across current arab controlled lands. The "palestinian" arabs that we talk about, already received more than their fair share of land in what is now Jordan. Let's not be ridiculous about what is theirs and not.

I think the Arabs should utilize their Right of Return to go back to...Arabia! And Jews should be allowed to return to...Judaea! Boy, how come nobody thought of that back in 1949?!?

If they the Palestinians had accepted the choice given them in 1948 they would have had somewhere to return to. Instead they chose war and lost. Let them return to Jordan, Egypt and the West Bank, to Israel "Never"

of those little boys they molested for years!!!

Look at how they forced Jewish children to convert if they were to be saved. Also, they never returned the Jewish children to the parents who'd survived the concentration camps. Mind you, they refused to return the artefacts from the 2nd Temple, nor the artefacts they stole from Jews during the war.

....whole world knows they have nothing their to go back .....

The Palestinians needs to start a new life.They need to do so due to their lack of a "unity-feeling" for a state of their own.They will be very busy in the years to come,if there will be an agreement with their neighbors.Why have this camps existed for so long ? No one has tried to let them settle in other nations.I strongly believed the UN normally tried to do so ? In addition, dear Vatican,what about other people from other disputed areas,like former Yugoslavia?

Return all the land and property the arabs stole from the Jews. Return all Jewish property,land,books and religious articles that the church stole from the Jewish people. Too bad they cannot return all the Jews the church murdered,forcibly converted and tortured.

What else is new?

of return than the American Indian, or the Germans to Danzig and Prussia. They went to war and lost 5 TIMES! They are losers of the highest order and should spend eternity ruing their collective failures.

No tax exemptions for any church properties in Israel. Just our way of saying thanks for their support.

let them go back to Palestine with East Jerusalem as their capital ! Next Year in Jerusalem !

How you ask the arabs and the muslims to stop hating you ,and refuse you to settle in their middle , just if you read these talkbacks in this topic you yourself will start hate your selves. Change yourselves change your torah and what it is pretend , and then come ask others to stop hating you .

at the end of the second world war, there were tens of millions of refugees across europe. their children and grandchildren are not now refugees. they were settled and became citizens of the countries in which they settled. the arabs sought to create an enduring refugee problem for political purposes. they refused to allow resettlement or any kind of normalization of the conditions of the arab refugees. the arab countries always cared more about the political utility of the refugees than about their welfare. and the arabs have always had an ally in the RCChurch; the history of two millenia of unremitting cruelty, hostility, barbarism to the Jews, punctuated only occasionally by some momentary display of decency tells the story. we saw a brief period from the early 1960's through the present in which there was an effort by some church leaders to dissolve the ancient hatred for the Jews. that effort, which was not consistent or whole-hearted, appears to have come to an end. the RCChurch is reverting to form.

As #10 noted, the only ones crapping on Christian Arabs seem to be their Muslim 'brothers'. I know it's always a struggle for Arabs, but if you are going to speak about current realities, do so with some honesty.

