Jerusalem is BOTH. That can be a problem when politics and religion have to cross paths. Many people feel that if something offends religious beliefs it should not be done in Jerusalem. But Jerusalem is also a POLITICAL CAPITAL. That means that if you want Jerusalem to be the everlasting Capital of the Jewish State of Israel, then you have to accept that political protests will take place within the city. The Rabbis may not admit to this. They may curse gays. They may be disgusted by it. But by staying home and or praying instead of inciting violence is they're new means of protest all I can say is, "Thank G-d they have finally seen sense." Let everyone enjoy Jerusalem both religious and secular. March in support of the parade which asks for equal rights for all, or stay home and pray. Each according to his ability and need.

Excuse me Ben, but actually child molesters come in all shapes, sizes and color. There is not one type and they are not necessarily gays. I'm straight and yet I feel your assumptions are wrong. You're generalising when maybe you forgot that it's not a certain community you belong to which cause harm to kids but they come in all races, all creeds and all religions. You just have it against the gay people because of your own beliefs and yet you're not willing to learn beyond what you know. Why don't you do some reading and learn more about your phobia about the gay people and maybe you'll learn that you're being very judgmental, old school or not old school. Being gay is not a choice - it's a way of life. Child molesters are indivual people who make the decision to torment their victims - you'll be surprised to hear that they don't all belong to one group or community. Get some education!!!

No scientist will confirm that the earth was created in 6 days . Even educated , not your retrograde , children know the earth is much older than the less than six thousand years . Regarding immorality , i'm sure you can teach me very much , what do you want for an one hour immorality course ? PS what's about my name ?

Miriam is not brainwashed . To be brainwashed you need to have brains , so she can't be . Retarded , ignorant [ not a wonder with her lack of brains ] still living in the dark middle ages , this she is .

illness my son Avi who served in the last Lebanese war in a tank-brigade which accounted itself proudly as israeli-dati soliders fighting for the medinat yiroel, he has been infected with this 6 day theory since he was young, Charles He was better equipped to deal with combat in Lebanon with his "middle-ages" then his father was 40 years earlier in the jungles of s-e asia with your thinking In conclusion, when you write a tb, keep it to the party you are addressing not his family, their is more that could be said but they will censor me........

By saying that child molestors do'nt necessarely come from gay circles ? I think that they most likely do'nt come from the gay community . In many , if not most , cases those molestors are well known to their victims , father , brother and so . Regarding this ben of Singapore [ i doubd ] ; he is also one of those who preaches , without any knowledge .

The torah teaches us that a day with the lord is as a thousand years, and a thousand years is as a day. Of course the earth is older than that. But between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 is a huge time span. In 1:1, God made the heavens and the earth. Period. And it was good. But there was bad happenings that happened in the heavens that caused God to turn his back on the earth. So the fossils of dinasaurs bones and things of that nature are very real and accurate. There was life here on earth BEFORE the creation of man. So the earth sat void and waste for many millions of years. Then God decided to make man and when that happened do you notice that he CALLED the vegetation to come forth? Why didn't he create it? Because it was already there. Now when he created man, that started the countdown of the 6 days. There is much more scientific evidence to back this up, but I have neither the time nor the space here to continue. Suffice it to say that this is just the readers digest version. So miriam indeed is accurate, and you are accurate in thinking that the earth is older.

Maybe Charles, sidney, sk, Daniel and David The Miriam Bashers are brainwashed. According to all of you, your religious ancestors who all of you once had were also all brainwashed. If the chain became broken because one ancestor would decide to be gay, you would not be here today to enjoy this world. But it is his free choice although he would be stealing choice of all the Jews that would come out of him. Miriam says there is a G-d that created the world in 6 days. Can you prove her wrong? Can you see all the radiowaves that pass through this world with your eyes? But that you believe is there. Why is seeing only believing when coming to G-d. If G-d would split the sea tomorrow would you believe in him? Probably not so who is truly brainwashed. Who believes what their small minds want them to believe. Was King Solomon wisest man on all earth brainwashed. Was Maimonides brainwashed. I mean all the scientists today are way past Maimonides and the hundreds of millions of Jews before you that came into this world including some of your own. Right? Was Darwin greater than Aristotle or Socrates, etc. How come they never mentioned evolution , monkeys and all that as an option. Charles and his cronies are you all greater and smarter than your great great grandfather. TOO MANY QUESTIONS and no answers

