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91. S Judah
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I haven't any problem living here . This country is HISTORICALLY mine . You say it was given to the Jewish people by god , i say it was conquered after the Jewish people recovered his freedom from slavery . Then Jews built it and made Yeroushlaim their capital . Jews built this country , beginning thousands years ago , and then again in the 19th century . A COUNTRY BELONGS TO THOSE WHO BUILD IT [ even with the "locals" as workers ] WHO DEVELOP IT
What did the other peoples who lived here contribute to the developpement of this region ? Had they once a independent country here ? It was only independent unther Jews , thereafter it was only unther strang rule and occupation
Coming to the modern times . What did the "palestinians" build here ? Did they have something as a governement ? did they have health care organisations of their own ? Did they have a workers union ? The only thing they had was a arab anti jewish organisation unther the leadership of this Husseini [ a Hitler adept ]
So this are some of the reasons a secular lives here , without any problem regarding ownership
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92. 91 Charles
S Judah , |
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Acco, Jaffa, The Triangle, Abu Gosh, to name but a few.
I cannot see how we look good if we follow your line.
It was pretty much covered in the Movie Exodus , by Akiva (Stern gang leader in prison) saying to his nephew Ari (more moderate Hagana) that we the Jews have suffered enough, it was now someone else turn .
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93. S Judah
charles , |
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What with Acco , Jaffa ? Abu Gosh is an Israeli Arab village , who enjoy to be here , to live in Israel , and to produce an annual festival . They also enjoy a great popularity on Shabbat , when Israelis come to have a fine meal there and to make some shopping . I'm not sure , but i think that they are Catholics . With this all their life standard is not that of a "suffering" people
Regarding the remark made by this Stern gang leader , he was wrong . They have not to suffer , and the Israeli Arabs enjoy a far much better life than their brethren .
You have to know that in every country there are less developped regions that are poorer , less educated . Look only at the southern part of Italy , and there they are all Catholic Italians . Look at the suburbs of most , if not all , the great European town . Look also at the suburbs of your town . Have they all the same living standards as others ?
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94. Charles - A couple of points we can for sure agree
S Judah , |
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1. Not only do they have a better standard of living.
2. They have the freedom.
The right to complain and remain healthy is not so good on the other side of the fence.
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95. So , S. Judah
charles , |
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I'm right to live here as a secular ! i do not nead religious justifications , i have much better reasons . Give me your answer , or can't you say to someone that he is right ?
You never answer directly , only ....points we can for sure agree .
Of course , those points i can only agree with .
You spoke about some places , well i ask you , what is wrong with them ?
Is this your religious education that makes you avoid direct responses ?
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