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Peretz: Israel didn't fire at German ship
Efrat Weiss
Published: 25.10.06, 20:05
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31. Whether or not it happened...
Hillel ,   Albany NY   (10.25.06)
It would be simple enough for a junior officer to stir up some good old memories and fevers in Germany by filing a report of what he think he saw, eh?
32. Ryan .. #21..
Lynne   (10.25.06)
yes, the UNIFEL are supposed to respond to any violations but Hezbollah had not violated 1701.. and this is not the first time Israel violates Lebanese air.. it had been doing this for years and years.. it's like having an annoying, disrespectful nieghbours who barges into your house every morning!!.. as long as Hezbollah are not attacking Israel the UNIFIL has no right to disarm them.. the UNIFIL are there to stop ANY violations and not to attack Hezbollah or Israel..
33. To Lynne #6
Nora ,   Israel   (10.25.06)
Actually Resolution 1701 hasnt gone into effect as what was agreed was that: 1) Hizbullah would be disarmed. 2) Kidnapped soldiers would be returned. 3) Hizbollah would be prevented from smuggling any more arms into Lebanon. None of the above have happened. Israel, on the other hand, has withdrawn from Lebanon (and now Hizbollah supporters frequently approach the border fence and throw rocks at our soldiers). Therefore, Israel continues to at least patrol Lebanese airspace to monitor and gather intelligence on smuggling activity.
34. HAH!! Jew/Israel hate bloggers gone wild on THIS talkback
malcolm   (10.25.06)
The pecentage is so high, it's comical ! Is it one professional blogger with many pen names or a convergence of lunatics? Suggestion: We enjoy mixing it up with the "regulars "like Fadi or Presscott but when they overplay their card like on this talkback, don't bother answering.
35. Lynne
Ryan ,   Calgary, Canada   (10.25.06)
Please read #33, then read #28. Hizbullah not disarming, = violation Hizbullah smuggling = violation Soldier unreturned = violation Throwing stones across the border = provacation Lebanon hasn't had control of its country for years and years. They have armed militias, Syrian, Iranian influence, assassinations, and civil wars. They are a threat to the surrounding territories. Now if it were the Greeks, or Syrians or Russians doing flyovers would you still argue. Probably not. Your opinion is biased therefore should be void you are just reinforcing mob mentality from the lebanese viewpoint. You make no sound argument.
36. To Lynne #6 - get it right!
FRed Nerks ,   Israel   (10.25.06)
Until: 1) Return of soldiers 2) Hizbullah disarmed 3) Hizbollah prevented from smuggling arms; Resolution 1701 is null and void! That was what all signatories to the resolution agreed to!!
37. #32, Lynne...again we see your flawed logic...
DR ,   Florida, USA   (10.25.06)
If my neighbor harbors terrorists that shoot at my house, you bet your ass I will be in there looking for them every morning, regardless of whether you are drinking coffee, peeing....I wouldn't give two shits. Israel has to patrol your stupid airspace, becuase your government can't. UNIFIL is a waste of money, time and space. They have been there for years and couldn't stop Hezballah from obtaining weapons. See how your logic doesn't work. Maybe at your dinner table when you're talking with your brainwshed family or friends, it makes sense, but in the real world, you lose every time.
38. #24 Arabian Wolf and Arrogance...
DR ,   Florida, USA   (10.25.06)
This whole conflict would have been avoided if it weren't for the arrogance of Nasrallah and Hezballah. They actually thought they can destroy Israel??? Idiots!! And what does that say about people like you who idolize them???
39. #13 Ahmad-inejad...
DR ,   Florida, USA   (10.25.06)
UNIFIL has been in the region for years now and has done nothing to stop weapons from coming from Iran and Syria through Lebanon to Hezballah, right? Have you not heard of the facts yet? So Israel will do whatever it takes to defend itself and stop this from happening. The international community can go kiss its own ass, beacuse they do not care for Israeli lives.
40. #19I think they remember how Hezbollah killed 240 US Marines
RA   (10.25.06)
41. #34 - Good post - these assholes who cruise Israeli websites
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (10.25.06)
are very amusing. Poor Fadi - sitting up there in Lebanon - criticizing this beautiful country of ours, Israel - while his country can't even handle its own without the militias financed by Iran and Syria. All the while he dreams of picking up women in Tel Aviv - none of whom would give him the time of day. Prescott is another gem - crying for the Palestinians who couldn't build a State if one came to their door in a kit for assembly. The incompetence and blood thirst is appalling. These people aer laughable. But the more they talk - Israel is growing more beautiful and strong every day.
42. We dont need UNIFIL .. israel can protect its own borders
sharon ,   israel   (10.25.06)
and especially we dont need french and german anti semitists as ;part of this UNIFIL force !!!!
43. They didn' t ? Too bad....
(10.25.06)
44. ''shots''?
