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Rabbi Metzger: Boycott Neturei Karta participants of Iran conference
Neta Sela
Published: 14.12.06, 02:36
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31. Neturei Karta
Vicki ,   Kadima, Israel   (12.14.06)
I am in pleasant shock, that for once so far the talkbackers here are in agreement with the article and what to do with these scum bags. They do not deserve a home in Israel, (why they choose to live here is beyond me) they do not believe in Israel, so they should be thrown out. Better still the ones who went to Iran should not be allowed back in. They are a complete disgrace to the jewish religion and traitors to Israel. Yet again Israel won't do anything about them. So we Israeli's and fellow jews should take up the slack, petition against them, rally outside their homes in Meah Sharim, what Chutspah to even live in Meah Sharim. I have been sickened to see these excuses of human life to be in close contact with Ahmadinejad throw them out NOW.
32. TOTAL CHEREM, EXCOMMUNICATION, BOYCOTT
Umm El Kul Naqba   (12.14.06)
Two Days ago at the first article on the Netura Kartei in Iran I wrote calling for a total boycott of Mea Shearim. I agree with all others that there should be a total cherem, boycott, and excommunication. This means that 1. NO JEW SHOULD SHOULD BUY ANYTHING IN MEA SHEARIM 2. THEY SHOULD BE TOTAL CUT OFF FROM ISRAEL MEANING THEY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO MARRY OTHER JEWS/ISRAELIS 3. THEY SHOULD HAVE ALL GOVT. SERVICE SUCH AS ELECTRICITY AND WATER AND GARBAGE DISPOSAL ETC. IMMEDIATELY CUT OFF. THEY SHOULD BE SO CUT OFF THAT THEY CAN'T ENJOY ANY BENEFITS OF THE STATE THAT THEY BETRAYED AND ULTIMATELY BE FORCED TO LEAVE ISRAEL. THEY SAY THAT SINAT CHINAT AND BETRAYOR LIKE THESE CAUSED THE DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE. While I disagree with our Arab enemies at least I understand the conflict in nationalism and ideology. THE NETURA KARTEI ARE SIMPLY TRAITORS WHO WOULD HAVE SOLD OUT THEIR BROTHERS TO NAZI LAST CENTURY, TODAY ARE SELLING ALL JEWS AND ALL OF THOSE WHO PERISHED TO THOSE WHO ADVOCATE OUR TOTAL DESTRUCTION. MAY THEY ALL ROT IN HELL FOREVER
33. May this be a reminder to all....
Hiram ,   Zelazowa Wola   (12.14.06)
of what can happen when religious extremism takes over common sense and global history. In democratic countries like there are in Europe, propagating negationist propaganda is punished by law. It is interesting to find out that in Israel, again due to the non-separation between the State and the religion, individuals like these are allowed to remain "free" in the name of Jewish fundamentalism. Neturei Karta representatives are nothing else but simply "that"...I have said it many times on these posts, the Moslems have their own fundamentalists, a dangerous fringe of the populace, and their dictatorial methodology, why we, the cousins of these people, would not have ours ? I agree that the price to pay is extremely heavy. This will probably contribute to creating systemic suspicion towards "haredim" who have already distinguished themselves in the past for attempting to bring up obscurantism and dictature of the mind. And again, with 13 members of my direct family having been deported from Krakow ghetto and killed in Belzec, please do not lecture me on "anti-Jewish feelings" and tolerance. Negating the horor of the entire 1933 to 1945 period calls for strong answers, not tolerance. Israel need to progress in making sure that its citizen " or so called citizen" do not embarass the country by their behaviour " in the name of God "
34. Cult
zznhl ,   Golan, Israel   (12.14.06)
The Catholics have an institution called "Excommunication" this would be relevant to these nutcases. Alternitavly just ignore them as you would a non-Jewish comedian who dresses up like a jew to insult us.
35. BUT
anne ,   herzliya   (12.14.06)
all the jewish jew haters of these columns , just love lumping these creeps all together in one basket with all chareidim. They'll be SO disappointed if you take their voodoo mantras away...they'll just have to find a different group of mitzvah-keeping jews to vomit their hatred on...but don't worry, if it's jewish and religious that'll keep their antisemitic claws a -shenkin, I mean a -shakin'
36. who is doing more damage i ask you?
Aaron ,   Ra'anana   (12.14.06)
Neurei Karta? or Meretz/Labor? who is working harder to delegitimize Israel's right to exist? who is working harder to delegitimize Israel's right to her holy places in Jerusalem, Hebron, Bethlehem (Rachel's Tomb) and Shehem? think about it
37. #10 Where protests ends
Andreia ,   Brooklyn USA   (12.14.06)
It will never end...no man can end arguments and disagreements found on this earth by sinful men and women. Salvation is in His Gloriful name alone, Lord & Saviour Jesus Christ. Let's pray for peace and for people. The Sanhedrin Temple is currently in renewal state. It will be quite interesting in the coming years to see it all happen right before our eyes (according to the book of Daniel, Isaiah, Revelations, Psalms).
