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Israeli aide: New Jersey governor ruined my life
Yuval Karni
Published: 27.09.06, 12:23
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61. #56, You Are So, So Out of It
Adam ,   New York   (09.27.06)
"Blaming the US 'anti-gay' culture (when it is very much a pro-gay culture now adays).." This statement is inane on its face. Despite a few halting steps forward, especially in pop culture, we live in a country that remains very hostile to gay rights, as exemplified by the continued demonization of gay people in the rhetoric of the religious and political right. As countries around the civilized world move toward legitimizing gay relationsiphs, our governing party calls for a constitutional amendment to prevent gay marriage; as many of our allies allow gay people to serve openly in teh military, ours steps up the discharges, even at a time when teh military is most in need of support. If you think McGreevey could have been elected governor as an openly gay man, then you're either deluded or stupid. End of story.
62. Homeland security position makes harrassment okay?
Kate ,   Jerusalem   (09.27.06)
Several respondents here seem to think that Golan's acceptance of the "Homeland Security" position makes everything that happened afterwards - his fault or at least "expected and okay". ARE YOU NUTS!! I don't know what Golan's qualifications are. But if someone offered me a lucrative position that I believed myself capable of handling - I would take it. Wouldn't you? Most of you would of course. And if my employer thought sex came with the job - I would also be afraid, try to avoid him and hope it went away. Does this make attempted rape okay?!!!!! If this happened to your son or daughter would it be okay? It's not okay. Gay, straight, qualified, quasi-qualified, just plain lucky he got the job: - doesn't matter. McGreevy doesn't have any excuse for using his power to force or attempt to force a sexual relationship. And if McGreevy hired him with that in mind he is actually guilty of a very serious offence.
63. Who's lying?
Jack ,   Washington , DC   (09.27.06)
So then, what does the other aide to the Gov say, the one who was at the house speaking with Mrs. G when the old boy whipped it out? Does he agree with this version, or some other? What about the Mrs? Wasn't she in a position to know if her husband was in the next room lying in bed with his Johnson out?To read Golan's version sounds very believable, but I wasn't there.
64. McG has Narcissistic Personality Disorder
T R ,   Virginia, USA   (09.28.06)
Anyone who has had an encounter with these voracious self-centered infants in adults' clothing will believe Golan's story. Welcome to the club, Golan. I'm glad you made it out of the nightmare.
65. Re: 'he is lying.'
Suzy ,   Albert Lea, MN   (09.28.06)
I couldn't agree with you more. McGreevy is a low life, but Golan is no "straight" shooter!
66. Get over it Beulah
Well honey hush ! ,   Washington DC   (09.27.06)
Spare us the phoney self-pity. You're gonna make millions with a cheap book written by a ghost writer, and a taudry made-for-TV movie. You're gonna cash in on all of this big time. And you claim you didn't want this to happen. Ha ha ha ha.
67. Are you kidding me?
Dave ,   DC   (09.28.06)
If you're not gay.. than Clay Aiken is not gay... come on... just come out and be honest. Get a life Golan!
68. McGreevey
Ex of homosexual ,   Seattle, USA   (09.28.06)
McGreevey portrayed himself as a family man, while all the time leading a secret double life of debauchery. I was married to a man such as this (hi #45) and I can tell you from personal experience that the lying doesn't suddenly stop once their preference is out in the open. Lying is a WAY OF LIFE for them. I would not believe one single word that comes from McGreevey's lips, ever.
69. We believe GOLAN not the EX-gov -
Tony ,   Buffalo, NY, U.S.A.   (09.27.06)
Not all Americans buying the lies of McGreevey. I only with the media in this country was not so eager to help liberal politicians -(regarless of how corrupt and sick they are!!!)
70. Ain't No Angel
Craig W ,   Beverly Hills   (09.28.06)
Undoubtably Golan was used and manipulated by the scoundral ex Gov. of New Jersey. However, he was no innocent victim. He took advantage of his position (in McGreevey's desires) and accepted huge salaries at jobs he DID NOT perform. Security Chief where he was not elegible, PR where he was fired for absenteeism (at MWW Group), and Special Counsel to the gov. where he did not even show up to the office. Ain't no angels in this story. Just a couple of devils.
