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Hebron: IDF kills Palestinian youth holding fake gun
Efrat Weiss
Published: 03.07.07, 19:56
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31. #19 - Gabriella's right.....lets send Claude...#5...
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (07.03.07)
to patrol Tulkarem and see what he does when a kid comes running with a plastic rifle.
32. Maybe now his family will emigrate, which is what you all
Apartheid ,   Boston MA   (07.03.07)
want isn't it?
33. Dear IDF, never mind the criticism
David   (07.03.07)
It was an accident. You're doing your jobs and you're doing it very well. You have a huge responsibility and the Israeli people will support you.
34. Idiotic talkbacks
support gun control ,   usa   (07.03.07)
Nobody wants to kill teenagers, no matter where they're from. Israeli's do not glorify this tragedy any more than cops in the usa glorify killing toy gun-toting teens in the inner cities. However, I agree that 16 year olds are asking for major trouble if they pretend with realistic-looking guns in an area where combat troops are operating. That really does get the Darwin award for poor judgement. I feel sorry for the parents of this unlucky boy. Even the best parents cannot control every foolhardy or reckless action done by their teenagers. Most unfortunate, but almost certainly a tragic mistake--not an intentional one.
35. #5, what's horrific is your....
DR ,   Florida, USA   (07.03.07)
blind ignorance in the matter. There is nothing wrong with "us people". When your country comes under constant terror and rocket strikes, you become a little synical and that is exactly what happened to Israeli civilians over the years. Why should they care about Palestinian kids, when the parents of these same kids teach them to hate and kill us??? Why should we be sympathetic to a culture which breeds hate and violence? And lastly, why haven't we seen your whining talk backs when Palestinians kill each other??? This happens all the time and women and children are killed all the time, but you stay silent....why?
36. Plastic Rifles Should Be THROWN On The Ground.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (07.04.07)
PLAYING with plastic M-16 assault rifle should be done INSIDE the safety of the own home fence. But, as soon as the Israeli soldiers appears on the scene -- all plastic assault rifle should be THROWN on the ground : none of the teenagers should have it in their hands !! BTW why should teenagers aim their plastic assault rifle at the Israeli soldiers ?? THIS means the teenagers are ASKING for problems. So, when problems come -- the guardians of the teenagers should NOT blame the Israeli soldiers !!!
37. 25 mica, those people have been "squatting" there for thous
Apartheid ,   Boston MA   (07.04.07)
thousands of years. where were your people?
38. #4..idan
Nemesis   (07.04.07)
Too bad itwasn't you standing there when the kid pointed his "plastic gun" at you. Can you tell at a distance what ia real and what is not? Would you take a chance? Obviously you would,I sure wouldn't . These kids know better,so give me a break. The only idiot is someone like you...get up on the front line..see what it's like.You make me sick!
39. A 16 year old is not a CHILD. Not in the PA.
Glenn ,   Canada   (07.04.07)
No even in the West. But particularly in the PA, with their culture of violence. As soon as a kid is old enough to walk, they are sent out to throw rocks at the IDF. In the meantime they are all well versed on how to shoot guns, so even a kid as young as 12 is considered a soldier in the "resistance". The IDF should not be held accountable for responding to an act of aggression by a 16 year old.
40. Playing with toy gun.. what will he do with 72 virgins?
freejay ,   Israel   (07.04.07)
This whole story stinks of a set up.....what 16/17 year ols man, not boy, would still be playing with toy guns...................come on now, seriously think about it. I think it was real guns and the pali propaganda is at full steam.
41. Kill any thing that moves
Mohammad ,   Belfast   (07.04.07)
This is state terrorism since the boy was hit so many times in the upper body. Soldiers had the intent and determination to kill especially when he posed no threat to them. An investigation is a waste of time and white wash. It also adds insult to victims. I am sure that rules of engagement don't allow such act of murder.
42. #41..Mohammed
Nemesis   (07.04.07)
I see you're another happy immigrant,taken in by a country and t urning against them..what's new? How old was this kid? 16-18? Pal kids have real weapons as soon as they can hold them properly,maybe 12 yearsold,so why would a 17 year old havea toy gun? C'mon..enough propaganda.
43. reply to 37
Jackie ,   Florida, USA   (07.04.07)
You apparently believe Arabs have been residents of Hebron for thousands of years. Actually the city was occupied for Jews continually and completely, until the 1929 massacre of Jews by Arabs. So learn a little history.
44. ADVENTURES IN BABYSITTING
Potsy Webber ,   Waubeshaw, USA   (07.04.07)
here achmeeed, here's a toy gun..now run along and play in the street where the IDFmust monitor our barbaric islamic behavior
45. "Apartheid": you make the most irrelevant, biased comments!
Shut up already! ,   usa   (07.04.07)
At least Mr. Micah has a reason to fight for his country: faith and national pride. What the hell is your point other than picking up somebody else's cause? Are you even Palestinian? Why do you never mention the numerous injustices around the world perpetrated in the name of Allah? What do you have to say about what Palestinian Fatah al Islam militants did in Lebanon (killing UN peacekeepers!!)? How about what almost went down in the UK? Do you think terrorism is a political tactic that is justified when people get angry because they feel that they are disenfranchised? And what about all the other disenfranchised people of the earth who happen to live in Arab-controlled countries? Will you pick up their cause? or do you solely exist on this site just to attack Israelis because deep down you believe that they have no right to have a state let alone defend it?