38. #4 - remembering what they did over gay pride
Dorothy Friend ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (12.14.06)
Good idea. They can live in a country where the leaders hate gays as much as they do.
39. most of you guys here...
cal ,   Brooklyn   (12.14.06)
most of you guys here are saying stuff like "get these guys out of Israel", but in reality I believe that most of them are actually from the US and some in the UK. My only question is, how are the ones in Israel tolerated by their neighbors?
40. Olmerts inactions make him just as bad.
Jay ,   Israel   (12.14.06)
Its obvious why Olmert wont act against the arab MKs and this Kapo lunatic fringe group called Neturei Karta, with which what they did would be considered treason in any other country. He is as bad as them and wants to appease the enemy of Israel too. Everyone in Israel needs to open their eyes and protest agaisnt this government full of inept fools that are allowing anti semites to live here. Get a real man with balls in power and kick this scum Neturei Karta out of israel as well as the arab MKs and any other traitors.
41. Jews & Neturei Karta men & women
Yiannis Kareklas ,   Athens - Greece   (12.14.06)
First by attending this conference in Teheran , Neturei Karta is insulting the Memory of 6.000.000 jews who perished in the hands of the abject Nazis and Neturei Karta is also insulting the living jews who suffered the Nazis' atrocities. Here is what the jews have to do to Neturei Karta members : shave their head , tatoo a swastika on it and send them all to Iran naked , after all they don't need the State of Israel as they still long for the Messiah. In the meantime , Israel has to stop granting them any help let it be economic , health or other as long as they do not recognize Israel.
42. Isn't if obvious they are on the Arabs' payroll?
Sarit   (12.14.06)
43. So we have a country so what!!
Next year in ,   Jerusalem???   (12.14.06)
I am a child of survivor...i am not interested in everyones denial as they cant deny the facts and i am living proof of that. Still here we have our own country that is supposed to protect us, so i shlep my family half way across the world to be attacked by rockets and feel more insecure than i ever did living as a Jew overseas. We have arab M.K going overseas and badmouthing us, Heniya went to talk to the Iran P.M. just last week who knows what despicable plans they devised.. Whether or not we claim full rights on Israel is up for debate, but to protect and ensure the security of those citizens that live within is of upmost importance. They shudnt allow them back into Israel, freeloaders they probably live off our taxes... Maybe Ahmeijad is right, we dont need anyone to destroy us we can do it by/to ourselves from within.. Bshana Habaa b....??????
44. The year of 2057
Atilla Karagözoğlu ,   Istanbul   (12.14.06)
The politicians will be other side of this world. Iran, I believe will be Rebublic like my Country. Iran's People will talk about todays Iran president that where he made mistake ? Now, people blame on the Neturei Karta members much than the man. But, that day, His people will blame on him for the Holocaust denial conference and THE PHOTOS WITH unwanted a few Jew (Look like Jew) Israel and Palestine will agree on the basement of Saudi's Plan. 1967 borders, two state solution. I mean MIDDLE EAST WILL BE LIVING HER HAPPY SUMMER IN 2057. There will be football games between Israel and Iran. (Israel will beat them :)))) Than Israel will have football games with us, we will beat them :))) anyway, JUST 50 MORE YEARS, WORLD WILL HAVE GREAT DAYS. how about me in that time ? :((( I dont think I can make it. 42+50 =92 ! 2 packs of cigarette each day 10 coup OF coffee each day 7-8 beers for week my wife wıdı wıdı (talking...talking ) on me. I DIE :) ANYWAY, IN THE SUMMER OF 2057, OUR HOME (WORLD) WILL HAVE THE BEST SUNNY DAYS. note that :) Love and Respect and Peace and good morning Middle East :) Atilla Karagözoğlu
45. to Anne from Herzlia
Vitaliy ,   NJ, USA   (12.14.06)
No, Anne, you are not right. Most of us, even those who are gay and disagree with Orthodox, do not hate the Orthodox/Haredi Jews. We strongly dislike their dogmas, but we do not hate them. NK, on the other hand, have gone beyond what 99% of the Jews in the whole world would find acceptable. I bet the same non-Orthodox Jews would be just as appalled and disgusted, if non-Haredi Jews went to this conference. I know I certainly would.
46. so the promised land is Germany?
