If there is no Palestinian nation, is there and Israeli One????? It's a big JOKE. Well said number 1. As long as Palestine has some people like you, your future will inshallah be terrefic.

Accurate rendition of history, and important that we tell this story. But calling the Palestinians a fake nationality doesn't move anybody forward. They are who they are and the history between us is what it is. We need to deal with them based on how they behave. Right now, there isn't much, but we have to leave the door open and encourage them to give up their dreams of revenge for 1948, which they feed to their young like mother's milk.

For the past 40 years, all attempts at peace with the 'Palestinians' have reached a dead end. That was precisely because of our definition of them as a 'nation'. The Oslo attempt, and all that followed, used that definition and look where we ended up. If Israel, and the world, recognized them for what they are and not try to shove 'nationhood' down their throat, we may have reached a creative solution. Instead, our refusal to see things realistically has created the monster which we are now witnessing in Gaza.

the tenth.) In the Six Days War Israel took Judea and Samaria from Jordan, Gaza and Sinai from Egypt and the Golan from Syria. Now Israel still has possession of Judea, Samaria, Gaza and the Golan. There was no Palestine or 'Palestineans' then and there aren't any now. The various groups of Arabs should come forward and spell out what they offer Israel in return for what they want.

These two nations were conjured up from thin air by the Brits for their own devious political benefit.Now we have Blair coming over to stir the pot. The Brits are Machiavellian, characterized by expediency,deceit,and cunning.

You can't compare people of UK with Arabs living in our country. If you try should look at US in the 9th Century, and even in the 9th Century US had a history which Arabs living in our Land do not have. They do speak Arabic, are Muslems, and their main country is Arabia currently run by the Saudi clan. All arabs I met told me that they would love to live in Arabia but the Saudi clan forbid them to live there (they are not even allowed to work there). Thus, if you want to compare look at the history of UK about 2000 years ago.

How you and your kind strive, educate your young, pray to your God for peace with Israel and the rest of the world. You end your empty fantacy storie with "take my word" seems to me before anyone can take your words make peace with yourself and your muslim borthers and maybe only maybe the rest of the world including Israel will think about making peace with you. Start by waking up in the morning with a smile and not wake how to blow up your fellow muslim and call for jihad every time thing dont go your way. Good luck, oh and by the way i'm not going anywhere. :-)

What really happenned to the natives of Ameerica compares very much to what happenned and still happenning to the Palestinians.

There is a sea of change in US after the Civil War. Before, writings refered to the United States in the plural, as in, the United States are fighting the Indians. Afterwards, it was, the United States is. The US national identity was forged in the war between the States. It's shares of wars were fought in Britain, establishing a nation. The French fought their revolution. Every nation-state has it's share of tribal groups not part of the national identity, the Basque in Spain/France, the Native American Indian population, Amish, and other non-members of the American culture, etc. But the Palestinian Civil War can be a good thing... If the Arabs there "fight for Palestine" instead of "against Israel," they may forge a national identity. The failures in Iraq step from the assumption that there was a national identity there, but the Baathists never established one, just a rule of force over the country and keeping everyone in enthic conclaves turned against each other. It's the same reason Yugoslavia fell. For a national identity, the people must have fought to establish it, created that national identity.

The author uses broad generalizations and puts emphasis on irrelevant points to acheive a wrong conclusion. This borders on revisionism. Just ask any Palestinian if he thinks there is a Palestinian nation, and you will get your answer. Following the same logic, one could argue that there is no Israeli nation. Not so long ago, jews were scattered all over the world- mostly in Europe, were they lived in segregated communities, with often major differences between them. This situation is also prevalent today in Israel itself. Of course, making of this situation the basis for an argument against the rational existence of an Israeli nation is dubious and incorrect. That is the same for the Palestinians. I find it really strange for an Israeli to make that argument.

Cambridge is full of these morons, and left wing trust fund babies.

Palestine is the Arabic and English word for Eretz Yisrael. Eretz Yisrael is the Hebrew word for Palestine. The people of Palestine are the people of Eretz Yisrael. So much for semantics. The only interesting question is the question of rights. Are all the people of Palestine/Eretz Yisrael to enjoy the equal rights guaranteed by a democratic regime, or are some to be oppressed by others, and treated as second class or third class citizens? The formation of a "Palestinian nation" or an "Eretz-Yisraeli nation" will be possible only in the fight for equal rights for all. That requires the replacement of the occupation regime -- the regime of different rights for "Jews" and "Arabs" -- with a democratic regime. A democratic Palestine/Eretz Yisrael will permit all Palestinians/Eretz Yisraelis to coexist peacefully on an entirely new basis.

You've forgot the Muslims , today an other bomb of your "friends" ? What unites you is something positive . You have a common history for many centuries , you have a Queen , that's also uniting you , and probably your geography , an island , also has some unifying influences . Your name alone shows your nice views , you can't see reality . Also wishfull thinking of course .

Who gently but firmly have rejected them .....You wrote . You are right , who wants them ? what have they to offer ? Terrorism ? The Gazans were NOT admitted ro Egypt from 1948 to 67 , they had to stay there , or to leave for other faraway countries , were some were also rejected [ in Koweit after her liberation from Saddam ] and even seen as second class "citizens"

Numerous memoirs by Holocaust survivors record that, before the war, antisemitic Poles, Lithuanians etc frequently said "Jews go to Palestine". So even virulent antisemites recognised that Palestine was the Jewish homeland. Regrettably, the state of Israel together with Jews worldwide have allowed the concept of "Palestine" to be hijacked so that the word itself, the people or nationality (whether real or fake) and any future state refer only and exclusively to Arabs.