71. WHO CARES??? Cipel is a liar....
Andy   (09.27.06)
who pranced all over New Jersey with his Governor boyfriend and for all practical purposes was an out GAY man. Gay bars, vacations...the works. What bullshit he's peddling back in Israel now. Move to Tel Aviv. Find a boyfriend and move on with your life. Nobody is impressed with your bullshit stories.
72. Golan
Doug ,   Detroit, MI   (09.27.06)
Golan's story doesn't pass the smell test. Are we to believe McGreevey went public just because he wanted to throw himself to the wolves? Or, maybe he was so depressed over Golan's rejection that he wanted to commit political suicide. Nahhh. I don't buy it.
73. 52 MIHOS
American ,   USA   (09.28.06)
his citizenship???? ---------- OF COURSE THIS FOREIGNER needed US citizenship- ----------HE HAS to be an AMERICAN---------- not an Israeli girlie boy that puts the safety of a foreign nation before the USA_ he was put into a high security position because he sucked you know what and this is both Mgreeveys fault and this honey trapper traitor .
74. Golan is lying
Bruce ,   Newark, NJ   (09.28.06)
They have both lied, both Golan is lying about the extent of his relationship with the ex-Gov.
75. I believe Golan
Paula Patterson ,   Kemp, U.S.A.   (09.28.06)
Just like Joseph with Potipher's wife in Genesis, hindsight is now 20/20 for you. (next time - turn & run!) Our politicians are so corrupt, Golan. Stay in Yisrael. God is going to judge U.S.A. soon. take care.
76. wrong focus
stevie ,   sf, nm   (09.27.06)
I don't know which side to believe, but I'm more prone to believe Golan. WHy? McGayvey's whole life was a lie, so why not concoct up one more. Also, I saw the recent interview on Oprah. OPrah's gone downhill. No one has questioned Mcgreevey about how he was so corrupt and has made the issue a gay one. We don't care if you're gay or had a hard time coming out. What no one talks about is how wrong he was by not telling his wife the truth, his kids? And not being a trustworthy politician that his constituents could trust. So what, if you've found your true partner, now? He put a lot of people through s*** just to satisfy his damn self now. and to top it off he guests on Oprah looking like, oh, the poor gay gov...who didn't dare come out of the closet and this led him to lead all these secret lives...Grow some hair on your chest and be a real man Greevey skeevey!
77. Cipel is probably lying
sk ,   USA   (09.28.06)
A brief Wikipedia article for background: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golan_Cipel I have no doubt that McGreevey should be behind bars and that he played the gay victim to justify his speedy resignation, in the hope that he wouldn't then be nailed legally. In fact, this was chuckled about at the time in such mainstream media outlets as ABC News (not a right-wing source). Also, I'm sure McGreevey is now making the most of bad situation and pandering to gays. However, a couple of issues just can't be explained away. McGreevey hired a guy (Cipel) who couldn't do his job even if he had the basic competence because he was a foreign national. Why? Cipel says he's all about integrity, and yet Cipel himself must have known that he couldn't do the job he was hired for. And, even when Cipel was formally refused intelligence clearance, he continued in a well-paying alternative job. Why? Does anyone believe that McGreevey was so obsessed with Cipel that he would do all these things just for the slight chance that he could get into Cipel's pants? C'mon. Anyway, McGreevey wasn't known for being exclusive with any one person. Blackmail charges were not pressed against Cipel, but neither were Cipel's charges of sexual harrassment pressed against McGreevey. Ultimately, I part ways with feminists: someone who is really being harrassed has the responsbility to make it known at the time or (less good) to leave the employment of the harrasser. As for McGreevey, he should be behind bars for hiring Cipel in the first place (and for other things, too).
