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Ignored by the Brits
Amir Hanifes
Published: 06.06.07, 08:51
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31. Another point of view
Ian Allsuch ,   North London   (06.06.07)
Please see this article, just to illustrate that not all the British press are biased and anti-Israel : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/columnists/columnists.html?in_article_id=459662&in_page_id=1772&in_author_id=256
32. #24
Ram ,   London   (06.06.07)
Poor Khalid. All your eyes and mind can focus on is every imaginable negative aspect to justify your deep hatred of Jews. If you and your dear brethren could only make an attempt to focus on improving your lot instead of letting this hate ferment and pass on from generation to generation, don't you think that every negative aspect you speak of can be argued for and have it improved? Let's face it, you force yourselves to live in denial of historical facts and concentrate on contrived propaganda in your agenda to eliminate the state of Israel; even at the cost of your lives. This only happens to be a small part of the big plan of your people to Islamify the world. Why? Maybe so that you knock back the entire planet to the 7th century because you are not able to keep up with the pace of the modern world? Face it Khalid, every corner of the world is engulfed with violence in the name of Islam, the supposed religion of peace. Your people have to learn the concept of "live and let live" if a major catastrophe is to be averted. And don't fool yourself into believing that Islam will ultimately triumph!
33. Thanks Amir and Eff the Brits.
(06.06.07)
34. #24 Khalid speaks some truth
Bruce ,   New Jersey, USA   (06.06.07)
Khalid: Tell us more about lying. It is the one thing all can agree that the arab muslim world has excelled at, even and especially unto itself. I hope one day you and your kind wake up, start to value truth, search for it and give it more importance in your cultural fabric than the current paramount principles of hatred and "blaming everyone else first". Besides truth, there are two main things that Palestinians can't bring themselves to recognize: Israel and opportunities. Time to grow up.
35. #32 - You and your zionist propaganda
Khalid ,   The Netherlands   (06.06.07)
Listen to me you narrow-minded zionist, oppsing zionism does not mean hatred of Jews . Judaism is a faith, while Zionism is a political ideology, which has hijacked the faith for political objectives. Oppsing communusm does not mean you hate Russians, got it, or should I keep teaching that to zionists on this talkback. So stop trying it through this door, because it simply won't work. As for the daily violence in our world, just turn on your TV and check for yourself who the victims are (people in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Palestine) and who the perpetrators are (America and Israel). Or just read the Ynetnews of this morning (Your heros in IDF have killed a 70-year old man), or of last week (again our venerated heroes have killed two children on the border of Gaza)Nevertheless we keep hearing about muslim violence. So the action is for the Israelis and the Americans and the credit goes to the Muslims. Is not that great? Long live democracy Israeli style, and long live democracy American style
36. #29 - Your talkback seems to cofirm my point
Khalid ,   The Neteherlands   (06.06.07)
Unfortunately for you, uou unwittingly confirmed the issues I raised in my talkback except for the first one (the number of refugees) It is not difficult for you to verify that too, just go to the united nations Refugee Agency statistics, then you can easily find out that the figures are around 650,000 in 1948, and around 325,000 in 1967. You can also check the demographic statistics of Palestine in that period, then you will easily find out that it would have been impossible for the zionists to achieve a majority in favor of a certain population group had these expulsions never taken place, meaning that the zionists (to achieve their aim and push through their agenda) those expulsions would have had to happen, irrespective of the wars you mentioned as the cause of the expulsion. Read the writings of Menahem Begin and the Hagana leaders, and you will understand what I mean.
37. Khalid
israeli ,   israel   (06.06.07)
can you offer any example of Arab democracy? Except the one at work in Darfur? And if you hate Zionism, why are Jewish targets, synagogues, cemeteries, kindergartens, being attacked in Europe? And why do Islamic preachers label all Jews monkeys and pigs? Why do Muslims attack christians and buddhists?
