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Amnesty: Israel deliberately hit civilian targets
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Published: 23.08.06, 07:33
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61. #19 Amir and #28 Jesus and OTHERS - Please read..
Suzanne   (08.23.06)
You are both right. Organisations like AI are important. AI should though, be more balanced in the way of reporting. There will be a (bashing) report on Hezbollah, yet it should have been published the same day as the Israeli-bashing one and contain as many pages and elaborated on both the same accuses. Now,.. I am sure Hezbollah would turn out way more evil than Israel - yet the way it is presented now, makes Israel way more evil than Hezbollah. That's turning the world upside down. Amnesty should be more aware of this. (also concerning the many reports concerning Israel and in that perspective the lack of reports concerning Eritrea or Congo or Sudan. I know that openess of the country - and the amount of human rights organisations and activists in the country themselves has to do with it (it would be hard for an organisation like Bt Selem to survive in Sudan, e.g.) - but that should be made clear to the world population. The amount of reports - even the severity of often made allegations (instead of hard proof) - doesnt say much about the bad condition a county concerning human rights issues might be. The large amount of reports on Israel, make the whole world go crazy at Israel, while silent on the severe abuses in Eritrea. I am not saying that one should be silent about human rights issues in Israel, but give Israel some space. The overreporting concerning Israel only works contra-productive.
62. Jews should have their own Amnesty
Ignacio ,   Zaragoza, Spain   (08.23.06)
I think its time for Israel to create an Amnesty or something for the Jew. The argument is clear: no NGO protects them. You are not going to get any attention talking to them, and considering they have no authority, it is clear this would be also hasbaraah.
63. All civilians
Raphael ,   Paris France   (08.23.06)
IAF striked civilian bunkers, manned with civilian fighters, wearing civilian weapons and lauching civilian rockets at baby settlers or potential reservist women or elders. Internatiional law has grown to a rubber toy, flexible for terror's sake.
64. Amnesty has selective amnesia!
AB ,   TheRock   (08.23.06)
65. Disappointing
honestone ,   ta, israel   (08.23.06)
I would consider that Israel made a mistake, I would consider that they overlooked some things, that they did were not thorough enough, not careful enough, not professional enough. But deliberately? Israel is not interested in killing civilians, they should be more careful and less impulsive sometimes, but they do not target them deliberatly. If amnesty had a clue about what israel is about and what it stands for (we are not terrorists) then it would not have accused her of such. They are really fools.
66. Well said #34!! On the spot.
AB ,   TheRock   (08.23.06)
67. Nuke amnesty
Ahmed   (08.23.06)
Israelis are not capable of such atrocities, they just defending the occupied lands they hold.
68. Nobody listens to AI anymore
Nick   (08.23.06)
I think people are generally tired of Amnesty International and don't really listen anymore, when they complain about Israel for every little thing people don't take them seriously. They are becoming a bit of a joke in England. Most people find them irritating, a little like animal rights activists. They are not really doing any good in a siuation like this they should be spending more time focusing on 'real' genocides like in Africa, If they criticise Israel then they are only alienating themselves from the West and this will do them no good in the long term.
69. War Crimes !!!!
Ely greenhut ,   Jerusalem Israel   (08.23.06)
If Israel existed in 1940 & bombed the Nazis they would still be called war crimes by Amnesty . Hizbullah, Hamas, Nazis & Amnesty. They are all one big evil family. Their aim is to annihilate Israel & Jews where ever they live.
70. AMNESTY INTERL RECEIVE MONEY FROM ARAB-TERROR COUNTRIES
Frank ,   Meudon, France   (08.23.06)
71. 40 - Molly - Thanks go to AI and tell them
Chaya ,   Bat Yam   (08.23.06)
And everyone else go to Amnesty International and tell them what you think of them. I just did.
72. A Miracle
Mark ,   Boston, USA   (08.23.06)
All that destruction and Israel lost ,while Hezbollah did nothing and won. Must have been a miracle.
73. Children died cos parents firing rockets from their homes
KMR ,   Middle East   (08.23.06)
Both ‘UN & Amnesty International’ have no right to criticize Israel when they failed to stop Hezbollah operating in civilian areas of Lebanon since years. Children died because their parents firing rockets from their homes. They didn't care the life of their own children in the madness of Islamic Jihad.
