT DROPS BOMBS AT HIZBULLAH THESE BOMBS COST AROUND TENS OF THOUNDS OF DOLLARS WHICH KILLS ONLY FEW TERRORIST.WHEN THE SAME JOB COULD BE DONE BY A SNIPER FOR LESS 10 DOLLARS EACH BULLET A SNIPER SHOOTS COST AROUND 1DOLLAR.DON'T FOR GET SNIPER STANDS FOR ONE SHOT ONE KILL THAT MEANS YOU GET TEN DEID TERRORIST FOR ONLY 10 DOLLARS.DO I MAKE MY POINT ISREAL.TIME TO TRAIN ISREAL SNIPERS LIKE YOU TRAIN ISREAL AIR FORCE.
89. #19 you burn books in europe, not read them...
Nasrallah ,   Hiding under a bed   (08.10.06)
90. to Dennis from Montreal
Misha ,   San Diego, USA   (08.10.06)
Dennis, you are full of it and you know it! I just came back from Russia and it is full of anti American and anti Israel propoganda. While you are right about Gulag and other crap that was going on during the Stalin's time, it still does not change the reality of the current situation. Unfortunately, people like Pavel are a majority in the today's Russia and Pavel speaks for them... P.S. No offence intended ;)
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