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Olmert: Willing to give up land for real peace
Anat Bereshkovsky
Published: 27.11.06, 13:48
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61. So easy to bitch about it...
Israel   (11.27.06)
Every single one of you here scream and bitch and moan about Olmert, but not one person has come up with an alternative way to achieve peace. Not to give them land? duh! that didn't work - use aggressive force? duh! that didn't work either. When the cards are on the table, the only way is to give land - as painful as it is. But I also feel it should only be up to a point and not to give the animals everything they demand. So unless any of you can come up with an alternative, I suggest you stop bitching and judging.
62. #61 an alternative
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (11.27.06)
How abut this: For every act of terror, Palestinians should LOSE land. Bulldoze everything, reoccupy the land, and push the hostiles further back. Being wishy-washy about it won't work. "The only way is to give land"--SHOWN CONCLUSIVELY NOT TO WORK because you will run out of land before they run out of "peace." No, the only way is to TAKE land and don't be wimpy about it.
63. Reply to "So easy to bitch about"
(11.27.06)
If we give back land they arn' t happy and if we use agressive force they arn't happy, so I completely disagree in giving back more land, it will just be another opurtunity for them to fire rockets from another place. You can't reward them for terrorizing us daily.
64. Give up Whose Land?
A Christian ,   USA   (11.27.06)
HaShem will NOT give up His Land. It is for the descendants of Abraham, ISAAC and JACOB only! Do NOT listen to Bush!
65. President Bush needs his legacy
Monk ,   USA   (11.27.06)
66. #61 "So easy to bitch about it"
Steve ,   USA   (11.27.06)
You wrote: "Every single one of you here scream and bitch and moan about Olmert, but not one person has come up with an alternative way to achieve peace...." I will try to address your challenge but I warn you, you will not like my answer. #1) There is no way to achieve peace with jihadists other than defeat them militarily. Still this will not bring peace this side of the long-awaited messianic age. Until then there will be war, so get this idea of making peace with savages out of your mind. Do you believe there was a way to make peace with Nazism other than crushing it? The best we Jews can hope for visa vis the Muslim Arabs is a "cold" peace; a stand-off. But this can only come when the Arabs fear Israel. Giving land to the jihadists rightly indicates weakness and capitulation in the Muslim Arab eye, not strength and resolve. #2) You must ultimately come to the conclusion that Muslim Arabs and Jews will NEVER co-exist in the same land on an "equal" basis. NEVER. Not EVER! Until you reach this proper and sober conclusion all else is delusion on your part. Arabs must be persuaded to leave the leave the Holy Land. Jews must be willing to compensate the Arabs at an agreed-to fair price and maybe above an agreed-to fair price. The land belongs to the Jews. We haven't the right to give it to our enemies. Maybe one or two Arabs might be willing to live peaceably side by side the Jews in our land. Maybe. When the cards are on the table, this is the only realistic solution. The Arabs must ultimately leave. They have hundreds of thousands of square miles of land (much of it oil-rich) that Allah gave to them. We only have this tiny piece of real estate. This is all we've got and it is ours; all of it.
67. #45: Fred, we
Hamas Spokesman   (11.27.06)
68. #45 Fred: We'll help you move back to Nerksland
Hamas Spokesman ,   Gaza   (11.27.06)
Send us your address and we will help you pack up and move back to whatever foreign country a "Nerks" comes from when the Palestinians return to reclaim our land. Pack your bags and get ready to leave as one of my Hamas brothers will be moving into your house, thanks to Olmert/Peretz/Peres and other Israeli idiots.
69. Sharon was brain dead before his stroke, just like Olmert.
Yacov ,   Ashkelon   (11.27.06)
Sharon was brain-dead before he had his stroke, giving up Gaza and using the IDF to attack Jews and throw them out of their homes and synagogues. Olmert/Peretz are also braindead. They just haven't had their strokes yet.
70. These comments : Obstacles to Peace
Mark ,   usa   (11.27.06)
Praise Olmert
71. CIVIL WAR IN ISRAEL A REAL POSSIBILITY
Sam Weinstein ,   USA   (11.27.06)
Olmert is leading israel straight to a Civil War
72. Olmert the spineless listening to his leftist wife and kids
Frankie   (11.27.06)
73. Omert
mike ,   canada   (11.27.06)
I am astounded that this failue is still in power without a single demonstration demanding a none confidence vote in the Knesset to force new elections. The Omert and perez tag team support each other to tay in power apparently they don't care how many lives it costs >>> I hope the Israeli people do. You need leaders who care about Isaelies and to hell with everything else
74. OLMERT GO HOME BEFORE YOU DESTROY OUR COUNTRY.
Miriam ,   Israel   (11.27.06)
75. Munich 1938
Freddy Speaker ,   Antwerp   (11.27.06)
Could someone send a book about the Munich pact 1938 to Olmert!
76. to give up land
silvio ,   italy   (11.27.06)
Israel where must retire, perhaps in the Mediterranean Sea? Look at territory as Israel has and as the Moslems have!
77. Time for new elections, Olmert, we don't trust you, go home!
Sharon ,   Kiryat Shmona   (11.27.06)
78. Pissing on Ben Gurion's grave
Ilan ,   Ariel   (11.27.06)
Olmert is guilty of misleading the public by throwing out the impression that this pretend cease fire is a prelude to global peace. This is a desecration of Ben Gurion's Zionist ideology by someone who never believed in anything more than naked self-interest. Nothing is sacred to Olmert it seems.