74. I fully suport AI
Juan ,   Calexico, CA - USA   (08.23.06)
I have been a proud AI supporter and activist for years, and long before they came out with their report I already knew that Israel was commiting crimes against humanity. If you want to put yourself in the same level as the terrorist organization and therefore say that you are entitled to bomb civilians, then you have already lost this, and every war. The entire world, except for my country condems you for your deliberate destruction of Lebanon. Why did you have to bomb the oil infrastracture and contaminate the ocean, that alone should be labeled as 'war crimes'. I am not, let me make it clear to you, I AM NOT supporting any terror organization, they should no doubt be destroyed, but there is an intelligent way of going about it, and the stupid way like you did. And by the way you played right into their hands, and in fact did lose this time around. Peace to all mankind, including Jews.
75. Israel also hurt
Johnny Bamberger   (08.23.06)
once again a blind eye turned against israel and the side effects they face, like the 20 billion shekel worth of damage to the north (at least 4 billion dollars compared to the apparent 3.5 in lebanon)
76. Amnesty, gimme a break
sad ,   Jerusalem   (08.23.06)
Has Amnesty checked the damage by themselves? Or are they relying on senhor senhora's reports? You know the one who was crying about the 40 killed in some attack (during the Arab League meeting) who turned out to be one. How about the rotting bodies paraded in front of the cameras and ferried back and forth between air strike sites? How many times can one count the same building (as we saw one building reported hit on three different dates). Or one bridge ? (the Litani bridge was reported hit at least twice - civilians inspecting damage blah-blah-blah, same civilians, in same clothes, on same spot inspecting the same damage. We are not so dumb, you know, we look at the pictures, we compae dates and photgraphers, we come to conclusions. Oh, yes, the IAF destroyed the Hezbo HQ and stronghold in Beirut. So what? read Michael Behe's article The most hypocritical people on earth. And go read some blogs, like EUreferendum.com or rightwinged.com if you really want to know what happened at Qana or how the Hezb manipulated the media (and still is). I agree, villages in the south suffered various degrees of damage, but then they were hezbo lairs, packed with arms and ammo. They his arms even in mosques (Look how the infidel are desecrating our holy religion!!!) IDF soldiers even found houses where the rockets were already pointing towards very strategic civilian targets in Israel, such as hospitals, schools and shopping malls. Not to mention that our formerly beautiful Galilee hills look like Tunguska. Even the hospital raided by Israeli commandos was a hezbo stronghold, full of rockets and arms. Funny, a hospital without patients and medical staff, but full of explosives... Look, it's as simple as that - you go to bed with a bunch of rockets and missiles around you, you and frgments of your house might wake up orbiting the Earth. IDF issued ample warnings prior to every attack, yet we saw (on CNN or sky) people who tore the leaflets up, spat on them or set them on fire. How can you blame IDF? Nasrallah warned the Arab inhabitants to leave their homes, so as to bomb the hell out of the Jews. Amnesty International, go protect people's rights in Africa, in Darfur and Chad. UN - unwanted nobodies, AI - annoying idiots. One million displaced Israeli civilians do not count, do they? Yeah, blame the Titanic on us as well, Iceberg was surely Jewish.
77. AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL & ISRAEL
Mitchell Shadowitz ,   Boca Raton USA   (08.23.06)
This is a mix of oil and vinegar and has been for decades. Amnesty cannot operate in the Arab-Moslem-Third Wold unless it attacks Israel and the US. Therefore, it issues a report which is dictated to it by its biased investigators whose conclusion is written before the investigation takes place.