(10.25.06)
''two''' ''shots''???? have you seen what an f-16s nose mounted gun does when it fires? you dont get ''two'' you get dozens! 'two'' my ass probably was x 2 sonic booms (one for each jet) over the ship just to piss the crew off and annoy them
45. THANK YOU RYAN
AHMAD ,   LOS ANGELES   (10.25.06)
THANKS FOR YOUR KIND WORDS,,,AND YOUR SPELL CHECK,,,, BUT I GUESS YOU NEED TO LOOK FOR WHAT I MEANT BY MY WORDING ,,,, START LOOKING FOR PEACE INSTEAD OF WHO IS RIGHT AND WHO IS WRONG,,,, NEVER MENTIONED RESISTANCE BUT SINCE YOU AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU KEEP THINKING LIKE THAT WE NEED KINDER PEOPLE TO RESIST THEM FROM ALL FAITHS
46. TO DR, FLORIDA , USA
AHMAD ,   LOS ANGELES   (10.25.06)
THAT REINFORCES MY IDEA AND ANYONE IN HIS RIGHT MIND TO TALK PEACE , NO NEED TO ISOLATE YOUR SELFS,,,WHAT MADE ALL THOSE PEOPLE FIGHT YOU AND HATE YOU ,,,,WE DON'T WISH FOR ANOTHER HOLYCOST NOR YOU AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO CUASE THE JEWS TO GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN , POWERS WILL SHIFT ,,POLITICS WILL CHANGE ,,REMEMBER THAT
47. I read and posted this first on Haaretz
Joe ,   Ohio, USA   (10.25.06)
While the Haaretz article and this were written by two different people, the facts in both coincide so I'll post it here also. Israel scrambled 2 jets because "a helicopter took off from a German aircraft carrier in waters close to Rosh Hanikra without identifying itself in accordance with United Nations regulations." And, "The incident was quickly solved without confrontation, the spokesman said, and only flares were fired." Also "The jets also activated infra-red countermeasures to ward off any rocket attack, the paper quoted him as saying," (Note the quotation marks) I've carefully read this article several times and I see where Israel did nothing but follow what I would consider to be prudent standard operating procedures One could consider this article to be nothing more that a Rorschach test for one's own person opinions. Fire your mouth off with nothing more than a half cocked opinion, and your worse than what you have accused Israel for by far!
48. Just disgusting
(10.26.06)
The comments I read here are just disgusting. :-( You seem to be as prejudiced towards todays Germans as the Nazis were towards the jews. That's really sad. Mr. Olmert asked the Germany navy to do this job and invited them. It seems you clowns missed that. If you don't need German help for your defense then you should give back your new german-made U-Boats withe nuclear second-strike capability and cancel the order of the two additional U-boats that Israel made after the Lebanon war. You should also cancel the contract for the Dingo armored troop carrier that will protect your soldiers in the territories. In fact, Germany is Israel's best friend and her biggest supporter (open and covert) in Europe, even if some of you dislike this truth. Shalom from Germany, my Israeli friends!
49. I think...
A. ,   Ger   (10.25.06)
...the pilot just wanted to fire a gun salute. If he knew this would cause a war between fanatics in talkback sections - he wouldn't have done it.
50. German ship
Joe Simon ,   Kfar Aviv, Israel   (10.26.06)
It will be interesting to see if the EU force is only there to "Stop Israel" or if they are effective against Hizbulla - which should be the prime target. After all, Israel did not start the fighting. Hizbulla kidnapped Israeli soldiers from Israeli territory and them added injury to insult by firing thousands of rockets at innocent Israeli civilians. What did they expect Israel to do, say "Thank you for trying to kill us?"
51. GEMANY DIDN`T CHANGE IN 60 YEARS!!
MEI 1 ,   JERUSALEM   (10.26.06)
52. 46. God's word never changes...it also comes true
(10.26.06)
Arabs don't have Israel on their maps - what other history are they ignorant of? For starters, here's a map. http://www.conceptwizard.com/conen/conflict_2.html Anti-Semites / Israel: See the video and be eternally ashamed. Video's a bit grainy but well worth watching. Israel, Islam and Armageddon http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3646238152925351957&q=israel%2C+islam DVD video quality. http://www.thebereancall.org/products/dvd051.php -----------------
53. Lynne
Randy ,   Bethesda, MD, USA   (10.26.06)
Israel has every right to conduct surveillance over the rearming of Hizbollah, given that the terrorists are rearming in violation of the resolution. Besides, there's nothing in the resolution that says Israel cannot overfly Lebanon, especially in light of the many violations by Hizbollah and its various supporters.
54. Re #6
resolutioner ,   USA   (10.26.06)
do you know ANY un resolution obeyed by iSSrael?
55. NAVY STORIES !
Marcel Abel ,   (France)   (10.26.06)
Two battleships met in the night and began to attack each other. In the conflict, a number of crewmen were severely wounded, and both vessels were damaged. As daylight broke, the sailors on the ships discovered to their amazement that both vessels flew the English flag. With all modern, sophisticated appliances could the same happen today ? Yes, when Jewish planes fly too low over helping, German ships. Yes, Sir.
56. motives behind deliberate bombing USS liberty & UNIFIL post
observer   (10.26.06)
Look at the blocked testimonies and conclude by yourself. Help yourself on; http://www.wrmea.com/backissues/0693/9306019.htm http://szamko.gnn.tv/blogs/17061/Israel_bombs_UN_position_Canadian_feared_killed
57. #52 other than Biblical ones; what do you have as proof?
(10.26.06)
Sorry to let you down and say; I have found it cheap propaganda. Although I do not agree with you, I will not argue your belief that you have biblical right and bilical history that go to the Land. But, just till me -wahat all of you failed to present - what is your proof "other than Bilical ones" that you have the right for the Land.
58. #8 you are more brilliant than Peretz, who could not
observer   (10.26.06)
present such excuse. Hear by, I would be honored to nominate you for defense minister! Even Peretz would not dare to come up with such "solution” !
59. Israel's whim & will for continuous surveillance fliight
observer   (10.26.06)
Before and immediately after UNSCR 1701 being effective, Israel did not hide its intention to continue its unilaterally declared right of flight over Lebanon. It has not admitted the saying that; “you could not cross the bridge before reaching it”
60. #48 started with disgust; ended with good feelings
(10.26.06)
why no such "good feelings" go also to the Lebanese. Germany was invited as well by Lebanon to the UNIFIL to protect its sovreignty. The Lebanese do not have U-boats and do not have any other effective arms, but they trust the Germans as "good" friends.
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