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Peretz: Israel didn't fire at German ship
Efrat Weiss
Published: 25.10.06, 20:05
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1. Lets wait and see
J K ,   NYC, USA   (10.25.06)
Before we all go off our rocker here, lets wait to find out what actually happened. I doubt Israeli fighter pilots mistook it for a Hizbullah frigate, but we dont have the whole story yet. Maybe the ships radar 'painted' the planes and an alarm went off and the pilot(s) got jumpy. Time will bring out the whole story....for now we have only the German version.
2. UNIFIL IS THERE TO "PROTECT" LEBANON AGAINST ISRAEL - DUH
andrew ,   miami,fl   (10.25.06)
3. Oh boy ...here we go
tzfati   (10.25.06)
4. Israel should show restraint
Y ,   N   (10.25.06)
and let hizbulla do the fighting with the UN.
5. A "diversion"
Rahab ,   USA   (10.25.06)
Can't help but wonder if this is not a "ploy" to take the German's off the front page for soldiers who posed with a skull and other body parts in Afghanistan. Nothing is ever as it "seems" anymore. Call me cynical. Blame Israel for this, the whipping boy...everyone will believe it anyway, everything is Israel's fault...THEY say.
6. the question is..
Lynne   (10.25.06)
what are Israeli warplanes doing in Lebanon??!! Israel is continiously violating the Lebanese soveriegnity.. Israeli planes are always flying over Beirut and this is certainly a violation of UN resolution 1701.. the UNIFIL are supposed to respond to Israeli violations!!
7. IAF jets should be fired at
Know the Enemy   (10.25.06)
All those flights over Lebanon wont return the 2 captured Soliders. Israel has to make prisoner swaps. Its the only way. Israel is lying the fact that those flights will help them controlling the Lebanese Syrian borders. There are no overflights over Iran yet the whole world knows if Iran has nukes or not and many other details. Israel is provoking Lebanon and Hezbollah. UNIFIL are bunch of coward impotent. There is no justice in this world. The Lebanese army should buy anticraft missiles from the black market in order to defend the country... ...Israel doesnt understand UNSC resolutions or dialogue...ONLY FORCEEEEEEE and " TERROR"
8. fact check, please
Aaron ,   Carbondale, IL, USA   (10.25.06)
Anti-missile flares I can believe, but a quick check of the publicly available literature suggests that none of Israel's F-16 models are equipped with guns, thus calling into question the report that "shots" were fired. Furthermore, if the aircraft had been equipped with guns, they would most likely be 20mm automatic cannons. I don't think those can shoot single shots. Had bombs been dropped or missiles fired, odds are the surviving German sailors would be on their way to an unexpected vacation in Haifa, and the vessel in question would be providing habitat for sea life. Someone needs to get their story straight.
9. #1 Radar
Sam Weinstein ,   USA   (10.25.06)
I doubt the Germans leaders would have deliberately painted the F16 with radar, but the French would have. I think in this case though it may have been a jumpy seaman or ship comander turning on the missle radar system and painting the jet. The french would have done so deliberately. But if this was a deliberate challange by the EU then they the UN will be playing with fire especially I have not seen one hand takened up against Hezbollah
10. Even the German don't know how to
Elie ,   Lebanon   (10.25.06)
manage with this stupid ( CRIMINAL)arrogance of IDF.
11. Professional army?
Jomjom   (10.25.06)
Israel has a well equipped and highly trained army. Therefore I doubt that both pilots mistook the German vessels as Hezbollah or unknown boats. Is it possible that some people in the Israeli army want to impress the UN troops in order to show who runs the show? I think the Israelis should pay respect to the international troops if they insist on rules for the other parties in the conflict. Sometimes I am surprised by the lack of discipline in the IDF as the killing of Unifil soldiers demonstrated.
12. don't kneejerk this..
common sense ,   my hometown   (10.25.06)
Lets not be like usual and kneejerk a response to this until all the facts are in.
13. HOW FAR CAN ISRAEL GO
AHMAD ,   LOS ANGELES   (10.25.06)
THIS IS THE WAY TO THANK THE INTERNATIONL FORCES WHICH CAME TO HELP THE DEFEATED ISRAELY FORCES IN LEBANON , WAR WILL NOT END THIS ENDLESS CONFLECT , STOP THE ACCUPATION AND TALK PEACE WITH THE WHOLE WORLD
14. Anti Semetic Zealots on this board
Sam Weinstein ,   USA   (10.25.06)
Well all I can say that the people who think the IDF should have been fired at and say nothing about the Hezbollah are either anti semetic lebanese or anti jewish in your thought pure and simple. This is the main reason we Jews don't trust the world.