78. Tell Amnesty Intrernational What You Think
emanon ,   USA   (08.23.06)
For the US, e-mail them at admin-us@aiusa.org or Snail Mail 5 Penn Plaza - 14th floor New York NY 10001 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA or FAX 1 212 463 9193 1 212 627 1451 or Phone 1 212 807 8400
79. So right #14
Patrick ,   Quebec (Canada)   (08.23.06)
You've made my day man...doubled up with laughter eheheheheh
80. #4 Amnesty - HUMAN RIGHTS GROUP FOR TERRORISTS
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (08.23.06)
Dear Debra: Amnesty International are NOT uninformed about Hizbullah and other terrorist organizations. Amnesty, in addition to world leaders, are fully aware that the goal of Hizbullah-Syria-Iran and the Arab League nations is the ERADICATION of Israel and a second HOLOCAUST of Jews. Along with other organizations, Amnesty use their respectable cover as an influential "human rights" organization to attack and demonize the Jewish people. United with other powerful Jew-haters, one of Amnesty's main evil goals is to prevent Jews' human right of self-defense. Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
81. LEBANESE GOVT COLLUDEDwith HIZBULLAHfor Israel'sANNIHILATION
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (08.23.06)
Terrorist Hizbullah is a member of Lebanon's government with seats in the cabinet. Lebanon's government colluded with Hizbullah in unprovoked, vicious acts of war against Israel. Lebanese army radars were used to lock in Israeli targets for Hizbullah missile crews. YNETNEWS (08.12.06, 16:52) Siniora accepts deal, praises Hizbullah ...steadfastness of resistance fighters in field was very important,' http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3290107,00.html Hizbullah attacked Israel with over 4,000 rockets - the rockets packed with ball bearings to maximize the suffering of Israeli victims. Israel's third largest city Haifa, was under regular rocket barrage. Over one million Jews were forced to live in bomb shelters. Embedded in densely populated civilian areas Hizbullah despicably shoot from inside mosques, hospitals and schools in south Lebanon. Hizbullah ruthlessly uses human shields to protect rocket launching teams who set up rockets and other weapons in apartment blocks, schools and mosques. Images show Hizbullah using high-density residential areas to launch rockets: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,19955774-5007220,00.html Lebanon's government and Hizbullah, fighting a proxy war for Syria and Iran share responsibility for causing all of the deaths, injuries and damage wrought in Lebanon and Israel. In the war to bring all nations under Islamic subjugation, Israel's fight for survival is a fight for freedom and human rights for all nations. Israel must defeat her enemies for Israel's enemies are the enemies of the free world. The Innocent Bystander Myth Evelyn Gordon, THE JERUSALEM POST July 20, 2006 ...Far from being smuggled in without the government's knowledge, weapons earmarked for Hizbullah arrived openly in Beirut Airport almost every week - and the airport, unlike southern Lebanon, is fully controlled by the government and the Lebanese army. Yet the government never ordered the army to confiscate these shipments. Regular arms shipments also came overland from Syria. Yet these, too, passed openly and without hindrance through border crossings controlled by the Lebanese government. The Lebanese army has even openly assisted Hizbullah during the past week's fighting. Hizbullah's successful missile strike on an Israeli naval vessel Friday night, for instance, would have been impossible had the army's radar stations not given Hizbullah the ship's coordinates. Hizbullah does not have radar stations of its own. Far from repudiating Hizbullah's attacks on Israel, the Lebanese government has actively defended, facilitated and assisted them at every turn. There are thus no grounds for treating it as an innocent party in this conflict...
