You are very wrong, the gays are marching just to incite us and offend us..

What , those Israel haters will impose their retrograde views on the whole of GOOD israelis ? Those anti zionists thraw their hate towards the Israeli citizens ? What did they contribute to this country ? Nothing , less than nothing . Let them go to their friend in Iran , some have already shown the way , but please , stay away from MY , not your country .

and what is needed, by acting like that. I think they should find better and more diplomatic ways to reach their right goals in this matter. Maybe finding ways to get more integrated with the society,even being this society not that good by now. Maybe they should work with the material they have at the moment(ze ma she iesh)and try to ,by more lovingly-and energetic too- means,change it.

Seculars at least can read , # 57 was not mine , even if i agree . Poor anonymous , with his incapacity to read . Before criticising serious tb's , go to kindergarten , and learn something .

Ms. Satat, like any of us, has freedom of expression. Such unrestrained freedom shows her/their values; not so-called lifestyle values, rather the dim-wittedness that comes when one does not understand that freedom doesn't necessarily require courage. In this case it requires blind arrogance to even the deep sentitivity that's a cornerstone of gay life. Ms. Safat, you cannot ever tailor this freedom for yourself. Free expression is for absolutely everyone. Furthermore, Ms. Safat, Please know it is most certainly an inalienable *democratic* privilege - even obligation - to object to the deviant trashing of The only city central to most Eastern and Western histories. Check it out Ms. Safat. Democracy always meant, that in the end, the majority decides. The freedom to decide has always been yours. But if your insolence compels you to march - you're actually a slave ... a slave to freedom. Think it over. Finally, that a curse will be suffered is nothing new. That it was verbalized here – now, THAT’S news.

Allowing a gay pride parade is anything but democratic, which means "rule by the people." Everyone knows that if the residents of Jerusalem were polled, the outcome would be majority against the parade. So where is the rule of the people? It is the tyrannical rule of the courts and the police dept.

The whole idea of righteous groups casting curses is ridiculous. A righteous person would pray for someone caught in a sin situation. First off, homosexuals are in their situations, for the greater part, because their basic emotion needs were not met and their gender identities never given a chance to develop in a healthful and normal way. They need our prayers for their situations, not curses. Homosexuality ISNO

you have never served any branch of military service. Follow your own advice!! Move to Israel, join the IDF, and do your part! Or, is that too much to ask? What lame excuse are you going to come up with?

look who is talking the big brave american who is afraid to live here and probably never served a day in the army. Never assume because you made an ass out of yourself. Not only did I serve in the IDF but am a retired officer. As for the muslims, it says in teh talmud which you do not accept so this disqualifies you as a jew, that we are not allowed to antagothe nations of the world. The Noachides are forbidden to engage in homosexual acts so a so called jew sho does is less than a goy. Piut that in your pipe and smoke it!

I don't know what the Torah says about homosexuals,but I Know what the God says about it in the Bible in the book of Leviticus Chap. 20Verse13, they shall surely be put to death !!! I don't know if you think God means what HE say, He said my words will not return void. Pray for Them. God did not creat them that way, God Bless you. IN HIS LOVE, Tom Tirey

G-D plainly calls homosexuality a crime that is supposed to be punishable by the death penalty at the hands of the government.not only is the practice an abomination to G-D and part of the reason He took israel out of egypt and into the holy land to drive out and exterminate the former occupiers it is a cause of a deadly disease that can be spread to the normal society. the government not only doesnt punish them it appears to condone them.no doubt the reason why our prophet isaiah calls the government and its leaders-you rulers of sodom isaiah 1:10.

hell unless they repent.

God has given the over to a debased mind that they believe a lie. They are lost.

See #96 on http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3294083,00.html

I can't find my link to the parent page of the link below, but people who want to avoid STUPID ARGUMENT #2 should read my back-and-forths with those who make your point that the pride parade is "undemocratic." http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/App/TalkBack/CdaViewOpenTalkBack/0,11382,L-3324182,00.html

But (1) I will be moving to Israel, and (2) I am over the age to join the IDF, but I will find some way to get some kind of experience there. So, Mr. Ghost, what's your excuse?

