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PA paper: Jews fan flames of evil
Yaakov Lappin
Published: 31.10.06, 12:43
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1. its true
Mark ,   Kansas   (10.31.06)
What in Israel belongs to Israel? Israel was formed out of terror..so basically Israel should just be what the British Mandate is..doesn't even include Jerusalem..so yes, Jaffa, Haifa, and Akko does belong to Palestinians..nothing wrong about that. It's Israel that has to realise that it is a temporary country, thats all.
2. Nazi-Arab tactic....
Dan ,   Israel   (10.31.06)
worship Hitler and at the same time accuse eveyone else of being "racist". Mr Goebbels would have been proud of his pupils in Gaza.
3. Bravo #1
Aaron   (10.31.06)
People like Mark out in Kansas show a great lack of history. Sure, Israel was much smaller in 1948 than it is presently, but alot of territory was disputed - still is today. Also consider the amount of wars fought (initiated by Arabs) that have taken place. Israel took the West bank in 1967 because of the fierce attack that was launched from the area. Syrian planes off the Golan heights had devestating effect. Previously, the area had been annexed by Jordan in 1950 (recognized only by Pakistan and the UK). Israel laid claim to parts of the land as well. It was a contentious issue then, as it is now. To merely reduce all Israeli history to 'Israel was formed out of terror' is short-sighted and thinly veils poor anti-Israeli rhetoric. Israel is not a temporary country. It's here to stay. The faster everyone wraps their head around that, the faster peace will ensue. About the article: Abu Mazen, Hamas, Fatah, etc...are all cut from the same 'death to Israel' cloth. They just say it in different ways. There seems to always be the Zionist world conspiracy at play in the Arab world (and to a lesser extent, the moderate, far and extreme left in the West). The evidence for our Jewish world conspiracy? Zilch. But that doesn't dissuade them. Shalom
4. Send a copy to Condoleeza Rice
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (10.31.06)
You can bet it won't be reported on CNN or BBC either. If I hear someone call Abu Mazen a moderate one more time, I may vomit.
5. Peace is just around the corner
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (10.31.06)
Retreat to the '67 lines... Give away the Temple Mount and the Western Wall... Give away Jerusalem... Expel 350,000 Jews... Peace will rule, rainbows and unicorns will appear and hundred-dollar bills will rain from the sky.
6. The Jewish Conspiracy
yahoud ,   london england   (10.31.06)
It's a great idea. Let's dominate the world. It'll be difficult to do on our own so I suggest that we get together with our Muslim cousins (fellow Semites) who are looking to create a global caliphate. We can sort out the technical details later.
7. It's all the Jews' fault!
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (10.31.06)
Does anyone still believe any of that rhetoric, other than for what it may portend? Besides, we don't need some PA news rag to tell us that Jews are evil and that it's all the Jews' fault. Just ask Mel Gibson! He knows; especially after he's had a snootful. All what? Who knows, who cares! Just "all," excluding, of course, hurricanes, earthquakes, global warming, sun flares, the next ice age and the destruction of the Twin Towers. Those were Bush's, Cheney's and their Saudi buddies' doing. I have to admit:, though: You guys sure go to a lot of trouble for I cannot, for the life of me, figure out what. In the meantime, we're just happy to sit on our butts, point fingers and do nothing. After all, it's all the Jooooooooooooooooooos' fault. If there's a G-d, he must be laughing Himself silly.