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Oxford historian, and undisputed authority in this area, James Parkes has documented the following in his book, The Conflict of the Church and the Synagogue. Displacement Theology The Christian claim that the NT supersedes Tanakh, combined with the intractable NT contradiction of Tanakh, demonstrates and absolutely PROVES that Christianity is a displacement theology. Without that displacement, you have nothing but an idolatrous Roman counterfeit, conceived by Paul and born of Roman idolatry in 135 C.E. that is PROVEN false. Pope, a Displacement and Counterfeit Netzarim Paqid The earliest extant Church historian, Eusebius (260 – 340 C.E.), documented the watershed disconnect of Christianity from the 1st-century Torah-teaching Pharisaic Ribi, Yehoshua: the expulsion of Jews from Yerushalayim by the idolatrous Hellenist Romans in 135 C.E. Included among the expelled was the 15th Netzarim Paqid, Yehudah ha-Tzadiq, whom, the earliest Church historian (Eusebius) recorded, the Roman Hellenists displaced with their "first gentile bishop," Mark[us] (Eccl. Hist. IV.v.3). Eusebius also documented that the "papal succession" didn't exist until, by his own admission, Hegesippus fabricated it in the 3rd century (Eccl. Hist. IV.xxii.3). There is no connection between the Christian counterfeit displacement-paqid (the pope) and Shimon Keipha (Hellenized to "Simon Peter"). Similarly, Hellenized J*esus is an idolatrous Roman ANTI-Torah counterfeit of the PRO-Torah Ribi Yehoshua. Simply calling J*esus by a Hebrew name, or tradition and wealth of the pope, doesn't change these counterfeits to the original any more than calling counterfeit bills "dollars" transforms them to genuine money. Thus, Christianity is an ANTI-Torah displacement theology, J*esus is a fictional ANTI-Torah (Roman) Hellenist displacement, counterfeit (per)version of PRO-Torah Ribi Yehoshua and the misojudaic Christian counterfeit paqid (the pope) is a self-proclaimed (Roman) Hellenist displacement, counterfeit version of the Netzarim Paqid – who never left the Israeli Orthodox Jewish community. Even beyond that, the whole claim of papal succession has been based on a false line admittedly fabricated in the late 2nd century by Hegesippus. The earliest source claiming that I*eisous (the Greek, from which the English J*esus was derived) was the way to g*od is papyrus P-66, which dates from approx. 65 years AFTER the forcible Roman ousting of the last Netzarim Paqid (Paqid Yehudah, ha-Tzadiq) by the first gentile displacement counterfeit-paqid: Mark, the first Roman Hellenist bishop (revised in the early 3rd century, ca. 200 C.E., to pope; Eusebius, Eccl. Hist. IV.v.3). The rest of the NT sources didn't exist until the 4th century C.E. (Codex Sinaiticus, Codex Vaticanus and the Greek-to-Aramaic Peshiteta). Eusebius documented that the original followers of Ribi Yehoshua, the Netzarim, never accepted the NT (EH III.xxvii.4-6), holding only Torah to be Bible and only their own Hebrew Matityahu to be a legitimate account of the life and teachings of Ribi Yehoshua. Paqid Yirmeyahu Israeli Orthodox Jew Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il

the world over, sit in the Vatican. Not to mention their thorough knowledge of the bible. Trouble is - their hatered for Jews overcomes any morsel of justice or truth. Don't forget that the Pope in his youth has been a member of the Hitler Jugend! That is the reason for his praying to the success of the highest Mafia Echelon' in Annapolis and talks about "Two Peoples", knowing very well that there never was in this world any "Palestinian People" nor was there a "Palestinian State" in the Holy-Land"! Suche a being was never mentiond, not even in his "New Testament" It is a false monstrosity born of deep inborn hatred!!! As every one of you well knows, all Jewish citizens in our land are persecutions and hollocaust refugees from all over the world, not the least from Jihad countries, which are now, mostly, Judenrein!!! They always had much more than enough to settle all Arabic so called "Refugees", one to a kilometer, and it would not be noticed! Imagine us, Jews, second and third generation to Holocaust refugees, still sitting there, whinning for being "refugees". But the Arabic league needed those "refugees" as the richest "political gold-mine", as desribed by a rich Lebaneas merchant to colonet Meinerzhagen. The merchant added that those people were the trash of humanity, but worth their weight in gold... That "people" is a sham coming into being by the most dangerous enemies of the Jewish people, led by "Israelis", especially, by al their governments, since Ben-Gurion, up to these very horrorful days, on which we are being sold down the river (Jordan?)! p.s Not to forget that at the same time, on which the Arabic "refugees" had been made, in World-War II, a 100,000,000 people came to be real refugees! All(!) of them were rehabilitated by those states giving them refuge. The easiest to rehabilitate were the Arabs, who were staying in the Arabic zone, speaking the language of the land, professing the same religion, sharing the same culture, and, in fact, living in their home countries from which they made their way, first encouraged by the Otomans then by the British Empire, into Palestine to prevint any chance of the Jews gaining fut in their ancestral home land!