15. Lets hope
joe   (10.25.06)
that actions like this will open the eyes of this idiots called politicians who support a NATO-membership of the rogue state Israel!
16.  Elie , Lebanon
joe   (10.25.06)
Elie, they know!! Angela Merkel just a few month ago made another approx 300 000 000 Euro downpay for the third Dolphin-class submarine for Israel - after the first two were delivered free of charge!!!
17. at last the world will see israeli provocations and
fadi ,   lebanon   (10.25.06)
aggressions over lebanon :)
18. Told you, UN is here to protect lebanon from israel !!
fadi ,   lebanon   (10.25.06)
19. the Germans and French have all the right to defend
fadi ,   lebanon   (10.25.06)
themselves... i think everyone remebers the famous incident of "Liberty".. the american intelligence collection vessel that israeli planes cold blooded attacked during 1967 war to cover up their attack and occupation of east bank and jerusalem
20. #10- Wrong again Elie
Uziel   (10.25.06)
It is the IDF who is managing (well for the moment) with the German-Eurabian arrogance, this is our neighborhood after all. And IDF knows best how to treat thugs in our hood, if it wasn´t for the political hindrances. BTW I´m curious, "Elie" is a name used by the christians in Lebanon. Are you a christian?
21. #6 Lynne #7 - A little biased eh
Ryan ,   Calgary, Canada   (10.25.06)
the UNIFIL are supposed to respond to Israeli violations, should state the UNIFIL are supposed to respond to any violations, have you deliberately left Hezbullah out of your statement. As long as UNIFIL won't disarm Hizbullah, I hope that f-16's serve as wake up calls to all lebanese. Nothing like a sonic boom at 5 in the morning to start the day. #7, Your right, they should start firing at the jets, and as long as we are on the topic of implementing UN resolutions, and shooting at the culprits that violate them, then under your own logic, NATO should invade lebanon and shoot at all members of Hizbullah that do not disarm, and since the kidnapped soldier is still missing, NATO should fire at lebanese government buildings and infrastructure too. It's only fair to shoot at both sides when violations occur from both sides.
22. #13 Ahmad
Ryan ,   Calgary, Canada   (10.25.06)
I agree with you, war will not win this conflict, so when are those stupid arab countries going to stop provoking Israel, all the wars have been declared by the arabs, I think that Islam worldwide needs to start talking peace with the whole world. If not stay in your nations of Islam, one would figure that an immigrant such as yourself would at least take the opportunity to get an education and learn to spell. There is no occupation, learn to recognize Israel is the path to peace. The UN should condemn all resistance actions from arabs as there is no occupation to resist, therefore the resistance is void of all argument.
23. WHY DID GERMANS SWITCH MISSILE RADAR ON FOR IAF
Alan ,   SA   (10.25.06)
What do the Germans expect? Why dont they go chase Hezballah?. Merkel is a wonderful lady, Germany too- but MAYBE the Einzatzgruppen Spirit lives on in the ordinary seaman and in his ships officers.Is that why they switched on the Anti Aircraft Radar SAM SONG for IAF The French ,we expect.
24. The arrogance!
Arabian Wolf   (10.25.06)
Israel behaves like they are above the law! Some nation must send BATTLESHIP to defend Lebanon! Just remember USS Liberty.
25. Now read again the new information :)
to Elie from msg 10 ,   Israel   (10.25.06)
and think about what you just said :P
26. Yes, Ahmad, I do agree !
Marcel Abel ,   (France)   (10.25.06)
Enough with violation of the Law and arrogance of some, always the same.
27. Sam Weinstein, AGAIN
Marcel Abel ,   (France)   (10.25.06)
Incredible reduction : we Jews are the world, all others (Gentiles) aliens ! Not convincing but hatefully clear !
28. Arabian Wolf -- Arrogance is right
Ryan ,   Calgary, Canada   (10.25.06)
It is pretty arrogant I agree, that all the arab countries want every resolution implemented against Israel, while they are giving leeway on there implementation of the resolutions. It is very arrogant.
29. Al-Reuters hezbolliwood in action?
Gaby ,   Boston, usa   (10.25.06)
Perhaps it was a photoshop from one it Reuters fauxtographers.
30. TO MR WEINSTIEN, USA
AHMAD ,   LOS ANGELES   (10.25.06)
THAT IS RIGHT THE WORLD IS BECOMING ANTI SEMETIC EVEN US YOUR''''''' SEMETIC COUSINS'''''IF YOU HAVE FORGOT OR YOU DID NOT KNOW ,PEOPLE LIKE YOU SHOULD GO LIVE IN HEAVEN ALONE
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