46. #41 Bottom Line: Wrong place at the wrong time.
remember sean bell? ,   usa   (07.04.07)
Political spin will not bring this kid back to life, unfortunately.
47. To Terry #10. To Proof Their Manhood.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (07.04.07)
You write :".., proof of their manhood, ...". THIS means that the ladies of the household are very dominating in that society. SO, for the Muslim men to proof their manhood is by carrying weapons and by engaging in household violence. IT is idiotic that such a backward society still exists in the 21-century modern world. UNLESS the Muslim men learn to negotiate about EVERYTHING with the ladies of their own household -- they will remain violent, and thus a curse to the whole world !!!
48. to Moham-mad , Bombfast
christ ,   Holland   (07.04.07)
In a peacefull land like mine, replica-guns are forbidden! In a area like the westbank.......?
49. #41 "Posed no threat"
Pierre Boulboul ,   Paris   (07.04.07)
Sorry you are as idiot as the young man with the toy gun For a culture that that raises up toddlers to hurl rocks at IDF (and anyone ), and hundreds more firing at IDF, hmmm, teenager with a gun is no threat ???? No way to know the gun is fake till you get close enough, which of course an idiot like you will only want to examine from close range
50. # 40 you mean 72 virgin dogs right?
not a muslim anymore   (07.04.07)
51. #5 Claud-Why don't you go over to
Allan ,   US   (07.04.07)
North County late at night brandishing a "toy gun" and see what the gangstas do to you. I lived in St. Louis for 4 years and can tell you, it aint gonna be pretty.
52. #51..Allan..re:#5 naive Claude
Nemesis   (07.04.07)
Some people just don't live in the real world,and I guess Claud iis one of them.
53. 45 shut up already, perhaps you havn't noticed that mainstre
Apartheid ,   Boston USA   (07.04.07)
mainstream American press is obsessed with injustices perpetrated in the name of Allah while Israel can do no wrong. Perhaps you haven't noticed that no one can become a viable candidate for the office of President of the United States of America without kissing Israeli butt. Perhaps you haven't notice that pro-Israel neocons have gotten us up to our necks in shit in the Middle East.
54. A 16 year old is not a child
(07.04.07)
When I was 16 I was not playing with toy guns. And I surely was not stupid enough to wave one around in the vicinity of people who had real ones. What muslim extremist group was he pretending to battle against?
55. That's a lie
Micha   (07.04.07)
My name's Micha, not mica and with a capital M. My people was there same time, same place. We have been in the land of Israel for millenia. I don't see Romans there anymore, so I guess the land in the Torah would be the land of Israel, the land of the Jews. Sure, the Torah could just be a book, but written a long, long time ago. And again, Israel is the land of the Jews. Jews were expelled from all over the middle east. Israel is made up of Jews from all over. Lastly, if arabs could possibly live under a majority Jewish rule, there would be no problem. But see, that's where the problem is, and yes, apartheid is what we call it. Arab apartheid. against the Jews. You got it right there in Boston. And how bout using a real name instead of hiding. I'll not answer any further comments of yours until you write your name. So, to sum up, if the arab moslems could tolerate living under a Jewish govt, then no problem. If they do, they've got a gazillion other places to live. This is what happens throughout history. Peoples are displaced. The Jews have been displaced all throughout history, and now we reclaim our land. Would you deny the black South Africans the same? You are the true racist and apartheid follower. Good choice in moniker.
56. 55 Micha If its a lie then who built all those old stone
Apartheid ,   Boston USA   (07.04.07)
towns and villages. Who has been living in them from time immemorial? Genii? Who built all the old mosques?
57. Kids, normal and retarded
Rebecca   (07.04.07)
One has to remember that Hamas has used both normal and retarded children as bommers. What chances can we take. Yes it should end. We want peace now, but not at the cost of our land and our lives.
58. Psychological Warfar
Stan ,   JHB RSA   (07.04.07)
A premeditated sacrifice to gain world media attention - again. The damage has been done - the gun turned out to be a toy. Coincides nicely to defuse the media attention caused by the "doctors" in UK - coupled with the release of Johnson - regain the highground. Why no-one mentions the tossing of people of rooves of high rise and summary executions?
59. Plastic guns
Talula ,   Israel   (07.04.07)
This would have happened on the streets of London, New York or any other place in the world. The days of toy guns have long passed. Who walks around holding a plastic M-16 assault rifle in such a volatile area? The needless death of a child will leave yet another family wailing for their loss. But where were they while their child was out waving a plastic gun in front of our soldiers? I do not blame our soldiers - they had to make a judgement call. Had that gun have been real, and 99.9% of times they are, it's their life on the line and they are told to do whatever it takes to protect themselves. They did just that.
60. The soldiers taking care of our Hevron are heroes.
Keren ,   SP-Israel   (07.04.07)
They are CONSTANTELY provoqued by arabs,CONSTANTELY! I saw this with my eyes! May Hevron be populated by as many Jews as possible ,soon! I myself was wondering to live there in the future.
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