Socrates walked around Athens and infuriated people by showing them that they did not know what they thought they knew. This was probably why he was put to death. The average Athenian intellect, however, far surpasses Miriam's, which is of such low wattage that she couldn't discern truth if it lodged itself up her shmutz-hole. BTW, Miriam, honey, "God" is spelled "God," not "G-d." There is no more reason to avoid the "o" than there would to avoid the "a" in "Hashem." If you weren't such a subliterate robot, you would realize this. Anyway, isn't it time for your husband to come out?

Charles do you have a family? Children? Grandchildren? It seems your entire time is spent on talkbacks insulting people. Get out, have fun, play with your grandchildren. Play with your dog. Go watch a movie. Have lunch with friends. If you have no children, no pets and no friends then it must really suck to be you.

No worries, see you at the march at 17:00 corner King David/Hess. The Haredim can say what they like, but since they are not used to producing anything, there is not much they can do. They don't believe in their magic (prayer) either, otherwise how can you explain their use of violence. You obviosly don't know the statistics, with every Haredi student getting about 7 times the budget as a secular student and Mamlachti Dati getting 4 time that amount. You can call that fair, I call it imoral, but violence theft and lies are part of this societies "work ethic"

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Do'nt give your name away please , sad old middle age man [ if i can call you man ] as you are . Calling you a man is insulting for all the others . You give advice ? did you learn your children to lie as you do ? and this for a bipede who calls himself "religious" . How do you dare to insult all the TRUE believing people , by pretending you are also . Poor , poor guy , i'm sorry for you .

As you are Israeli , and not a galut Jew , write Medinat Israel please . I was also told some nice things regarding my family , directly at them . so it's "teko" . You have not to write about your son , it's also family no , so do'nt reproach me to say something regarding family .

I didn't know I was a cronie of charles. How come Aristotle didn't discuss evolution? Well, maybe because human knowledge, if not destroyed by religious fanaticism, grows over time. What, after all, would be the point of research if it uncovered nothing new? Aristotle also didn't mention hAsHeM. Yes, I can prove Miriam wrong regarding the 6 days, if a day means 24 hours. Indeed, just sign onto some natural history museum web site, and the abundant evidence of various fossil dating procedures will be definitive. You are just confused, Bush, regarding seeing & believing. I can't see gravitation, but I do understand something about it because I have had a good secular education. I also believe in it because those who know much more than I do and who base their knoweldge on scientific measurements that are accepted by the scientific community believe in it. The Catholics gave up logical proofs of God long ago. Some things cannot be proven. Sometimes we can see evidence with our unaided eyes; sometimes the eyes must be aided. This has nothing to do with textual analysis of the Torah. Miriam is brainwashed because she simply chants what her Haredi clique taught her to chant years ago. She does not think critically. Nor, evidently, do you, BUSH, or you wouldn't have trotted out the arguments you have here.

Court transcripts of testimony resulting in full exoneration of Valis here: http://www.cross-currents.com/archives/2006/08/22/yisrael-valis-no-signs-of-abuse/

SUX 2 B U. P.S. get a life

Why don"t you two exchange e-mails I am starting dating service as third job called........ b-buddies

check your sources. I actually knew you would bring this "source" very objective. Non the less, even if he were innocent, it does diminish the fact that his society came out before the trial, evidence or anything else wasprooven, and throw rocks (remind you of something), burned garbage cans and poured oil on Bar Ilan street with the intent of commiting MURDER by endangering car drivers. Did this not happen this week as well? those who are willing to kill in the name of abstract belief in GOD should be feared and their belief understood as very weak since they have to physically attack people rather then use their mouths or minds. But minds are a rare thing in this community, this is why the Lithuanians are againt the demonstrations, they tend to use their minds (a bit).