82. Photo FRAUD in Lebanon
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (08.23.06)
Photo Fraud in Lebanon Aish.com's new movie:http://www.aish.com/movies/JP/PhotoFraud.asp
83. Lessons for next time
Pablo Martinez ,   Hobe Sound, Florida   (08.23.06)
First, the Muslim Lebanese population is not so "innocent" as tearily depicted by those whose mission is accusing Israel for having the nerve to defend itself from attacks originated by fanatical Muslim terrorists. This Muslim population has notoriously aided in every way, hidden among themselves and daily encouraged terrorists. This, therefore, is a population of terrorists whose main objective is the complete annihilation of not only the state of Israel, but of every Jewish civilian living in it. Anyone with a fair intelligence knows well that Islam is a suicidal religion of hatred and terror, which turns its followers into suicidal maniacs and monstrous terrorists. What Amnesty Int’l pretends to ignore is that Lebanese Muslims are not so different from those of them who actively pursue terrorism. We all have seen on TV the enormous paramilitary parades in south Beirut organized by Hezb'allah and their ferocious sympathizers. Why the do civilians cheer them? The plain objective of the Hezb’allah-supportive population, and government, of Lebanon is, again, the destruction of Israel and every Jew in the Jewish land. So, innocent genocidal civilians? What an oxymoron! Were the civilians in Germany innocent? If Amnesty Int'l answers yes to these two questions, then it is Amnesty Int'l the one that is guilty of hiding and helping those who actively pursue the most vicious crimes against humanity. Of course, some morons will say: "but children are innocents!" And of course, I totally agree that they are innocent ... so long these children do not take any kind of weapons in their hands to make war. Have we not seen children blowing themselves inside Israeli buses, just to kill some civilian Jews before going to Hell? Are they also innocents? Are IDF soldiers guilty of crimes against humanity when they intercept them and kill them? The fact is that those truly innocent children, victims of the war in Lebanon, are to be blamed not only on Hezb'allah for using them as shields, but also on their own evil parents who put them in harms way as a sacrifice to a filthy demon called Allah. Secondly, Israel needs to understand that you are to go to war like when you go to war. Noble actions like alerting civilians of coming bombardments not only alert terrorists too, but will never convince those in the world who have made up their minds of hating Israel. They hate Israel and the Jews not for what Israel and the Jews do or not –– they hate Israel and the Jews just for being Israel and Jews! The third point is that next times Israel –– knowing that will it be condemned anyway –– should make war like a war should be fought according to the instructions of Torah. Like always, the IDF should be careful to not target civilians (evil or not), but make war to win the entire military operation in the shortest possible time and with the least casualties among the Israeli military and population. Do not wage war in order to win an award of good conduct from the anti-Semitic international community. Decisively, bomb the combatant enemy wherever he is hiding. Destroy any country that dares to help and hide those whose dream is to destroy Israel and exterminate Jewish lives. Do not set that country 50 years back, set it 5000 years back. Put fear in your enemies’ heart, Israel, or what is coming your way I do not want to see. But, most of all, look Up where the Almighty Elohim of Yisrael is (that is where our true Help is found). If you want to survive, know that it is immensely better to do that, instead of looking in the shaky direction of America. For thousands of years Israel has wanted to be accepted by those who refuse to do it, and it always has ended up in failure. Why should it be any different now? Remember that doing over and over the same action while always expecting a different result is plain insanity. To understand these things a little better go to: http://www.returnofthenephilim.com/articles/WorldAgainstIsrael.html
84. Amnesty Crap
Brod ,   USA   (08.23.06)
Amnesty is dominated and manipulated by Islamist-Jihadists. Their crap is offensive. They are biased and anti-Jews. They represent only the interests of the savages.
85. Amnesty International
Ron ,   Montreal Canada   (08.23.06)
What do you expect when they represent all the totalitarian regimes? Many say you cannot take them seriously......they said that about Nazis at first!
86. AI: Israel guilty of war crimes
Arie ,   Afula   (08.23.06)
for having the audacity to defend itself. Typical anti-Semitic drivel
87. targeting civiilans?
eltee ,   NY, USA   (08.23.06)
Let's do the math-7000 airstrikes and 2500 naval bombardments, and ONLY 1100 people killed? Who was doing the israeli targeting-Stevie Wonder? Considering that supposedly 28 people were killed in one strike, Israel should have an inquiry on how you can drop 10,500 pieces of ordinance and have such a low total of casualties. And of course they were all innocent civilians.
88. #74, AI supporter, please tell me
Sheikh yer Bu'Tay ,   Dar al-Harb   (08.23.06)
Did AI also condem Hells-Bully of targeting innocent civilians with their rockets? What about Hezbullah targeting and killing "collaborators" in Lebanon for years? "Collaborators" being anyone who disagreed with them? Over the years, it has become very clear that AI has developed a political agenda. They condem one side of a conflict while ignoring the atrocities commited by the other. In other words, they take sides just like everyone else.
89. Give a shit!
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90. Worldwide effort to deligitrimize Israel
SR ,   NYC   (08.23.06)
It is now clear what's going on. It's a continuation of Zionism=Racism; the Durban conference, and similar obscenities orcherstrated by Arabs, Muslims and international left to delegitimize Israel by any means possible. Well, Isarel should kick the bastards out of the country, along with BBC, CNN, and other media lap dogs of the Arabs. Whoever coined the phrase "useful idiots" was a brilliant man.
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