8. Oh please, can't you do any better?
Libneniyyeh ,   Lebanon   (10.31.06)
Let us for a moment pause to consider how artfully ynet's Lappin constructs his article. First, he carefully selects loaded words that are sure to create the right mental image in the minds of readers already predisposed to believing such 'terrorizing' views. He uses "blaming" rather than "stating" (which I think would be more appropriate for a number of reasons. He quotes "fanning the flames of evil.." while completely aware that this is what he himself is doing. He is careful to point out that article was made available by PMW (further "evidence" of Pro-Palest "propaganda"!). He further peppers his article with terms such as "conspirational", and "plotting". He quotes Itamar Marcus ("vicious anti-semitic, blah blah, blah"), as he is the supposed authority on Palestinian media. And of course, this article comes straight from the Pres himself, since the paper is owned by Palestinian Authority. Suddenly, the media becomes in the hands of Abbas, meaning he is responsible for the spreading of all this hatred....and on and on, till our author, who has truly outshone himself, mentions how the little children are in fact monsters who are soon to shed their lambs clothing and become vicious, angry terrorists to whom "justice" is the destruction of Israel. Wow. What exactly do you mean by "detocication" Mr. Lappin? It seems your article is toxic enough as it is. Why doesn't your Marcus see the abject hatred in your own article for a change? The underlying loathing and fear that rises from under your words like a bubble to burst at the surface with a rotten pop. Careful how you choose your words - language will inevitably give you away.
9. Point proven
Libneniyyeh ,   Lebanon   (10.31.06)
Oh, and talkback of Aaron completely proves what I just said: He writes: "Abu Mazen, Hamas, Fatah, etc...are all cut from the same 'death to Israel' cloth. They just say it in different ways. There seems to always be the Zionist world conspiracy at play in the Arab world (and to a lesser extent, the moderate, far and extreme left in the West). The evidence for our Jewish world conspiracy? Zilch. But that doesn't dissuade them." Yes, there is a world conspiracy in the plotting by Arabs and extreme Left westernetrs all out to get the jews. Sheesh. Im sorry that such a large percentage is completely taken by the Israeli Gov. tactics. Israel always "defends itself", never "attacks". Always acts in "retaliation", never in aggression. Absolutely not. Oh, but if there chances to be some goodies available for the taking (like extra land and water), then yes, sure, why not take hold of that land in the process of "self defense"?
10. based on recent performance
Michael Steiner   (10.31.06)
like the Lebanon massacre, I'd say the guy is spot on... IF Israel would simply disappear there would be no war in the middle east. Food for thought huh?
11. #1...Mark-Abdullah-Al-Tikriti...
DR ,   Florida, USA   (10.31.06)
Thank you for one of the dumbest talkbacks ever. Gave me a good chuckle. But, still, the fact remains that there are people like you in this world and it makes everything harder for us "normal" people. There will, never be peace as long as racist, backwards thikers like you are around. Again, thanks!
12. #8...very nicely put...BUT...
DR ,   Florida, USA   (10.31.06)
You can't deny the reality that Arab and Muslim media, in general, are very biased and don't always paint the right picture. The truth is somehow lost and the people receive false information. Not to mention all the cartoons depicting Jews as snakes, blood sucking monsters, big-nosed goons etc. All this would have surely started riots in your world.
13. #5
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (10.31.06)
You keep the rainbows and unicorns. I'll take the $20's. 1) I'm colorblind, and 2) I wouldn't know what to feed those things.
14. #8: And yet you ignore the PA's words
Zvi ,   USA   (10.31.06)
Idiot.
15. Who wrote it Mel Gibson ? (nm)
RyanH ,   Ashdod Israel   (10.31.06)
16. #8
Abdel ,   Nablus   (10.31.06)
Right on libneniyyeh!! Ynet always do that, I used to think of them as a better news source, nowadays they are just a right wing media outlet .... Nothing more. They cherry-pick their news, and they quote a sheikh in Somalia, or an idiot aqsa-brigade nobody as being the representatives of Palestinians, or even Muslims. they really went down the drain especially this last year.......go interview some of your settlers, and right wing Israeliā€™s and see what they say about the other side, will those opinions represent all the Israeli public? I don't think so, or at least I hope they don't. Even better just interview some of the hate spewing idiots over here, and write articles about that........! Shameful journalism...!!!
