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Time to talk peace
Shulamit Aloni
Published: 24.09.06, 00:28
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31. Talk, talk, and talk
Zafar ,   USA   (09.24.06)
Nice and realistic opinion. When I read such opinion, I'm convinced that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Thank you
32. aloni is a silly cow.
gadalyah   (09.24.06)
there have been very few women in the entire with analytical capabilities.aloni is certainly not one of them.
33. WELL SAID
Lebanese   (09.24.06)
34. Shulamit courageous. Thank you
zeev ,   geneva switzerland   (09.24.06)
Thank you Shulamit for your courage. I would like to indicate here the only way to reach peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians: - Return of the Palestinian refugees home - Organisation of general election in Gaza, West-Bank and Israel - Creation of one democratic state with equal rights for all, regardless of their religion. A Palestinian state, even with Jerusalem as capital, will not lead to peace without the return of the refugees. You cannot neither evacuate all settlers. Therefore the only solution is the one-state-solution.
35. Hamas - stop terror; recognize agreements and Israel - NO
michael ,   tel aviv & london   (09.24.06)
Shulamit Aloni either doesn't read the news or Hamas's refusal to recognize Israel; abide by previous agreements; and stop terror came after this article had gone to press. 'start talking and keep doing it until you reach an agreement'. - with who? Not Hamas obviously! We could talk to Abbas of course but since he can't implement anything what would be the point ? And it's clear to most of us that he wants the same as Arafat but is trying to achieve it in a different way.
36. They have Internet in the funny farm?
Tahl ,   Israel   (09.24.06)
Let me sum up what Shula preaches, in my words: everything bad in the middle east is our fault. 1200 dead Israelis since the Oslo accords - Israel's fault of course. So is the war in Lebanon. Israel is the bad guy. Israel is the terrorist. Arabs have always wanted peace with us, and we said no. Israel is a big ugly occupier, denying Palestinians the basic right to annihilate us. Actually, you gotta admit - listening to this crap - it IS amusing and entertaining, in a way. I didn't know they had Internet in the funny farm.
37. What a Lady
Moussa Suwwan ,   Paris/France   (09.24.06)
Shulamit Aloni you are a righteous Lady. This is the first time I read, in this paper, such an article full of truth and right sayings. Tudarabah lahke, shana tova......
38. Aloni, what a disgusting person
Jonathan M. Boyko ,   Ofrah, Israel   (09.24.06)
...trying to salvage everything she possible can from her failed mindset. After all, people like her were pushing for the peace for years - only to get more terrorism. Aloni thinks "no wonder they hate us", put she apparently forgets why do the pilots drop these bombs on wanted suspects - not out of fun, that's for sure. If the Palestinians would've done their job, after people like Aloni gave them thousands of fireamrs - there would be no need for pilots to kill the suspects and the bystanders. Aloni, apparently, still thinks that pulling out would solve the problem, while everyone clearly seen that in Gaza it did not work out. Good luck, Mrs. Aloni. I'd offer your house to the Palestinians first.
39. Mr. Boyko and Ofrah
Michael ,   Haifa   (09.24.06)
Mr. Boyko thinks that Shulamit Aloni is disgusting...in a political debate that is legitimate. Mr. Boyko and Ofrah make me sick. To where exactly does this get us ? Nowhere.
40. Great article from a great writer :), its the truth
(09.24.06)
41. Yes, its all a Fact and the whole wrold knows that very well
(09.24.06)
42. Jews, Jews, Nothing But Jews
Dave Levi ,   Burbank. USA   (09.24.06)
In 1948, 2 states were created, one Arab, the other Jewish. Israel then won a defensive war, as it did in 67 and 73. Two Intifadas have failed to destroy Israel. Hezbollah, Hamas, and Islamic Jihad have failed also (though causing misery and deaths). In 1944, Jews walked into Auschwitz passed "Work Makes Free" thinking so. They were gassed. Peace with the Arabs is also a mirage. They (Muslims) all want US dead, all of us. That is what she does not get. She is a moron and, gullible and dangerous. But let her vomit her stupidity for all to see. She is not alone in her thinking. I won't allow her to cause my death.
43. It's OK to talk peace
Jon ,   Oz   (09.24.06)
but who is listening? and who is pretending?
44. Shulamit Aloni
Monty M. Zion ,   Tel Mond   (09.24.06)
Dear Shulamit, Unlike most of the "talkbacks" who disagree with you, I will not be rude, but I will counter your arguments and I invite you to reply, hence I have given my full name. At the outset, let me say that you are a better spokesperson for the Palestinians than even Hanan Ashrawi. The most important fallacy in your argument is that it is our brutality that causes the terror attacks by the Palestinians. Have you forgotten about the pogroms by the Palestinian Arabs against the Palestinian Jews which occurred over the years long before the creation of the Jewish State? Have you forgotten the attempts by the Arab nations to eliminate the legally constituted Jewish State, having themselves refused the state offered to Palestinian Arabs? Have you forgotten the repeated declarations by Arab leaders that they will eliminate the so-called Zionist entity? Do you not think we are right to take their threats seriously? Are you so naive as to think we can counter the terrorist deeds simply by turning the other cheek, while sitting at a biased negotiation table? Shulamit, I am a great believer in human rights and totally oppose the views of Meir Kahane and his followers, and I seek peace as much as the leaders of the party to which you previously belonged. However, until we can sit down with responsible people who will enter into negotiations without pre-conditions, I will support the efforts of my government to offer my children and grandchildren the maximum degree of security that they deserve, even at the cost of making Palestinian lives less tolerable.