Interesting article.The Arab League has not recognized Israel.Maybe an successful conclusion to the Arab-Israeli conflict aren't their number one priority?!

It has always been clear for those who have at least a basic knoowledge of the region. But because of the "political correctness" such questtions were not brought to discussion earlier. Now the bloody events in Gaza make such discussions possible. Maybe the idea of Jordan for palestinian arabs and Israel for jews will prevail over the one for a separate Palestinian state (or two?)

i love how the ones who hate us, who cut themselves off from us and want nothing to do with us, seem to have the best knowledge of us. they tell us we arent related, our history is false, were greedy, were not real jews blah blah blah....listen people, we know who we are, we are the descendants of the Judans, who surivived the Assyrians but fell to the Babylonians but kept it together. We are the descendants of the survivors of the Roman tyranny and we have survived till today. Stick to yourselves and stop telling me who I am

that is a sick thinking. Let all different people to wish and have a nation life. I ALWAY LOOK AT PALESTINIANS AS A NATION. AND I WILL KEEP LOOKING AT THEM AS THE NATION. You have big problems with them. We see that. We support both of you to meet at some point of peace. THERE IS A ISRAEL NATION we always been supporting. THERE IS A PALESTIN NATION we always been supporting. Something is sick happenning. Love Atilla Liman Karagözoğlu

After all those bad days (well for both sides) they deserve to be. But, I always believed that They are a Nation. ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO WIN BY WORKING ON PALESTINE'S NON-EXIST. THIS IS SICK. Atilla Liman Karagözoğlu

this subject makes me sick. I am not a lover of any nation. I AM FOR JUSTICE.

YOU Sir, have a very narrow view. First, allow me to tell you to mind your own business - it is your "wide-viewed" people who created the mess in Pakistan/India and Israel/Arabs by arbitrarily defining impossible borders within your former colonies. Second, your countrymen and their Muslim acolytes did and still do try to anihilate the state of Israel through boycotts, media terrorism and fraternizing with the rabid Islam. UK is still an ocupier in Ireland and as such don't talk to us about "occupation and "ethnic diversity" - you are as rotten as ever. UK still exists as a country because no Scott, Welsh, Indian or Chinese tried to impose its religion and way of life on England - but YOUR "wishful thinking" is short-lived anyway - UK is being eaten from within by the barbaric Islam actively helped by the UK radical Left. You will soon face the only choice available to non-believers like yourself - either convert to Islam or die. Unless you are actually not really a "Brit4Palestine" but a "Muslim4UK" which explains your stupidity. It is interesting though that you took the time to read the article and send a reaction - is this a kind of "activism" your kind is trying to regale us with? Are you bonkers? Do you think that you have here a supportive audience? No SIr! Your remarks and venom only strengthens us, so don't waste your time here - do it in your local Mosque or Radical Left Pub! Get Lost!

Mr "Irrelevant" is comparing apples to oranges. Under successive Arab Caliphates and the Turks, the locals (always a fluid population, relocated at the whim of the local authorities) saw themselves as part of a tribe or clan first, secondly as a denizen of an area or city ( e.g., Damascene or Cairine), thirdly as a part of the Ummah and lastly, under the influence of European-educated nationalists, Arabs. Canada and Australia developed national identities forged over time as populations became isolated from the mother country and developed their own sense of self. While many can accept the "nationhood" of the Palestinians, we must also see it for what it is, "a mile wide and an inch deep".

Israel did not exist until 1948 and was build over the land of Palestine. Israel will die for sure, there is not other way for Peace and Justice rather than the death of Israel, a racist un democratic state build over the land of Palestine. Do whatever you want to do, think in the way you want, you will loose, you will loose and our land will be back. Racist states can not live for a long time. Look at south africa. Just try to learn from history, you talk about history and you forget the most important lesson

also see palestinansareamyth.com..... the arabs wil use anyexcuse possible to uproot the jews out of their legally and morralyrighted land. the arabs begun migrating in to the land of israel only as a response to the jewish migration at the end of the 19th century. arabs should go to arabia, it is very simple. we;ll help them pack!

Ali, Jesus was Jewish. So were all first Christians. Palestine is a Roman name, derived from Philistines, who disappeared long before word "Arab" came into existance. Your own holy book talks about Jews in Israel. Now go sleep in your ignorance.

Making a complete idiot out of yourself by using derogatory language on this forum doesn't make your opinion come across any better.

Israelis aren't a nation? Oddly enough we come from 100 different countries. Ashkenazi, Mizrahi etc but our ethnicity and nation is the same and always has been. We don't have a civil war. Unlike the "Palestine-ians' (It's like Balkan-ian or FYR 'Macedonian' or 'Central African' or 'Borsporan' or 'Persian/Arabian gulfian' :D:D:D).

They can have a country but they must have as a noun and adjective 'Non-Jewish-Western-Egyptio-Syrian Frontierians' Or 'Ethnic-Shami-Usurper-of-Other-National-Identity-&-Historyians' or '1% of every DNA under the sunians' or 'Most-Despised-Throwbacks-of-the-Ottoman-Empireians'