Agreed : Child Molesters come in all shapes sizez and color BUT GAYS are not angels.Even Religious molest/ rape kids. Child Molester them selves wre victims of such horror. Everything is learnt by the mind. Good and EVIL both are learned. This is not generalising but STATING a TRUE FACT. Yes I am homophobia but many are anti-gays too. Other wise why is there such a Problem with the Gay Parade? The society has two side to this EVIL. one who supports and the other who oppose.Yeah I think I am being judgemental and old- school but I am also asking myself why such anger in me ? I dont know something deep inside me sparks this disagreement. As such the idea that : Being gay is a CHOICE and a way of life is not digesting into my self. For Logical REsonings i find the child molester are not necessarly individual people who torment their victims but also manipulated the social problem like child prostituition. The illegal business is traced througout the world. For e.g there is place call Batam, Tanjung Pinang in Indonesia south of Singapore. Both Gays and Bisexual are participants aid, abbet, procure and counsel such crime of tormenting and abusing underaged children from poor homes.FLESH TRADE ! The law tried to stop these singapore criminals from abusing under aged children but the LAW IS AN ASS- again the issue of NO EXTRA_ TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION REASONs presses off the prosecution process. Gay dents do run child prostitutions. Another e.g, In Israel the Russian Immg Underage Children are being sexualy abused. Being Gay/ or what ever pervertic CHOICE they make, SURELY it is their very WRONG CHOICE .their CHOICE , but FOR SURE IS WRONG CHOICE, breaking all MORAL Equilibirum exasperatingly pique and also tormeting thier very own inner child in the Gay People.Now that is why they heart mind is not at peace, Such state of mind is clearly seen in their action- see they just evoke on PRIDE.PRIDE IN WRONG AREARS EVIL AND CURSES. ONE very wrongfull way of life and causing disturbeance in the holi city of David. Tell them to go else where, not in Israel please. Lisa ,the Torah is clear and I pray that they dont get bombed or murdered by the terrorist Hamas today there when they PARADE. It would be better if the stay at home. DOnt die for WRONG REASONS and dont PROMOTE SINFUL CULTURE. THat is what other Nations did and are doing in the past and present. e,g THE GREEKS, THE ROMANS etc .Israel SHALL BE the LIGHT to the Nations. You see this is a separate and a distinct call very special covenantal relationship that many forget conveniently just to justify abominations and EVIL FORCES. Homosextuality is Very Obsteperous and Obtuse.The gay parade is not pennyroyal with healing properties but a poison ivey. Children of Yisrael- be it known -the tent of Jacob has a hallmark character- to sluice so that everything honourable grows in abundance, but now this evil of homosexuality is a pennywort vulgaris among the marshy land. Dear Lisa , Yes, I will keep getting the education. I take your advice in my state of protest too ; - ) ~ ben singapore.

what are you smokin man! u must b dreamin most of the public does support us even non-jews thinks it is abomination unless ur one of those...

charlie you seemed to be a very troubled man and thinks the know it all, maybe u were molested as a child (oh still a child!) or maybe u molested kids but facts are facts u just hate jews altogether y dont u wait in the tunnel in gaza with the rest of ur gay friends

I sent in a thoughtful, well considered letter yesterday, which wasn't printed, possibly because of my critical attitude, even thougb couched in language of good taste. When I see the rubbish that you HAVE printed, I all the more realize the futility of not only writing in, but of even reading the articles.

Here is my prayer. "Ribbono Shel Olam: These people act and dress like the Egyptians and Canaanites of old, but their faces tell us that they are Jews. Please help them realize their insides have a Jewish Neshama, and help them do complete Teshuva before You. Please help them realize that holding such a parade in the Holy City is a desecration of Your Holy Name. א-ל נא רפא נא להם א-ל נא רפא נא להם. If they won't do Teshuva, please let them leave the Holy Land that You have given us."

"I actually knew you would bring this "source" very objective." How is a transcript of court testimony not objective? And you would call Larry Derfner, an extreme leftist anti-religious lynch inciter an "objective" source? Regardless of how people reacted to the false accusation and media lynch of an INNOCENT man the fact remains he was INNOCENT.