38. don't confuse them with the facts - their minds are made up
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (06.06.07)
how academic, how logical, how tolerant, how high-minded, how intelligent, and how brave UK academia is. they're so smart they're.........stupid! remind me to never take them seriously on anything ever again.
39. # 34 - The American Zionist
Khalid ,   The Netherlands   (06.06.07)
Look who is talking. So if you are are such a superior class human being why don't you answer my questions or refute them with counter argument if you can? When will you Christian Zionists will stop considering yourself above everybody else? Wake up from your superiority complex
40. Khalid
Eldar ,   US   (06.06.07)
Khalid, you are hotheaded and pompous. Who are you to define what Judaism is? It is not only a faith, but rests on three components - religion, peoplehood and land. Until you and your like understand that, you will never understand why we Jews endure and why we will never relinguish our dream of a Jewish homeland in Israel. None of this, by the way, denies who you are, your claims to the land, or any wrongs that have been perpetrated against you. The only way we will survive is through mutual recognition and understanding. Now, perhaps you can take a rest and stop with spewing your hatred and faux-expertise in the Jewish people.
41. #35, Khalid
Ram ,   London   (06.06.07)
Dear Khalid, Anything I say to you will be misconstrued by you. Nevertheless I will still go ahead and give you a piece of advice. You may think that your postings here are putting you in positive light or helping your cause. Trust me, they are doing the opposite. The more you say the more damage you are causing. so, lie low for a while and save yourself some dignity. Salaam
42. boycott
alun ,   london   (06.06.07)
well done for trying but there is no point in engaging with fascists whose views are based on emotion[hatred] and not facts
43. Remarkable argument, but they made their mind already ..
Ralph ,   USA   (06.06.07)
44. Khalid! I see Xtian Zionists stick in your+Arabs throats .
Alan ,   SA   (06.06.07)
45. Do UK ex-Polytechnic gang (they are so called Universities)
Alan ,   SA   (06.06.07)
know that most internet cafes in Gaza have been burnt down stopping exchange of knowledge . Only kidnapping,throat cutting ,old people groveling and BBC correspondents are allowed on Computer Screens ..Also Allah's self appointed representatives and political party chiefs on Earth are allowed.
46. WE ARE NOT ALL TARRED WITH THE SAME ACADEMIC BRUSH
MairiT ,   Glasgow Scotland   (06.06.07)
To those that use their blanket terminology............I would like to make it clear that this group of so-called academics do not represent all of the UK Population. I am angry, ashamed and disgusted.
47. # 35's frenzy
theo van gogh ,   dordrecht cemetery   (06.06.07)
islam is THE religion of peace and harmony...save the netherlands!!!
48. Khalid: why Judaism is acceptable and not Zionism?
naive ,   land of opportunity   (06.06.07)
as you said judaism is acceptable and zionism, because the first one is a religion. right? wrong. the zionism is the same as judaism, but simply does not want to submit. look at what you have done to all the other religions, zoroasterianism, hinduism, byzantine christianism,... you like form of judaim that is compatible with dhimmitude, not form of judaism that stand up that fight back, that is why you have problem with zionism, no other reason, and let me ad the era of soward is gone and now it is the time of internet. please stop playing domb, thak you
49. rogue state
rj ,   england   (06.07.07)
i wonder how long before america and israel realise that britain is a rogue state that creeps up from behind on its enemies...living in britain i hear daily the bad feeling the british have against america and israel...how long before we see a moslem prime minister that may well decide to really make america and israel war enemies and not just academic..
50. Bindness and deafness of UCU militant anti Israel members
Joy Wolfe ,   Manchester UK   (06.07.07)
There are none so blind as those who will not see. It is clear that no reasoned argument will cut through the bigotry and mindless anti Israel agenda of the militant minority. This experience of a Druze PHD student is clear evidence that the anti Israel boycotters are not interested in the truth or reality It is now up to the silent majority in the Union to make their voices heard and not allow themselves to be manipulated by those who would denynthe legitimacy of the one tiny Jewish state in the world. While these people ignore the problems that exist around the world and fail to condemn the lack of human rights and mindless killing and massacres , one is left to draw only one conclusion as to what motivates the anti Israel Trade Unionists. It also begs the question as to why so much energy is put into damning the Jewish state when the time would be better spent on discussing real Union issues in the UK
51. Thank You Amir
Yehuda ,   USA   (06.07.07)
52. #49 A Muslim Prime Minister? You are completely nuts.
