In general, for anyone, I oppose adoption on principle as long as a biological parent is still alive. People claim they want to "help" the "poor children," Bull! They are selfish and just because they couldn't have their own, they could care less about how any biological parent may be pained by it! And later, when the child grows up and l earns they've been adopted, and want to seek out their biological parent, the adopters are disappointed or hurt! But the Left has corrupted and twisted all reason, which is why the world looks the way it does today, and getting worse. Except for the gays, of course.

My ex-wife was an Israeli social worker, and I was a OLEH CHALASH from America, who couldn't BS in Hebrew like she could. No way I was going to win. But, thank God, I've been back in America now for quite a while, and my son, baruch hashem, is now in the US Navy. With Israel the way it is going, it worked out okay after all. I didn't miss a thing. From what I see here, the country is even worse now than when I left it. Hard to imagine it could get worse. But now It has gone to the gays and faygelach. Better already in America.

There was no hatred expressed in my post..lighten up a bit..I simply stated my opinion..isn't that what talkbacks are all about?..Expressing ones' opinion?

Children raised in same-sex homes are deprived of the benefits found in the unique influences found in a mother and father's differing parenting styles. Much of the value mothers and fathers bring to their children is due to the fact that moms & dads are different. And by cooperating together and complementing each other in their differences, they provide these good things that same-sex caregivers cannot. The fathering difference is explained by fathering scholar Dr. Kyle Pruett of Yale Medical School in his book 'Fatherneed: Why Father Care is as Essential as Mother Care for Your Child'. Pruett says dads matter simply because "fathers do not mother." 12 Psychology Today Explains, "Fatherhood turns out to be a complex and unique phenomenon with huge consquences for the emotional and intellectual growth of children." 13 A father, as a male parent, brings unique contributions to the job of parenting that a mother cannot. 12. Kyle D. Pruett, Fatherneed: Why Father Care is as Essential as Mother Care for Your Child, (New York: The Free Press, 2000), pp17-34. 13. "Shuttle Diplomacy," Psychology Today, July/August 1993, p 15.

is false. They are not mainstream. We see them as the criminals they are and they are pariahs in gay circles. Don't make stupid statements you can't substantiate.

wants to spend the money to house and keep these orphans. So the last result is to let a bunch of queers that Israel is willing to let queers adopt them. It's all about Israel is no longer being responsible for the up keep and welfare of the kids. This has NOTHING to do with queers being good parents. This all has to do with the gov't. getting out of it's responsibility of taking care of orphans.

By the way,Charles,who exactly do you think you are telling me that I don't deserve children? Anyway,you're too late..I have two tall sons,grown up and making their way in the world,which is probably more than you can claim. You sound like some kind of wingnut to me.

Amazing how Jews (I assume you are Jewish) love to attack anyone who follows the millenia-old Judaism that is the only reason that Isragirl or other seculars even have a Jewish identity. It's not the seculars that would preserve it all these years. So, to refer to "Jewish ayatollahs" is really just petty name-calling. And to assume that people who don't think gay parenting is okay have never been to Israel or don't speak a word of Hebrew is just bigotry of the first order. If you want a rational discussion, then speak rationally. Most of those who agree with you are so insecure in their beliefs that, like you, they resort to attacks on religion and unwarranted assumptions about people, rather than discuss things rationally. Instead, they call our opinion "hate" as if there is something lovable about people who have sex with same genders or surgically change their genders or cross-dress. From a "Jewish ayatollah" to a proselyte: the Torah wisely prohibits these things.

Likewise, a mother, as a female parent, uniquely impacts the life and development of her child, as Dr. Brenda Hunter explains in her book 'The Power of Mother Love: Transforming Both Mother and Child.' 14 Erik Erikson explained that father love and mother love are qualitatively different kind of love. Fathers "love more dangerously" because their love is more "expectant, more instrumental" than a mother's love. 15 Children need mom's softness as well as dad's roughhousing. 14. Brenda Hunter, The Power of Mother Love: Transforming Both Mother and Child, (Colorado Springs: Waterbook Press, 1997). 15. As cited in Kyle D. Pruett, The Nuturing Father, (New York: Warner Books, 1987), p. 49.