79. Lieberman for PM NOW!!!!
(11.27.06)
Who cares if he has ties to the mob, if he will fight the terrorists and NOT give up our land, then its time to push for new elections and my vote goes to Yisrael Bejtenu. We need political reform and a REALIST view on how to deal with the Palestinian terrorists. I am shocked that our plan of 'attack' is to give up land, Hey I know, why dont I march me and my family into the sea now. It will save the Arabs so much time from having to push me in. Yeah right, We fight to the last man. Olmert OUT!!!!!!!!
80. He has a 7% approval rating what authority does he have
nobody ,   us   (11.27.06)
There are many americans that don't respect israelies like condoleeze rice and George Bush. All of us aren't incompetent and we don't want you to hate us.
81. Olmert is right, look how well it worked in Gaza
(11.27.06)
What a complete tool. Olmert really thinks that by conceding land weapons and money, Israel will know peace with the Palestinians??? Gaza was a disaster. Israel pulled out and the Palestinians were galvanized. They thought we left because we had lost. And now, they think the same thing. And don't think it has nothing to do with Bush trying to tie in Syria and Iran to help in Iraq (another stupid idea). Olmert might want to be the darling of the EU/leftists but he has pissed me off. Why doesn't he move to France with all the other appeasers? I see some people saying new elections, anyone know the law on how to get this ball rolling...I imagine writing your MK and protesting outside their offices for the no-confidence vote. If a leader had a platform that was something like...Zionism is our aim, terror will NOT be tolerated, NO MORE giving up of land, leave the religious alone, leave the seculars alone and more money to security, education and business enterprise...I think you'd have a winner
82. #31, Linda
Connie ,   VA, USA   (11.27.06)
I clicked on one of the sites you had posted. The one about the children being brought up to hate and use weapons from the time they're in diapers. They are in reality sacrificing their children to the devil.
83. Where is the Opposition?
Brod ,   USA   (11.27.06)
Where is the Opposition on all these? Israel should never give away its biblical and historic homeland of Judea and Samaria which the GOD of Israel helped regain it from the occupier and usurper Arab Islamist-Jihadists in its War of Survival of 1967. Israel should not be conned into giving in to Islamist-Jihadist engineered external pressures by giving away its GOD-given land to GOD's arch enemies. This move is being manipulated by anti-Jews/anti-Israel elements who are being controlled by Arab Islamist-Jihadist entities. The fact is, whatever carrot is being offered is not tangible. This is because peace does not exist in the heart, mind and soul of Arab Islamist-Jihadists. They are thought from childhood to hate and kill Jews. Hence, the talk of peace is their biggest trick to he Jews/Israel to surrender their biblical and historic homeland by way of deception and manipulations. It is time the Opposition champions the national security interests of the State of Israel including its biblical and historic homeland of Judea and Samaria. It is time the Opposition becomes the Voice of the vast majority of Israelis who do not want external entities meddling in its internal affairs and compromising its national security interests and existence as a sovereign country. It is time for a Vote of NO CONFIDENCE and a new election.
84. Wich Peace?
Tejo   (11.27.06)
Its Olmerts words against the words of HaShem!
85. Peace for given up land ?
JOHN SCHUMANN ,   VANC.CANADA   (11.27.06)
YAHVEY told in His WORD [Bible not to part His land [Joel 1.6,3.2].The leaders of Israel [isaiah 9.16,Zech 11.11-13,Matthew 20.18, 27,Acts 3.14] cosnpired against YESHUA HaMashiach .The ungodly are still want to forstall the KINGDOM of the SON of DAVID [Matthew 21.9,Zech 12-14] ,who is the SON of GOD [Psalm 2,Micah 5.2,Matthew 1-3,Luke 1-3,John 1,Romans 1-11]have not the faith of Abraham,Issac,Jacob and David but are in opposition to the HOLY ONE of Israel [ Jer. 7,Luke 19-24,Romans 9-11] as they were against Moses [Numbers 16] of old and later Stephen and Paul ,who was Saul of Tarsus etc.[Acts 1-4,7-9] as recordd in HOLY WRITE.[BIBLE].
86. Land for peace
Josh ,   Isreal   (11.27.06)
So what happens to Olmert when the land he promises is gave to the pa and the violence and war restarts,i mean how many times do you have to try to achieve peace before it sinks in that the palestininans and their backers donot want it.
87. Someone willing to give peace a chance.
Troy ,   Florida   (11.27.06)
Good for him. Screw the radicals on boths sides of the argument... including those posting here. Someone is holding out a hand in peace. God forbid someone go against anger and hatred.
88. To extend Steve's (66) point and even include Kyle (62)
sk ,   USA   (11.28.06)
Not only do the Arabs have to leave all of Mandate Israel (thus including Yesha), but Israel might well need to become larger than it is. If war is launched from the north, Israel should defeat it and annex the territory. Only when Israel can become larger than it is will it be secure. Every time Israel "negotiates," it loses before a single word is uttered.
89. #87 radicals: better to have a stand that no stand at all
gabriela ben ari ,   jerusalem   (11.28.06)
it is the "parve" kind of people who brought Kadima to power. People who don't distinguish black from white, left from right, who just "flow with crowd" and have sadly no guts to show some spine. Btw, figuring out how to survive, is NOT being radical. Life is to be taken passionately, "radically and fully
90. Poor ben Gurion! (end)
David ,   Bostondavidm313@comc   (11.28.06)
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