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Pay attention to Tzipi
Yael Gvirtz
Published: 02.01.07, 00:10
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31. Just watch them squealing like stuck pigs!!
David ,   San Francisco   (01.02.07)
32. Ben Plonie
David ,   San Francisco   (01.02.07)
Well at least she's not dead like your leader Kahane. Are you still posing as a teenager online to trick Jewish kids into becoming Kahanists Ben?
33. livne
sad ,   israel   (01.03.07)
if we are waiting for her than we are really in poor shape. GO HOME. STAY HOME.
34. livni etc
FRIEND   (01.03.07)
It appears that despite the disastrous leadership in Israel ( except Lieberman) the Israeli people are resilient and will overcome the current malaise. However they have to vote into power people with vision . It is not possible to have leaders who will satisfy the demands of the Arabs ( disolve Israel), the demands of the Europeans ( give up all land and go back to the 67 or even worse to the 49 borders. The US roadmap would only work if they are accepted as final by the Arabs without further demands and peace agreements . This is not going to happen ! Therefore Israel has to do what is best for Israel first ! Everything else is then secondary . Try and secure your people and your borders , before anything else . You will never satisfy everybody else , however then you can deal from a position of strength and then ask the Arabs to find common ground. Currently it shows that your leaders are running scared and what it is even worse , you are sacrificing your people needlessly .
35. #26, Liberals are too nice?
Jenny ,   NYC   (01.03.07)
LOLOLOL, you guys won't even let anyone speak their mind!!! Look how you are slandering people and trying to censure talkbackers' comments. If they think the current leadership are "traitors" then they are entitled to their views. As if you or other liberals haven't bashed Bush for the past 6 years. Stop acting like a fascist. And NYC has had Republican mayors for well over a decade, we are not even close to liberal. Schumer and Clinton (who are pretty terrible, mind you) are not anywhere as liberal as the senators from Cali. Most of the people from NY are Democrats, not liberals. The words are not interchangeable.
36. to # 13 judith
HP   (01.03.07)
You are entitled to your say ! However due to people who put Kadima in power , Israel is now paying the price . It is regarded as weak and ineffectual , sacrificing soldiers and citizens without adequate reasons. Livni is a utter disaster , good for left wingers . If she would a Golda Meir , then yes , I vote for her as PM . nb : Haaretz is a left wing rag , which together with Peace Now , Women in black or green , Kadima and Neturei Karta is only doing harm to the people of Israel
37. livne
joe ,   israel   (01.03.07)
how many days do u run this article???????? let's see her and her party go home.
38. #35 the distortions and hypocrisy don't stop
David ,   San Francisco   (01.03.07)
How have I stopped anybody speaking their mind? I don't call people who have devoted their lives to Israel "traitors" the way you people do. Sure they are entitled to their views. I've never said otherwise. And I'm entitled to mine, without being murdered or accused of being a fascist for daring to have an opinion you don't like (perhaps you never realized that fascism is right-wing? Duh). And if you're going to try to accuse others of censorship, you should at least learn to spell the word. How many liberal murderers have there been in Israel of their opponents? NONE. How many murders of Israeli Jews by the extreme Right have there been? A whole bunch. Including a prime minister. "Bashed Bush for the past 6 years"?? Don't make me laugh. The Republican Right has controlled the Presidency and the Congress for the last 6 years. They've had all the power, and they've used it. And the result? The country is a mess and civil liberties are a mess. Yet I'm a "fascist" for "bashing Bush." You're an idiot. You people never cease claiming you're being "bashed" even when you hold all the reins of power. Typical lies. Just like these talkbacks are full of extreme Rightists calling other Jews "traitors" and self-haters, yet if I have the "nerve" to answer back, I'm a fascist? More distortions. As for New York, your "Republican" mayors are no less liberal than California's "Republican" governor. And none of them want to have anything to do with that moron Bush. The worst President ever - for the US and for Israel.
39. #38, Couldn't resist bashing Bush-typical liberal
Jenny ,   NYC   (01.03.07)
You TRIED to bash talkbackers for expressing their true opinions. Let me get this straight, you can bash Bush till the cows come home but G-d forbid someone bashes Livini and you get a coronary??? You, my friend, are the biggest hypocrite around. "How many liberal murderers have there been in Israel of their opponents?" LOLOLOL. Have you ever heard of the Altalena? Rabin personally killed many Holocaust survivors who were political opponents. Go learn Israeli history and then talk to me. We don't paint the left all with the same brush b/c of Rabin, don't paint rightists with the same brush b/c of a few nuts. Trust me you have your share of nuts and the bulk live in San Fran and everyone knows it. And don't give me that crap about the Republican Right controlling things. You liberals control all the media and academia. You've been showing the Jihad angle on TV and in the classrooms since the war started. Talk about traitors... When you lose again in '08 we can meet back here again to see who was right.
40. #38 David of SF, UTOPIAN PLATFORMS INAPPLICABLE
DAVID P ,   SANTA CRUZ, USA   (01.03.07)
YOUR TALKBACKS ARE HEART FELT AND YOU BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT IS IT ALL REALISTIC? ASK YOURSELF, WOULD A LIBERAL LEFT WINGER BE IDEAL FOR ISRAEL AT THIS TIME? WHAT ARE THE POLICIES OF A LIBERAL? MORE DIPLOMACY, CONCESSIONS FOR AN ENEMY HELL BENT ON OUR DESTRUCTION. I SAW SHARON WALK ON TEMPLE MOUNT, SAW THE RIOTS WITH MY OWN EYES AND WATCHED BARAK FALL FROM HIS LEADERSHIP POSITION BECAUSE HIS PLATFORM REMAINED UNCHANGED AFTER THE START OF THE 2ND INTIFADA. HOW CAN YOU MAKE PEACE WITH AN ENEMY THAT DOESN'T WANT TO COEXIST, OR READS YOUR PEACEFUL GESTURES AS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS? I TOO CANNOT RESIDE IN WAR OR CONFLICT, BUT IN ISRAEL YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. I KNOW YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE COMPARISONS BETWEEN OUR RIGHT WINGERS IN THE USA AND THOSE IN ISRAEL, BUT I ASSURE YOU THEY ARE NOT ONE IN THE SAME.
41. Jenny - you ARE one of the nuts
Daniel ,   San Francisco   (01.03.07)
If you believe the things you wrote, then you really are one of the nuts: 1. Rabin "personally killed many Holocaust survivors"? 2. The Altalena? So David Ben Gurion and that piece of dirt Yigal Amir are the same in your book? 3. Liberals control "all the media and academia" and are traitors? Perhaps you've never heard of Fox News? Or Rupert Murdoch? Or Rush Limbaugh? After trying to sound half sane in your original post, you have now revealed yourself as a total nut job. It didn't take long.
42. David #40
David ,   San Francisco   (01.03.07)
I appreciate your comments and the sensible tone of your email. I haven't said anything about what platforms I advocate, nor am I a supporter of Livni. Nor do I oppose anyone criticizing her. However, I'm sure Livni is not a traitor, is probably not an "insane feminist," doesn't control the media etc etc. and I'm sick of hearing all these extreme right-wing nuts say these things.
43. Good start - Moderation
BP DIP   (01.03.07)
This is exactly the way to calm down the anxiety of the ordinary Palestinian people. This will reshape the image of the State of Israel as a civilized good neighbor.
44. It won't stop them firing rockets or wanting to kil us #43
Daniel ,   Formerly Israel   (01.04.07)
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