I have tons more research on how damaging divorce and remarriage is to children than I do on gay issues. Actually, your single parent mom (God rest her soul) may have done you a favor because she did not "haul some man into our house". By not having a step-father, you may have grown up in a safer home. Research on child-abuse indicates that preschool children who live with one biological parent and one stepparent are 40 times more likely to become a victim of abuse than children living with a biological mother and father. 16 Martin Daly and Margo Wilson, concluded, "stepparenthood per se remains the single most powerful risk factor for child abuse that has yet been identified." 17 16. Bonnie Barber and Janice Lyons, "Family Process and Adolescent Adjustment in Intact and Remarried Families," Journal of Youth and Adolescience," 23 (1994): 421-436; Popenoe, 1994, p. 5. 17. Martin Daly and Margo Wilson, "Child Abuse and Other Risks of Not Living with Both Parents," Ethology and Sociobiology, 6 (1985): 197-210.

and selfish? Wasn't that a claim of the various bigots during the last pride parade controversy? But, when gays show that they want to adopt, that old criticism is mysteriously forgotten.

Couples who couldn't have children could fulfill the mitzvah of "being fruitful and multiplying" by adopting. Hm... Yup, he'd probably say that given that there was a gay couple, at least it should adopt kids.

Sheikh uses as his baseline condition, as far as I can tell, two-parent, mixed gender families. He then attempts to show that, e.g., single-parent families, post-divorce, do not compare favorably. You, dear readers, should immediately understand that he is using the WRONG BASELINE for what he wants to establish, namely that gay adoption is bad. The correct baseline would be, in general, kids in foster care. Then the appropriate comparison would be between two-person same-sex couples and foster care. He has not a shred of evidence that kids would be harmed, and indeed, the two-parent mixed-sex results might well translate to two parents of the same sex, at least largely. There are LOTS of other problems with how he approaches his studies, but I don't have hours to devote to this TB.

do name calling? My goodness, you have QUITE the filthy mouth when you're not piously lecturing Isragirl on her manners. PLEASE, PLEASE "ascend" already. Please.

I am sorry that your child was taken away. You are surely right that women get preferential treatment by courts, and this is an outrage. But your belief that gays have priority over hetero men is just nonsense.

as long as gays are involved.

J, would you prefer a gay couple with adopted kids next to you or a large extended family of Arab killers? One of the great idiocies of Feiglin is that he allowed himself last year to set Jew against Jew regarding gay issues, thus strengthening the Leftist status quo. Don't you understand that even many people who don't like gays seem to treat gay issues as a "canary in the mineshaft," thinking that someone who is excessively anti-gay is likely to be religiously coercive on issues that "really matter"? The chances of getting Feiglin are much lower when he (and you) spout off about gay issues. Even if you hate gay people (as I suspect Feiglin does), you will destroy an all-Jewish coalition by focusing on this issue. Andy, for your part, you should seriously reevaluate your sympathy for Arabs. They are much more likely to kill you (and me) than Jeremiah or the penguins.

Oh, yeah. Here it is... RAM! BAM! THANK YOU, er... dude!

If you understood how to interpret results from social science research, you would know that these studies cannot show causality. You might also wonder whether the sample of persons studied in this research had precisely followed the protocols of experimental design. Most research from back in the day (you mention Erikson) relies on the idea that gays are mentally ill. Of course, these researchers were hard pressed to study sane gay men, so they had to study only those in asylums! You can review that on www.thislife.org show entitled "83 Words." Sorry sheikh. You have no experience in research. Your claims are bullshit.

I'm Charles , an Israeli Jew , who thinks that with your ideas you don't deserve to be a "parent" I will not describe my family , it's not the place here . But i can tell you that i have more Jewish descendants than you have .

A divorce can be done in a smart way , without disputes , without judges who allow the custody to one or other side . You can have good agreements with your partner , certainly regarding the children . Also , exept some extreme cases , in most of the divorces the fault is on both sides . Regarding you being an "oleh Chadash" when your divorce happened , are there not English speaking lawyers here ? That's only an excuse in my eyes . Now that you left this country is not bad , happy to get rid of you and your 17th century ideas .