17. Hey Number one on e question........................
observer ,   World   (10.31.06)
what came first a. Judaism b.Christianity c. Islam (in the 7th century) (now this should not be too hard for your fried rube brain(less) red-neck @$$ since i placed them in order) next who is the first terrorist? a.Moses b.Jesus c. Mo-HAM-head (mohammed) who murdered the khaibar jews of saudi-arabia and then conquered and OCCUPIED the middle east including Israel By THE SWORD. GO GROW STUFF, They are good at that in kansas, too bad for you, tht you cant grow a BRAIN :-)
18. This is the reason why we need Moshe Feiglin as PM
Joel ,   Kiryat Arba   (10.31.06)
19. palis hate Jews?
Arie ,   Afula   (10.31.06)
The dickens you say?
20. Hm.. lets blame the jews.
DK ,   Israel   (10.31.06)
Communist Revolution? Eh.. lets blame the jews. Jesus? Eh.. lets blame the jews. WW1? Eh.. lets blame the jews. WW2? Eh.. lets blame the jews. Nagasaki and Hiroshima? Eh.. lets blame the jews. Nothing new to me... The rising of the antisemetism. BTW, check out the history, 50% of the biggest scientists and peopel who gave a lot to the humanity are jews. http://www.globaljewishcommunity.com
21. To 14 and others like him
Libneniyyeh ,   Lebanon   (10.31.06)
I did not not stoop to calling anyone anyone - but then your choice of words reflects who you are, so who gives a straw? For ur info, what I was attacking was the absurd hypocrisy of the article - an obvious case of preaching what is not practiced. But then I wouldn't expect you to get it so its alright. There are four walls in your room I presume - pick one to bang your head on.
22. "Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against The West"
(10.31.06)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6331994107023396223
23. # 1 Mark, you are a buffoon
SAM ,   USA   (10.31.06)
Living in Kansas isnt living in a temporary country? Forget how our forefathers concurred this country? Are you or any American willing to give it back if, for some crazy miracle, American Indians can win back some of thier territorial homeland? sound familiar? like ISRAEL!! Should Native Americans and thier liberal supporters start a terrism campain against the likes of you and people like you? Would that be right? Legitamately, we (white Europeans) are the Palistinians in America. We have been here for centuries, just like Arabs in the holy land. The Arab in Palistine is no different than the European in this country. The Arab needs to recognize that 1) Jews are people with rights, which they havent had for thousands of years under Arab rules, 2) recognize Jews have legitamet historical rights to the land and 3) they are there and are not leaving. Wake up fool. Maybe you would be a happy man if some American Indian Terrorists just murdered your family in the name of liberation. With your style of thinking, They would be doing the right thing . Fool
24. What do you expect from those who deny the truth?
David ,   Boston, USA   (10.31.06)
Abbas is a Holocaust denier. Hamas calls for killing Jews in its Charter. Both are evil. The Arabs try to maintain a controlable level of violence to deflect the truth that their situation is a result of their leaders failure to want to improve their lives and want to blame others. Almost 1 million Jewish refugees. The majority went to Israel. Most are doing well, generation after generation. Look at what the UN, Arab world, Eurabia, did for Arab refugees. Stick them in camps. Not only refuse to help them, but refuse to let Israel help them. They dont even know history, but are taught propaganda as historical facts. I used to feel sorry for these people, but now only contempt. Do yourselves a favor, take your anger out on your own leaders, not Israel. They are the ones preventing you from succeeding. Gaza is a perfect example. Instead of using the hot houses given by Jews to the local Arabs for economic growth, the arabs ransack them twice. Instead of creating jobs, they smuggle weapons. Stop struggling against peace and prosperity. Do you really want a second Arab Palestinian state or not? Otherwise, Jordan Palestine is all there will ever be.
