Can't you read ? in my # 81 i only said that they do a social work , to attract people in their nets , the same tactics as hamas . You are also one of those religious people who distord the writings of others , to give you a possibility to soil them . How can i have a serious discussion with people who act in this way ? you are not the worst , some are even lying . Names : of course you will not find Herzl as a name in a Hebrew dictionnary , it's a Yiddish name , and Yiddish is not Hebrew .

You are wrong , Herzl was NEVER israeli , how could he ? He died in 1904 , Israel was established 44 years later . Zionism unites Israeli people ? no . There are anti Israeli Israelis . Look at the edah haredit , and some other of those sects [ not all of course , some are also good Israelis , very good even ]. United means all together , and here you can't say this . Too much harsh oppositions between the different segments of the Israeli population . I think that Jews around the world have a link to this country . Religious and seculars alike . Halachic Jews are not excluded , others maybe .

he also did not circumcise his sons. his children converted to xianity. These are NOT positive Jewish traits.

Herzl is responsible for the death of over 20,000 Israelis. He caused strife within the Jewish people resulting in Jews who espouse hate of Jews better than any gentile could. Just look at some of the anti-religious sentiment expressed on this talkback page, some from people who live in “Israel” themselves, Disgusting! Let him rot in hell with Ben-Gurion

Hey I am a traditional Sephardi and Iraqi at at. I don't have a beard and I am as well aquainted with the works of Richard Dawkins as with the works of Rav Ovadia. And where ever you are you seem not to know about the other Israel, the Israel of the Moshavim and of Nativot and Ashdod and Dimona. You want to get out a bit more, you are well versed in what you do know and if you add to it well , you could become as well versed as me. Come on Charles that something worth aiming for.

My tb stating that the name Herzl means deer , is posted since 24 h , and nobody has seen that this an error [ tb 97 is posted ] Herz means heart , and a deer is Hersch or Hirsch . Now you in London . You did not react when i told you that you had distorted my writing . Do you think that i don't know what is happening in other towns ? That my eyes are only fixed at my town or Ramat Aviv Gimmel ? Yes shas does a social work , as i said , only to have people caught in their nets , have more of their schools subsided , take more money out of the government . They are not alone , chabad acts in the same way . We are far now from Herzl , and his great realisation , Israel

Look at my # 81 . Now those anti religious feelings are the result of this rabbi , who gave religious an occasion to attack a FANTASTIC GREAT JEW , his contribution to the Jewish people was greater than this of all this rabbis reunited . Those who live here thanks to him , not thanks to those rabbis , well if you do'nt like it , leave . If not , stay here , take state money , and stop soiling his BLESSED MEMORY .

Yes banknotes with zionists are fine , certainly when those anti Zionists can take them from the tax payers

Herzel despised the religious Jew just like you. You write utter piffle: “his contribution was greater than all rabbis united” - I don't think so. Of all his ideas, the resulting State of Israel is the worst. Look what has happened: After years of Jews being the persecuted around the globe now Jews are called colonisers and the oppressors! Jews are being boycotted, Jews are racist, Jews are targeted around the world to be killed in the name of liberating Palestine. Charles, take you Zionist state and all those that still believe in it to Paris and join Abraham Berg and let all the hardeim live in peace with the Arabs minding there own business and not having their lives dictated to by leftwing Jewish atheists.

The anti-zionists will try their best not to even touch the Israeli shekels, let alone use them. They do not take anything from the state, surly you know that. I can see you are quite obsessed with taxpayers money. Do you work for the Israeli revenue? Where do you get your inside info? How on earth can you suspect the religious public as a whole on not paying tax? And if they evade it – do only they not pay? For each religious taxpayer that evades there most probably are 5 secular that do. I mean just look at how the Israeli “leaders” role model for the public with scandal after scandal. Abi hershcorn was amongst the most infamous - taking all that march of the living money for himself – but not a crossword from you about him.

pay attention, I am referring to #32 use of sephardic .

What’s with this Shas net then? Do they go around fishing people in with illicit drugs and gambling? What’s their bait that you are complaining about then, an education in Sephardi traditions? Using cultural affinity and respect for Rabbanim and the Torah to draw people in? Enticing people to be more Torah observant? Getting people off the street, off drugs, off crime? Lending a hand to the weak and fallen? Wow what a sin! Oh yes what terrible things these Shas people do.

They only do this , good , work in order to have more Shasnikim , that's it . Other charidi founded organisations , great ones , work for the entire Israeli population , without any religious goal . Only Ve'ahavta et re'echa kamocha , they deserve more respect than those shas people

Yes , and you in London you know it better . Those anti zionists use the Israeli shekel , they can't pay with your pounds here . They do'nt take anything , no ? , 13 million shekel had to be used last week to protect this Parade from them . I do not speak about the religious , they are mostly GOOD israelis , Zionists . I'm only talking about the charidim . They mostly recognise the state , take of course much money . But do not pay much taxes , how could they ? great percentages of the two poorest Jewish towns of Israel , Yeroushalaim and Bne Brak , are charidi . In bne brak a majority . You maybe know that if you have many children , you do'nt pay much taxes . I'm not talking of tax evasion , they can't evade , having nothing to declare [ or not enough ] The last scandal ? a Shas rabbi caught with tens of thousand shekalim entering the country , without declaring them , and without providing a serious declaration regarding their origin .

You are right. It occured to me after it was too late. He was not Israeli. Thanks for the correction. And yes, we all have a connection to Israel. Shalom !

If the seculars leave who will defend them ? who will feed them ? What do they contribute to the State ? Had we had this state in 1930 , millions of Jews would had a place to hide . Yes , Herzl was a greater man . If for you Israel is the worst , why are you so interested in her ? i'll tell you why ? because you want to have a place to hide if necassary . Wait some years , when the city you live in will be renamed Londonistan . Then you'll be happy to come here , to this country mostly build by seculars , country you despice so .

There is an Iraqi Jew who served in the Yom Kippur war , he has a shop that sells middle eastern delicacies. Just mention the name Sassoon and ask for some Baba Kadrasi. Its absolutely sensational a very superior nougat like sweet. Enjoy and sweeten up, the treats on me.

A Jew is forbidden to curse another Jew; ...it says so in the Torah. Rabbi Avraham Yosef, control your mouth. HaShem has allowed the Jews to return to the homeland. If they choose not to acknowledge the Creator,...then they are taking the wrong path, and should be reminded to change their course. Putting down another Jew is Idol worship, because it completely removes HaShem from the picture and blames others for YOUR troubles. Blame HaShem instead for putting this frustration in your life; then do something that would bring you closer to the creator. Shalom My Friend.

there , have'nt see any piece of this . For me not a loss , i prefer black chocolate . What has the fact that he served in the Yom Kippour war to do with it ? He was not alone to fight . Are you related to this great Family , the Sassoon's ?

the Edah HaChareidis rabbinical council of Jerusalem and its associated communities, including Satmar, Dushinsky, Toldos Aharon and Toldos Avrohom Yitzchok, do not vote and do not accept government money. They also printed their own currency in order not to use the shekel

How do they pay the paper needed ? Do'nt they take a bus sometimes ? or send a letter ? Who will accept their worthless pieces of paper ? They live in a self sufficient community as they have to , as it was in the dark middle ages were they belong certainly ? You are knowing those people very well , where you also one of those iran visitors ?