Suzanne   (12.14.06)
where is that written? :P
47. Further
Vitaliy ,   NJ, USA   (12.14.06)
The NK are certainly denigrating the memory of their own Satmar parent communities. Satmar themselves barely survived WWII and its concentration camps. It is their right to be against Israel (a very foolish choice, I think). However, I think they should only be allowed passive disagreeing with Israel's existence, certainly not active like their participation in the conference. Simply disgusting. Not even remembering their community's past. Satmar community needs to address this. Certainly to be pushed by the non-NK Haredis. I do think that this is an area of complete agreement between ALL the major movements.
48. If you know that an Arab is being withhold
Suzanne   (12.14.06)
from a conference like this, because he would like to shed some different view on the holocaust and the state of Israel, how can you allow yourself - as a Jew - to go to that conference where you share your views with holocaust deniers and those who want to wipe Israel off the map? (the country where that neturei karta guy from Jeruzalem is living in, yes) This conference was not about freedom of speech? If so, the Arab Israeli should have been allowed to attend this meeting. This conference was merely a political move and therefore a disgrace. That these neturei karta fellows are considered to be "good jews" by the Israel-haters, says enough, I believe. Neturei Karta, you endanger your brothers and sisters and that is why your brothers and sisters reject you. For their lifes, for their sake and eventually also for your own lifes. That you share the opinion that Israel should not have been created? Fine. You do that. But don't hang around with people who want to use these views for their own political benefits in order to create hatred (against Jews and in particular Israelis) and polarisation in the world. We are living in dangerous times and you only make it worse.
49. They are Worse than Traitors; only 3,000 of them
semsem ,   New York, USA   (12.14.06)
There are about 3,000 members in this sect. They are "worse than traitors." If they want to be anti Zionist they are free to do so. But to attend a Holocaust Denial conference and to cause so much harm to Israel and to their Jewish brothers makes them worse than traitors. They should be banned from Israel and from all Jewish places.
50. Neturei Karta
vered ,   Israel   (12.14.06)
Israel must forbide Neturei Karta people who live out of Israel to enter. Israel must expell Neturei Karta people who live inside its borders. We must act the same way with jewish traitors and arabs traitors who want to destroy this state and live in it.
51. RABBI METZGER IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ! WE HAVE TO BAN THEM
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52. Spiritual terrorists, once outside of Israel, lock the door
Levi Krol ,   Bet Shemesh, Israel   (12.14.06)
53. Rav Metzger
charles ,   petach tikva   (12.14.06)
It's about time you do something against those anti Israelis . Why not a cherem on all of them ? this will show the Jewish people , religious and secular alike that they are not part of us .
54. #45 Vitaly
anne ,   herzlia   (12.14.06)
Your write from New Jersey. But the mails from here areblatant hate mail directed against hareidim in some form or other, every single day. We here, know, when we see their signatures, that hatred is going to spew forth.
55. Naturei Karta
NYC Girl   (12.14.06)
Words utterly fail me every time I see these disgusting freaks, and now all the Holocaust deniers and Jew-haters are getting plenty of traction out of being able to point to the fact that there were Jews who attended the conference, and so the claim is being made (by the likes of David Duke and some equally insufferable shithead from the Institute for Historical Review) that the conference wasn't anti-Semitic because there were Jews taking part in it. Unfortunately, as is usually the case with the media, there isn't any context being presented to explain exactly what these fanatics really stand for. But perhaps the only positive thing that can be said about them is that because they look so hideously ridiculous, they're not going to be mistaken for "normal" Jews by most people, but that's probably a small consolation when they're providing so much propaganda value to our worst enemies. So, maybe it's time for a fatwa on the Naturei Karta. Or else just round them all up and ship them back to Brooklyn.
56. My grandfather a Hassidic Jew lost 47 members of his family
Danny ,   USA   (12.14.06)
in the Holocaust. He must be tossing in his grave knowing that some Hassids would go to Iran to be with the Iranian enemies. Shame!
57. neturei karta is garbage!
Roger ,   USA   (12.14.06)
Who needs the Arab traitors when we have such Jews?
58. I'm confused!
Talula ,   Israel   (12.14.06)
During the last Yom Hashoar, I didn't see any 'black coats' standing still. Infact they went about their business while the sirens wailed for 2 minutes and the rest of the country (excluding Arabs) stood still with their heads down. Can someone explain?
59. #58 A siren sounding, and an 'anniversary gathering'
Anne   (12.14.06)
is not a particularly Jewish concept. In recent years though, more hareidim, have joined us, and shown respect. Others add extra prayers and say extra t'hillim on this day. But this does not make them Neturei Karta. Just convenient to lump all smelly clown suited freebie seeking blackhatted guys in the same hate group. Rather like Hitler did, with all us Jews.
60. Neturei Karta
BJ ,   Basel, Switzerland   (12.14.06)
Those disgusting enemies of Jewish People ! Cannot be they excomunicated ?
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