25. ABBAS: Little Jihad is Over, BIG JIHAD STARTS
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (10.31.06)
Military analysts repeatedly warned giving away Gaza would create an Hamas terror state. Utterly indifferent to Israel's security, Israeli leaders ruthlessly ethnically cleansed 10,000 Jews and gifted Gaza to global jihadists PA/PLO/Hamas/Al Qaida, et al - creating Hamastan, Global Islamic Terror State One. In order to duplicate the terrorist success of Gaza, the U.S. EU UN demand the creation of Global Islamic Terror State Two in the Jewish ancestral homeland of Biblical Judea and Samaria advancing global jihad's unopposed march to world domination and Jewish annihilation. Abbas tells the truth about his genocidal intentions in Arabic. When Abbas gives speeches in English the U.S. UK and EU require that Abbas does not reveal the PLO/Palestinian Authority goal of Islamic conquest of all Israel. Abbas: Little Jihad is over, Big Jihad starts http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=75030 STOP Inciting Children to Kill ! http://www.teachkidspeace.com/flash.php They call the war against the Jews, the peace process. http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/PalestinianChildAbuse
26. Mark from Kansas: give back your country to the Indians
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27. Well well..."If it's in the News then It's true!! "
Ramzi Sfeir ,   Bethlehem, Palestine   (10.31.06)
The problem is bigger than " Anti-Semitism" Palestinians are nowadays hating themselves more than anybody else! Yes, The palestinian authority is facing a huge crisis, and is not being able to look at it's own and correct it's own mistakes and the Arab pride is our worst Enemy! It's easy to keep saying it's everybody else's fault! And it's easy to talk about liberty of press, it's easy to say a lot of things! Palestinians don't have liberty of press by Nature, it's not that the editor of a newspaper would refuse to publish something, it's that the journalist himself would avoid writting articles about the Palestinian society! Israel is not perfect either, But israel criticizes israel! And that's what we, in palestine, should learn to do! Being under occupation is horrible, being under siege is horrible, But being ignorant is worse! I guess that before resolving the conflict with israel, we should start looking in front of our own noses and start by fixing our own conflicts between each other! I am not trying to impose my version of the story on anyone here, and i am not defending israel whatsoever! all i am saying is that we need Self retrospection and i am proud to be one of the few palestinians who say "we don't agree", The current palestinian authority has no right whatsoever to speak in my name because i don't agree with it or with it's methods! It's time to wake up and say " Enough" and personally, all i can say is that on the next elections, i know my duty and my responsability as a Palestinian Citizen, I am aware of the importance of my next choice! Next elections, i am voting for moderation, for Opening, for civilisation and peace,for prosperity and social progress, for Order and security, for social welfare! Yes, next time, we all should make a choice! and next time we should all say " my vote counts", and if you dont find any party to vote for, you can try to create your own party! YES! this is what democracy means! We should wake up and start moving! We need a serious political opposition, we need a serious political leadership, we need serious citizens! This is the only way towards our national goals and dreams....And for those of you readers who have doubts, our national dreams, my national dreams , are a prosperous palestinian state with reasonable borders, airspace, sea and with part of greater jerusalem as it's capital! For sure, my version of this State doesnt have any Religion as far as i am concerned....
28. It is anti-Semitism, stupid
Casiopea   (10.31.06)
not the "occupation". The so-called "occupation" is just an excuse of the so-called "Palestinians" to justify jihad on Jews.
29. Ramzi #27
yahoud ,   London England   (10.31.06)
Are there many like you out there? If so, I've got a suggestion. Why not put aside violence for a few years and begin to create an atmosphere of peace (or at least quiet)? I reckon that the Israelis will gradually follow suit by letting up on the pressure. If they don't feel threatened then there's no reason why they should act violently towards you. I can assure you that it is not in the Jewish nature or psyche to assume physical dominance over others. And the Jews are not expansionists either. They're pragmatic; even those who believe in a greater 'Eretz Yisrael' would much prefer to have a peaceful slightly lesser Eretz Yisrael. The only reason that you are experiencing a tough regime is because the Israelis feel that if they let up the pressure then you will attack them. It's seen as a matter of survival. Convince them that you're not an existential threat and see how nice they'll become. Show a willingness to compromise on some of the territorial issues and they'll positively embrace you. But be warned; this cannot be achieved overnight. Building mutual trust takes many, many years. Destroying it can be achieved in moments. I am not talking about a Hudna here. Not a temporary respite to allow enemies to regroup. If people of good faith show a real willingness to work together amazing things can be achieved. Just keep the thugs away.
30. Absurd, who startes all the wars?
Kissel   (10.31.06)
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