Logic dictates that the burden of proof ALWAYS remains on one who disputes the known. That burden of proof is NEVER shifted on advocates of the known to prove the validity of the known. All of the Judaic literature before Paul is unanimous that Torah, including the Oral Law (documented and proven by 4Q MMT) was the Authority for all religious Jews. Thus, any claim for the NT displacing Torah must be proven – ***from Torah.*** The burden of proof can NEVER be shifted to require disproving the NT, which contradicts Torah and has never been validated as legitimate. Until some Christian is able to demonstrate the validity of the NT ***from Torah,*** the logical known remains valid: the NT remains rejected and making assertions from that invalid book, as if the invalid assertions are fact, is deceptive. The declaration that Christians cite, that the Hellenist Romans' I*eisous (Ie-Z*eus; living Z*eus) claimed to be the only way to g*od, has no origins in Torah. It is straight out of Hellenist Roman idolatry and their belief in Z*eus (aka J*upiter) that traces back to the Egyptian I*sis – alarmingly similar to Iesous – and H*orus. Having seen that Christianity is indefensibly wrong, some Christians have taken to defining their own beliefs as "real Christianity," declaring Roman Christianity false. I have documented the facts presented here from historical sources recognized in the major universities of the world. Personal delusion – bald assertion lacking any historical documentation, by contrast, does not rewrite history. Even a casual study of the Protestant branch of Christianity demonstrates that its historic trunk and roots are undeniably Roman Christianity. Christians who reject historical Christian doctrines should stop deluding themselves that they can redefine themselves as "real" Christians. The Church defined real Christians, a definition that was fixed by the 4th century. Belief in that 4th century Christian Church doctrine is what defines the "real" Christian. If you don't believe those doctrines then, instead of proclaiming yourself as some new Christian counterfeit paqid (pope), defining a new "Christianity" (which is delusional), deal with the fact that you reject Christianity and start dealing with the real world: Christianity is Roman idolatry and it was the Roman Hellenists who cooperated with their pseudo-Tzedoqim ("Wicked Priests" Temple Sadducees) in killing Ribi Yehoshua. Torah prohibits the NT (Devarim 13.1-6, inter alia). If Christians would crack Parkes' world-renowned history book they would learn that there is an absolute disconnect and intractable contradiction between the first century Torah-teaching Pharisee Ribi and the 4th century counterfeit Roman version based on Roman, Greek Hellenist and even Egyptian gods. That disconnect is Paul, who – the earliest extant Church historian, Eusebius, recorded – was excised as an apostate by the original (Netzarim) followers of Ribi Yehoshua (Eusebius, Eccl. Hist. III.xxvii.4)). Thus, the attempt to reason logically from Torah to, le-havdil, the NT not only fails but DISPROVES the NT. The Christian claim that the NT supersedes Tanakh demonstrates and absolutely PROVES that Christianity is a displacement theology and the pope is a counterfeit of an Israeli Orthodox Jewish Paqid. Today, many Christians figure the best way to promote themselves is to discredit the only one who is actually in the Orthodox Jewish community keeping Torah according to Halakhah. Little has changed. It's merely another cycle of the same old Displacement Theology and resulting misojudaism that has always been intrinsic to Christianity's attempts to displace Torah, Judaism, Jews and Israel. Paqid Yirmeyahu Israeli Orthodox Jew Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il

Look I seen and heard enough, this Vatican and Their cardinal are such a pain and suffering to the Jewish Nation. Right of RETURN, tell them to take their catholic church back to Rome.- Now They Must Take Their Right of Return to ROME !

They are so irrelevant. They have a history of Evil, just look what they do to little boys.

a number of mistakes, which the worst being the writing of - fut - instead of foot... How could I? Sorry.

Exactly NO ONE!!!!!!

Thanks to Palestinian, #18 and #19, the Arab goal is clearly stated, the destruction of Israel as a Jewish state. Until this changes in the Arab world, there can be no peace. The Saudi representative at Annapolis said the same thing as the cardinal. No country intervened to stop the Holocaust or to stop the Arab attack when Israel was proclaimed. Jews must defend themselves. The hypocritical religious parties like Shas who support Olmert's folly are more of a threat to Israel than some cardinal.

Not only was the Pope a member of the Hitlerjugend, he is the incumbent head of the Inquisition, known today as the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Really, the Vatican, has no place or authority to interfere in other people's business. Again, I mean. Gone are the days when Catholic clergy ruled the world and burned people at the stake. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congregation_for_the_Doctrine_of_the_Faith