It's just because Israel is preoccupied with the welfare of those kids [ not only orphans ] that Israel wants to take those kids out of foster families and let them be adopted by loving parents , be it a gay family . That's still much better than to stay with not loving people [ not all of course , there are exeptions ]

No, my experience is not research. MY EXPERIENCE IS COUNSELING TEENAGERS FOR OVER A VERY LONG PERIOD OF TIME!! To understand the hows and whys of teenage development, I have studied other peoples research. My personal observations while working with teenagers backs-up the research I have quoted 100 percent! The OPTIMAL WAY TO RAISE CHILDREN IS IN A HETEROSEXUAL/BIOLOICAL TWO PARENT HOME. My understanding of statistics is good enough to grasp this reality: THE FUTHER YOU DEVIATE FROM WHAT IS OPTIMAL, THE GREATER THE PROBABILITY OF GETTING LESS THAN OPTIMAL RESULTS. With my DECADES of experience behind me.. today I can predict with reasonable accuracy what child will struggle in life and what child will thrive. My understanding of research and statistics also tells me that there is still not enough evidence to support giving a green light to gay adoption. IT IS TOO SOON TO TELL! Sociologist of the sixties claimed that NO FAULT DIVORCE would cause no problems. HAH!! What a total crock that turned out to be! Now that the free love- no fault divorce experiment of the sixites is into it's third generation, we can see what a TOTAL TRAIN WRECK it has caused! Even though the parents may have been happier.. CHILD DEVELOPMENT TURNED OUT TO BE THE REAL LOSER. There is tons.. yes, TONS of reaseach to back up what I am saying.

The influence of the divorce of their parents depends mostly on the manner the parents divorce . A divorce can be successful , and then the children will not be the loosers . One of the first facts you can observe by children of bad divorcees are their school results , they are worse than before . In any case , leaving a couple "united" is also wrong for the children . They feel that there is something wrong , and suffer .

Actually, I didn't go to court, and we did use a lawyer, who I paid for by the way, but I later found out that (a) my ex-wife, the social worker, had a lover waiting in the wings in Argentina, and (b) she had colluded with the lawyer (who I paid for) and the Hebrew legalese in the contract had subtleties that worked against me. In any case, I am more happy to be rid of a country ruled by the likes of leftists like you. I left my money in ISrael; all I got from ten years in Israel was pain and sorrow. God bless America. I don't need you, trust me.

You are 100% correct, as more and more decent hetero men have learned to their chagrin. The liberal Left both in the US, ISrael and the western democracies in general, have managed to implement the most heinous policies designed to destroy the traditional nuclear family. No fault divorce, abortion, and now gay marriage and adoption ALL have the "unintended consequences" of destroying the very fabric of society. They will not be satisfied until the "evil" straight man is completely broken and enslaved to them.

So much excuses to find , or was the whole world maybe against you ? When trying to bring in too much of such facts , you discredit yourself and make the whole story inbelievable . Bye bye poor jack

I have followed your story all thru the TB's. You got screwed, all right! Today, whenever I have a legal issue, I always get a second opinion from a 2nd lawyer. Lawyers are my favorite customers, so I do not mind spending money for their legal opinions!! A little over a year ago I stummbled onto the Ynet news site. I expected the majority of Israelis to be like you and Baruch of Boston. Wow! Was I ever wrong! You said it best: GOD BLESS THE USA! Take heart! Fight the good fight! What once was will be again. G-d and history are on our side.

I have a "filthy mouth"? Here are some of the words that I use, to which I'm sure all the GLBT crowd objects. I use them because I feel that are appropriate words to describe them and what they do, and I need to be precise in my discussions. I include the definition from Merriam-Webster that expresses what I mean. freak 3 : one that is markedly unusual or abnormal: as slang (1) : a sexual deviate dys·func·tion 1 : impaired or abnormal functioning 2 : abnormal or unhealthy interpersonal behavior or interaction within a group un·nat·u·ral 1 : not being in accordance with nature or consistent with a normal course of events 2 a : not being in accordance with normal human feelings or behavior : PERVERSE ab·nor·mal : deviating from the normal or average weird 2 : of strange or extraordinary character : ODD, FANTASTIC de·vi·ant : deviating especially from an accepted norm mal·ad·just·ed : poorly or inadequately adjusted; specifically : lacking harmony with one's environment from failure to adjust one's desires to the conditions of one's life bi·zarre : strikingly out of the ordinary: as a : odd, extravagant, or eccentric in style or mode