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Holy sites can wait
Amos Oz
Published: 13.02.07, 17:28
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31. Can't Bring Himself
Yisrael medad ,   Shiloh, Israel   (02.14.07)
Oz, even when tokenly mentioning Muslim Waqf criminal activity (when they destroyed Jewish historical artifacts in building two underground mosques and dumping the remains), he can't bring himself to set that aside as something separate. No, he must link it with supposed Jewish activity as if they are parallel and equal (which they aren't).
32. Holy sites can wait NO
trumeldor ,   eurabia   (02.14.07)
Your lack of faith is the reason why so many jews are spineless like olmert and peretz SHAME ON YOU
33. #28, I said 'Most' Israelis do not read Amos Oz
Beth Landau ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (02.14.07)
Self hating Israeli writers like Oz have built their careers by trashing their own people. As a result, they gain favor with European audiences. After all, what European could resist reading books by an Israeli who systematically attacks Israel and fellow Israelis. Which explains of course why his books sell like hotcakes in Germany, yet fail to sell well here in Israel.
34. to my anonymous friend in glascow #29
Fares ,   cleveland   (02.14.07)
you sound like a real state agent , God gave no land to no one ..religions emphasized on the ideas and the promotion for one god .. the emphases was never on a land or group of people ..zionist tried to promote that idea ,,it is an old trick .. in OUR Quran ..this land was promised to the believers ...the god followers ..this the land of Ibraham and his sons and their followers .. in 1948 a bunch of thugs ,criminal exploited the whole thing as theirs .. we know exactly how this group of thugs will end ..it is in our holy book from A-Z ..the reason they were mentioned was because their arrival is another sign of the coming back of the Messiah (Jesus PBUH ) and therefor the judgement day .. so god was telling all of us ...be on the look up ..when this happen ,it is really close .. get an english version of the quran and read about the vicory of the believers .. god is just ....and what those thugs doing is unjustice ... they can't be God 's people . their end is very messy .
35. Oz' article and talk backs
sam ,   ny   (02.14.07)
from all the hateful talk I am beginning to believe that there is no god!
36. Love and do what you want ...
Marcel Abel ,   France   (02.15.07)
Aime et fais ce que tu veux. Si tu te tais, tais-toi par amour, Si tu corriges, corrige par amour, Si tu pardonnes, pardonne par amour. Aie au fond du coeur la racine de l'amour : De cette racine, rien ne peut sortir de mauvais. Saint Augustin (Love and do what you want. If you keep silent, keep silent by love, If you speak, speak by love, If you correct, correct by love, If you forgive, forgive by love. Have deep in your heart the root of love : Of this root, nothing bad can come out.) Wars can wait, Love cannot. "Quand on a que l'amour pour unique bagage ..." (Jacques Brel) Please my Lord, wait a little more.
37. marcel abel
mahrimah ,   jerusalem   (02.15.07)
love is good ,hate is bad /// may be you love something and it is not good for you ... and you may be hate something and it is good to you .. so give the mind and the advice of other a role in your love and hate
38. Holy Sites Can Wait
Frances Dash ,   Zichron Ya'acov, Isr   (02.15.07)
I don't agree with the position Amos Oz has taken and I don't think Lupoliansky's decision was the right one. It's not a question of 'live and let live' but rather it is a question of the desire of the Arabs in this country to remove us from all of it. They are prepared to use anything as an excuse to launch further terror attacks and in this they have the support of all the Arab rabble that take to the streets at the least provocation. If we were to adhere to Amos Oz's way of thinking, we would have to forego all repairs, all excavations, in fact, all changes we need to make. And why should we? Jerusalem is, after all, our city. We are prepared to share it with the arabs but not to relinquish control of it. Left to their devices, they would make certain that all artifacts that show our ancient presence in the city would be destroyed -- just as they did when they built a mosque underground. And with whose permission was that done? It is up to us to be strong enough to say no to their demands when necessary. Oz further commented on so-called occupation and the problem of the refugees. We are not occupiers. At best, Judea and Samaria are disputed lands. For us to choose to live there is our right, just as the arabs have the right to live in other parts of Israel. As for the refugees, we did not place them in refugee camps and it is not our responsibility to get them out. In no other area of the world have refugees been placed in camps and left to rot there. Only the arabs were prepared to do that and that only for the purpose of keeping alive the furor against Israel.