45. time to talk peace
salleh ,   malaysia   (09.24.06)
go on Aloni. the world needs more people with soul like you. we have to make your idea contageous.
46. Shulamit Aloni
NYC Girl   (09.24.06)
Any shrink will tell you that the hallmark of a psychotic is repeating the same behavior over and over again, and expecting a different result. Mrs. Aloni, if the shoe fits...
47. 14-You are a great poet. I couldn't have said it better.
(09.24.06)
48. Another godless liberal ...
(09.24.06)
49. to zafar [the tunnel
zainab ,   palastine   (09.24.06)
any tunnel has two ends the best when there is light in both ends ...but sure the one end light where we exite to light is good ..but if the light is at one end which is the inlet ..then we will never reach onother light at the end ..but the worst is the tunnel of two ends with no lights in the begining nor atthe end ...and i think it is the jew tunnel //and the worst in this tunnel when you cant return to the begining nor to stop but walk to the dark point it means it is an endless tunel ..salam zafar ..salam aloni salam evry body
50. to tahl
tarek ,   jerusalem   (09.24.06)
you can say the truth in internet or in an empty place it is nice to listen to the truth but as iam a man ihave not the chice to let evry one to listen ..but at least i have the choice to tell the truth ....i remember the story of a king ..that he has ears of a donkey ..this king want to keep this secret ..but his barber knows about it ..and he can not tell it to any one becouse he is afraid of the king ...so he is out in the forest and shout [[the king has a donkey ears //return to his house to sleep ,,but at that moment all the people listen to this truth as the trees listen and the wind carry this truth from the trees to any where ///just i remember this story becouse i liked it when i heared it beffor more than 50 years
51. The hate of the talkbacks
hymie ,   usa   (09.24.06)
Unbelievable!!! Unfortunately, these hateful, shallow, disgraceful people who are trying to humiliate you Ms. Aloni, have failed. Hey talkbacks, I am not shocked your minds are so vacant. Boy, what a waste. Keep writing Ms. Aloni. I like reading your strong and peaceful words. And I like reading their foolish, pathetic words. Sorry, but these fools need to get a life and live it, humanely...but keep writing your talkbacks, I like laughing.
52. #38, you're the one that's quite disgusting
hymie ,   usa   (09.24.06)
Talk about disgusting. You're at the top of the list #38. You have that race won from the gate. Fyi, isreal has made Gaza a prison. That's why it did not work fool. Even an isreali grade school student can figure that one out, easily. Keep me laughing at your sick, shallow comments. Again, thanks for the chuckle.
53. ABOUT TIME
(09.24.06)
ABOUT TIME SOME BODY CAME OUT TO SAY IT THE WAT IT IS
54. What a load camel s--t
PatriotUSA ,   Redmond, Oregon   (09.24.06)
Where did this looney bird bloooze in from? Perhaps she can just forget about all the dead jewish children, women and men PURPOSELY and planned out, who were killed by such brave islamofacists using thug and slime ball tactics to acheive their grisly ends! When these low end of the human life chain stop killing us by whatever means they can, and come to the table to discuss a reasonable peace paln where Israel Gives UP NOTHING MORE, not one more centimeter of land or anything else; then perhaps the Jews and arabs can talk. But not before! She states that "WE" did not want to make concessions??? Whatever she is smoking and drinking must be pretty darn good.!
55. too hard reading this,
Yoel   (09.24.06)
because you are part of Ehud Barak's side who decided Lebanon's withdrawal. And we are now facing its consequences ! You should be hiding at the moment just because you would feel ashamed of your policy.
56. Shulamit Aloni
Birdi ,   Israel   (09.24.06)
Well said # 35. agreed.
57. Talking during 58 years didnĀ“t help!
Isaac Haskiya ,   Roskilde-Denmark   (09.24.06)
58. Our worst enemies hate us non-stop!
jason white ,   afula,israel   (09.24.06)
This creature,a self-hater never stops with her hatred of everything we do. Why worry about the enemy?I would rather all the palestinians and other enemies died than one of us were to be lightly injured. Why care about the enemy? She would never condemn the enemy no matter what.She should have been imprisoned long ago.
59. Israel's leaders must change mindset, engage in dialogue wit
silvio ,   italy   (09.24.06)
The Arabs are not sincere: as soon as you have returned their the territories justly occupied, they there have done a war. And as it will always be. They want the destruction of the State from Israel. Before the Middle East was almost all Christian. Now it all muslim. And because of their creed, and of their character, they won't ever accept Hebrews any of it Christians
60. stockholm syndrome-a progressive disease
Ben Temalion ,   Shiloh, MO USA   (09.24.06)
They hated you when you were just a Jew.They didn't want a state when IL hadn't reclaimed YeShA. Now htat Jews reclaim land from those who imperialized it, the enlightened only blame the Jews and not those who should have their right of return to their homicidal Hamite peninsular homeland by their own name. You hate Jews and those who stand for their heritage and not against it. With messianic zeal you support the pogroms commited against Jews and deny the vulnerability it has caused. The land protects you and you hate those who love the land. Your obssesion with Kahane needs some Adlerian psychoanalysis.. Without expeling those who come to kill you, corrective factors that you disregard, you have over-compensate, and now have an inferiority complex, fostering the danger of the your becoming egocentric, power-hungry and aggressive or worse, a hater of those who protect you by loving the land that is yours and protects you. Xfer is nothing unique to Kahane. You ignore Rabin and Faisal calling for it. And as for illegal occupation, you ignore the 90% of reclained land IL has already withdrawn from. They wnt it all andyou would give it to them, progressively, piece for piece of paper.
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