78. more background on the dynamic duo
sk ,   USA   (09.28.06)
http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/news/mcgreevey/stories/20040815sl_mcg_unraveled.html
79. Isreali spies
Persian CAT   (09.28.06)
Golan is probably the curmmiest Israeli spy planted in the US. They come in all shapes, genders and "sexual orientations". You guys can't fool anyone except yourselves.
80. Never fear any man
Steve Lee ,   New York, NY   (09.28.06)
Truth always wins, Golan. The best part of your life is just around the corner. McGreevy's legacy is like Bill Clinton's. Shame.
81. I believe Golan
Debbie ,   Trenton, NJ USA   (09.28.06)
As a government employee in a "merit system" my career has been halted because of McGreevey and his devious endeavors. Golan was just one of many that he doled out jobs to and created a segregation umongst NJ employees, residents and vistors. I believe McGreevey was determined to "come out" and destroy Golan before Golan had the opportunity to destroy his Governship! Nonetheless, he is laughing all the way to the bank and the State of NJ taxpayers will take care of him and the woman and child he devilishly deceived. I wish for him to be plagued with issues for the rest of his life as a homosexual! He does not deserve to share the air we HUMANS breathe!
82. I believe You Golan instead of a corrupt politician
A.L. ,   New Jersey   (09.28.06)
I understand and believe your side of the story, which takes place in a state with a culture of corruption. Good luck in your future endevours.
83. re. polygraph
Morgan ,   atlanta,georgia   (09.28.06)
they both wont take it because questions maybe asked that brings lies in both stories to come out.
84. I relate to Cipel
Joyce ,   Los Angeles, USA   (09.28.06)
The same type of sexual harassment happened with me and my employer years ago. I didn't tell anyone because I loved my job and didn't want to lose it. I thought I could manage the guy and put an end to that type of behavior. And I did for awhile. But eventually he got physical with me again, and at that point I quit. Mostly because I feared for my physical safety. If I had been a guy I would have popped him one in the nose. I never told anyone. I should have. So I believe Cipel. He felt the same way I did/
85. Dishonest Intentions
LF ,   British Columbia   (09.28.06)
I have a beautiful daughter. She was recently interviewed and offered a good job working for a (married) lawyer in town. When she was leaving the office after the interview one of his female employees took her aside and told her "He hires girls he wants to have sex with. If you take this job you should know that, and if you don't mind the pressure go ahead". This goes on all the time and it does not mean the person hired is necessarily guilty of any misconduct. By the way, she turned down the job.
86. Golan Cipel
Rich ,   Indianapolis, USA   (09.28.06)
Good luck to you, Mister Cipel
87. Golan, you have NO credibility.
Szekely ,   Beverly Hills, CA US   (09.28.06)
You're just a lier. Anybody who takes your side is doing so because they are religious lunatics who hate gays. Israel is full them.
88. Another Democrat Blaming Someone Else
stepen colliers ,   boston, Mass   (09.28.06)
Cipel had an opportunity of a life time. McGreevey took advantage of him knowing in his Democratic mind, that the American Public would believe his story on the basis of his office. They did....only after one side of the story.....Like so many "leaders" of the Democratic party, McGreevey places blame on someone else to justify his disturbed self reality of denial in order to ease the heat for the Party, Period.
89. McGreevey vs. Cipel
john hechtlinger ,   fort lee, nj, usa   (09.28.06)
Only in America can a corrupt Governor have his sins washed away by a confession of being under a sexual compulsion. The same was true of Bill Clinton who allegedly raped a woman when he was a public official in Arkansas and displayed a pattern of sexual harassment that you would think would disqualify him from public life. But.. and this is the cruxt of the matter.. if you are a liberal Democrat you get a pass on this type of criminal behavior, because the media here for the most part only cares about your political orientation, not your sexual orientation. In fact, being gay is a plus in McGreevey's case because it generates misplaced sympathy by positioning the governor as a victim rather than the sociopathic predator that Cipel alleges (and I believe to be true).
90. New Jersey Scandal
Sully ,   Baltimore MD USA   (09.28.06)
In my opinion , the truth is likely the middle ground of two "storie". I think they are both disingenous
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