39. Mahrimah , Jerusalem
Marcel Abel ,   France   (02.15.07)
I have no hate, I can't hate. Hate always hurts and kills. Love never. " And when God had me wander from my father's household, I said to her, "This is how you can show your love to me: Everywhere we go, say of me, 'He is my brother.' " (Genesis 20,13) May the Lord bless you and all.
40. #35 Sam: Let the Muslims take over the Vatican
Yacov ,   Ashkelon   (02.15.07)
Then let's see how much lovey-dovey "turn the other cheek" and "love your brother" talk you get from Xtians.
41. To yacov and others
charles ,   petach tikva   (02.15.07)
Look at Rabbi Amar's declaration regarding the temple mount . He is not a leftist self hating Jew i suppose . Nor are others as Amos Oz .
42. Re 37
Roy Galut ,   Selah Washington USA   (02.16.07)
This is what Jesus said about love in Luke 6 v 27 thru v 38 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also. Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again. And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise. For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them. And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same. And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again. But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil. Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.
43. to marcel abel
mahrimah ,   jerusalem   (02.16.07)
good marcel that you have no hate // but sure here in palastin we hate the israili but sure we can live with them .. but i think the israili do hate us , but they cant live with the palastinians .. and the power as a power will act here not the love or hate
44. RE:43. to marcel abel
Roy Galut ,   Selah Washington USA   (02.17.07)
Then mahrimah each israeli AND each palistinian needs to take a very hard look at those who are giving them information and forming policy based on that information.... a crafty leader can stroke bias with half truths and cause irrepairable damage ... yes in the case of the Israelis there could have been a little more consoltation with islamic authorities .but the islamic athorities are predisposed to refuse any co-operation even though they know the mount has a strong religious meaning to he Jews and are doing everything they can to erase all evidense of the jewish temple on the mount as evidensed by the striping of jewish temple artifacts from the soloman stables area of the mount. http://www.har-habayt.org/ You are in jerusalem and easily can check the validity of it....don't depend on second hand information from someone hat may have a bias
45. Thank god for jewish religious fanatics
Rami ,   NYC   (02.17.07)
Jewish seculars built israel with their smarts, sacrifice and pragmatism while jewish orthdox extremists will distroy it. History repeats itself.
46. he's right
biran ,   london   (02.17.07)
when most israeli fanatics are spewing hatred rejection to the writer, it tells u he's right...
47. Many Jewish naysayers on this and other boards.....
Roy Galut ,   Selah washington USA   (02.18.07)
....sound much like the naysayers after G-d performed mighty miricles in Egypt and the major miricle of the Dead sea crossing..... at the first sign of hardship they cried to moses why did you bring us to this desert to die when we could have had food to eat in Egypt.... Like when moses sent the first spies into cainan ten came back and said we are but grasshoppers and ther are giant in the land and they will squash us...but two of the spies Joshua and calid said We can defeat these giants... then they spent the next 40 years in the wilderness to get it straight the same mentality exist today ....
48. 47 correction
Roy Galut ,   Selah Washington   (02.18.07)
Red sea crossing ."...sound much like the naysayers after G-d performed mighty miricles in Egypt and the major miricle of the Dead sea crossing..... "
49. Live and let live
armand Gold ,   Baltimore, MD, USA   (06.20.07)
Baloney, Mr. Oz. If only the goyim (Moslems and Christians) would heed those wonderful words, this world would indeed be a Gan Eden. Rather, history has shown that they have chosen not to let us live in peace, and, in the process, they have killed us by the many tens of millions. Conclusion: To hell with trying to placate them and respect their sensibilities. It is about time they begin to recognize ours. Who knows: They may even learn to like us.
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