Where did you learn English? I find your "points" nearly unintelligible--and I can figure out almost anything. You have the mentality of a dhimmi. So much for Israel's "New Jew." You show the utter failure of Jewish education in Israel because you think that pronouncements made in Poland hundreds of years ago apply now to Jews in their (our) homeland. The political power of the Haredim must be broken, as they corrupt Judaism. Oh, and see my response to Le Phantom.

and the Pigeon. Please TT, enough with your selective enforcement of Lev.

as such. “Gehinom" is closer to Purgatory, which I hear Christians (Catholics) don't believe in anymore. Now get back to the Son & the Pigeon.

Where do you learn this stuff?

The link there was to a discussion that several people where having about gay rights parades and democracy. Those who want to avoid STUPID ARGUMENT #2 (or who are interested in the discussion) are advised to check it out forthwith.

the answer to all your questions is precisely these types of open public displays of sin. The reason we have all these problems is because of these very acts! Do you think god will bring us into his palace (aka: Eretz yisrael, and more so yerushalayim) and just allow us to spit in his face and receive no repercussions? The idoits are people like you who want to do whatever they please and then complain as to why we have troubles in this country. Think before you write next time.

millions have prayed during the Shoa . This did not help them , god was probably deaf . He [ if exists ] shall certainly not listen to those "prayers" now

I have been bloody up to my elbows trying to save comrades. I have listened to men burn to death who moments before were standing beside me. So, Mr. Lame Excuse, I don't need one. Why didn't you respond to #69, Mike of Jerusalem? It sounds like he has had a career you could only whine about. btw, you really do a lot of that!

and read it if you are interested in what G-D thinks.no doubt the citizens of sodom and those of pompeii thought that they were quite normal and that everything was fine until their hiroshema came and ended it all in an instant.G-D says that because of our filth He will bring down the tribes of ephraim and judah in a new moon(this only lasts at just before sunset in one day)hosea 5:7-15.when this happens our people will lose interest in their filth and start seeking G-D earnestly.

How is it possible to believe in such things ? do those believers still live in the dark middle ages ? He! wake up ! it's the 21st century ! God has said , have you heard him ? Homosexuality is sin , this is written . There are other's , living today , you can see them , hear them , they say that homosexuality is caused by genes . This is not written on an old piece of paper , this is written today , by a scientist . Believe in curses if you want , others laugh of this .

This is my last response to you if you do not choose a nom de plume that you intend to retain. I did respond to mike (in #78). Unfortunately, I did not use his name and used the wrong TB #. I am over 45, and, though hunky for my age, not exactly basic training material. What you "believe" is irrelevant to me. Also irrelevant is how much gore you have been submerged in, especially because most of that gore has been your own doing. You and your fellow Israelis have utterly botched your relations with the "Palestinians" and your experiment with democracy. Rather than improve your political system and kill your enemies, you make gay Jews into your enemies. They, of course, make common cause (or so they think) with the Arabs. BTW, being an officer in the IDF hardly counts as "a career [I] could only whine about," whatever that means. I don't care about your personal military heroism, Phantom. Most every scoundrel in Israeli politics has a respectable IDF history it seems. That didn't stop them from initiating Oslo, or expelling fellow Jews from Gush Katif. And as for "whining," I plead innocent. I don't ask you for mercy or for pity. I simply state my case as carefully as the situation and my time allow.

Hear the Word of the Lord: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind: it is abomination. Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things; for in all these the nations are difiled which I cast out before you: And the land is defiled: therefore, I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants." Leviticus 18: 22, 24, 25.

I would only hope that this parade be routed thru the ishmaelite neighborhoods might solve two of our problems The other problem would be solved by IDF service for the haredit and 6 months torah learning for Secular recruits........ yom-tov