Daniel ,   London   (06.07.07)
It's pretty clear you don't live in Britain. If you did, you wouldn't write such absolute rubbish. A "moslem prime minister"?? You are nuts.
53. Zionist propaganda?
John ,   Berlin, Germany   (06.07.07)
Perhaps the words of one courageous israeli woman sums it up best when it comes to Arabs and Jews. "The Arabs will never stop trying to kill us until they love their children more than they hate Jews" GM
54. UK BOYCOT
HENRYK ,   RAMAT GAN/ISRAEL   (06.07.07)
THE BRITS SEE WHAT THE AMERICANS DO IN IRAK AND AFGANISTAN BUT THEY WOULD NOT DERE TO BOYCOT US ACADEMIA AS THEY ARE TO CHICKEN THAT THE USA ACADEMIA SHALL REFUSE THE BRITTS ENTRY INTO HARVARD,YALE,STANFORD ETC
55. #49, rj
israeli ,   israel   (06.07.07)
I'd like to thank you and all the other talkbackers from UK expressing solidarity with Israel. But I guess it is up to you to fight for your country and to take it back from those who are trying to marginalize you on your own turf. Good luck!
56. # 40 - The Zionist Ideologue
Khalid ,   The Netherlands   (06.07.07)
and who are you to define Judaism the Zionist way ? can you show me where in in the book of Moses that definition stands? Can you show me in the book of Moses or in the books of ancient Jewish clerics, where there is justification for all the misery brought upon the Palestinians by zionists like you?
57. #41 - The enlightened zionist
Khalid ,   The Netherlands   (06.07.07)
Can an enlightened zionist like you explain to me what is the nature of damage I am doing to the Palestinian cause? What are you going to do moore than you already done to them? Not give them a state? HA Ha, mind you that in the long run, a separate Palestinian state will be a zionist demand, given the demographics realities of the area
58. zionism
rj ,   england   (06.07.07)
no matter what is said what cannot be disputed is that ZIonism has achieved and done more good to this world than islam has ever achieve...unless you count suicide bombing around the world and degradation of women etc...
59. #36, lets be kind and pretend that you can't read english
Danny   (06.07.07)
I "confirmed" your point? What was that? That Haifa isn't completely filled with millionaires? That after 60 years of non-stop wars there are people who aren't that keen on arabs? Guess what there are people here who don't like Russians or Ethiopians and Israelis are a hundred billion times more tolerant than Palestinians - which admittedly is not setting a terribly high bar. I have read Begin - a very much minority leader, with a following equivalent to Islamic Jihad in the West Bank - and so what? He was running policy? Maybe you forget but he was forcibly disarmed by the Hagana. Maybe you should read the parts of Weitz - who was keen on expelling - NOT quoted by anti-Israelis, such as where he complains that no one wants to kick arabs out and there is no plan to take over the vacated land. As for UN figures, don't make me laugh. A notoriously corrupt organisation handing out money and food to anyone claiming to be a "refugee". Fact in the land allocated to jews under the partition plan Jews were an absolute majority - hence why they were allocated to Jews and within ten years another 2 million jews would arrive. Would Jews be the overwhelming majority they are now? Maybe not. Would they have been a majority, absolutely.
60. to Khalid
gm ,   south africa   (06.07.07)
"in the book of Moses" it clearly states what land is given to the Jews. And you are 100% right, it gives no indication as to how the 'palestinians' are to be treated, because THERE WERE NO PALESTINIANS. The reason why Ram told you to be quiet and stay low, is because everything you say is based on fabricated stories and lies and Ram is aware of this.
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