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Catholic leader rejects Israel's Jewish identity
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Published: 19.12.07, 17:35
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61. the vatican belonges to witch religion?
(12.19.07)
62. here comes the Catholic Mufti of Jerusalem
The Doc ,   Haifa, Israel   (12.19.07)
Another Islamo-Fascist spills his venom. Let's see if the Vatican will do anything around this new Anti-Semitic event created by one of its representatives in Holy Land. May the Moon God Allah have mercy on this new convert.
63. What about Catholic Ireland?
Meir ,   Beit Shemesh   (12.19.07)
The constitution of the Republic of Ireland says, that whilst it respects other religions, it recognises the "special" position of the Catholic Church. And in fact in almost every issue in Ireland, they look behind to see what the Pope says on such and such. Ireland is a Catholic country, and Israel is a Jewish one.
64. The Good Patriarch
David Most ,   United States   (12.19.07)
Sad to hear this man's twisted logic while he totally ignores the plight of the Christians in Bethlehem. They are leaving in droves as a result ot the efforts of his Palestinian brethren who would like an "other-free" Bethlehem. His Holiness the Patriarch, chooses to shut his eyes to the reality of the Muslim countries in the Middle East. There is no such thing as "freedom of religion" in those states. Or would he prefer to see the Saudi Arabian model of religious pluralism? Shameful that a man with his position should be so ignorant of his reality.
65. The Catholic church wants to share?
JPS ,   Efrat   (12.19.07)
Funny, they never wanted to share anything with other religions before. Gee... I guess that means Sabbah must be in favour of Vatican City becoming multi-cultural. Right?
66. catholic leader rejects Israel identity
steve downey ,   abilene,tx. u.s.a.   (12.19.07)
Mercy just when I thought I had heard it all concerning what Israel should be from another human being this comes down the path. I don't know whether to laugh or cry? If this catholic clergyman ( no matter what race he is from ) truly knew G_D'S word he would be very careful with his statements concerning WHAT ISRAEL SHOULD BE!! The land covenant ( which is everlasting) between Abram and G_D strecthed from Egypts border to the euphrates river. Look at what man and nations have done to this covenant. This land was not deemed a jewish state by man but by G_D HIMSELF. This fact is everlasting! As a supporter of Israel I would ask the dear clergyman to revisit the holy scriptures and it will become crystal clear that we should follow G_D'S LAW when comments are formed concerning the apple of HIS eye...THE JEWISH PEOPLE!!!!
67. What boundry for this land?
Raphie ,   West orange, NJ   (12.19.07)
Is this "Great Leader" talking about the land God gave us before '67 before '48 or in 1917 or when King David ruled Israel. At the rate Christians are leaving this area soon there will be a Holy Land for only two nations. Dear sir worry more about kepping the Vatican and Europe Christian and leave Israel to God's intended inheritors.
68. Boot his butt out of the Holy Land
Scott ,   Haifa   (12.19.07)
Tell him to read the bible he says he believes in....Romans chapter 11. We'll show you religious diversity.
69. I Cannot Believe These Comments
Joe B ,   U.S.   (12.20.07)
They are totally inane and irrelevant. The Patriarch id not saying it cannot be a jewish state but is denying its EXCLUSIVITY!. Some have mentioned other countries as being CHRISTIAN or CATHOLIC. But in these countries you will not find different license plates, different I.D. cards, CHECKPOINTS, and especially WALLS, to seperate different people of the same nation and this is what israel has become, he is right. Sometimes the medicine is bitter to swallow but it still cures.
70. Does he oject to a "Catholic" Vatican?
Jacob ,   Montreal, Canada   (12.20.07)
71. Its safer to criticize Israel
Zooog   (12.20.07)
Christians are scared to death of the islamic crazys in the middle east. It costs them nothing to criticize Israel. To do otherwise might cost them their lives. Father forgive them for they know not what they say.
72. HE IS NOT A CHRISTIAN
jack bauer   (12.20.07)
And surely he DOES NOT speak for me and all the other bible believing christians. This is an evil lie perpetrated by anti-semites. All it takes is a quick search in the bible to see that Israel is the land for the jews.....and although I believe that there should be an allowance for some churches (bible believing ones) to remain and their clergy allowed to remain, as long as they are loyal to Israel. I say kick his *** out of the holy land the catholics have been in cahoots with the moslems trying to undermine judaism for years he can go preach in an exclusive arabic state
73. Vatican duplicity
James D ,   USA & Israel   (12.19.07)
Typical of the Vatican to point their bony, condemning finger at anyone but themselves. How can anyone believe, much less listen to, any Vatican offical--Palestinian or otherwise--who makes comments like ''If there's a state of one religion, other religions are naturally discriminated against,''? Does the 'patriarch' not know his own history? The Vatican was birthed and nurtured on this very principle that it now publically condemns. Even the most secular historian admits the grave attrocities of the infamous Inquisition. This monstrous beast strangled billions from the peasants of Europe, confiscated the lands of Jews and Christians (those who believed in Christ--apart from Rome's machinations), and supplanted all other beliefs with its own bizarre blend of Christianity & paganism. In short, the Vatican cannot be trusted because it has blood on its hands from its very infancy--and it hasn't, nor will it ever, change.
74. Hypocrite is right!
Christian America ,   USA   (12.20.07)
"Israel has long pointed out that other countries call themselves Islamic republics and are not criticized." Unless it is a "Christian Country". And well we all no good and well that is not allowed! I am sick of this crap! I wish all the Jewish people the best of luck in the world and hope they all will move back to Isreal it would be wonderful for all.
75. What sympathy should a Jew expect from an Arab-Catholic?
Jack ,   San Diego, USA   (12.20.07)
76. #69
kutuzov ,   new york   (12.20.07)
you don't have checkpoints and walls in other countries? If buses and restaurants were to blow up in the US or rockets were to rain on a major European city, then you may start to see the value of checkpoints or barriers to protect innocent people. But then I forgot...jews are expendable in your views. And before you go defending animals that do this...let me just say that there are very few religions and religious leaders that condone terrorism. No matter how you slice it and no matter what spin you may put on arab barbarism, even in the jews' darkest hour we behaved like human beings. Jews never targeted buses, pizza parlors to be bombed. We have never resorted to hijacking planes and slamming them into buildings. This preacher's medicine is not bitter...its just poisonous.... he can shove it where the sun don't shine. Putting on a robe and carrying a cross doesn't make him wise or holy.
77. Wrong #69
Korem ,   New York, USA   (12.20.07)
Those policies are used to differentiate between Palestinians of the territories and Israelis. Israeli Arabs/Muslims/Christians/non-Jews of all types don't go through checkpoints, get blocked by walls, or have different licenses and ID cards. What the Patriarch is saying is that Israel should not be a Jewish state. Period. He is thus acting as an enemy of Israel's identity and statehood.
78. land
zichron   (12.20.07)
because the nations of christianity refused refuge to the original followersof the ten commandments they failed the terrible test and the reversion to the ancient covenent with the new knowledge is an obligation .
79. Patriarchs observations and talkbacks.
Ramachandran Nair ,   India   (12.20.07)
Read the news item and all the talkbacks. Patriarch's coments was genuine and realistic. As expected almost all the reactions were hostile.The observations comparing Holy Land with Vatican, Saudi, Ireland are, simply put ,ridiculous.
80. Have you read?
Tim ,   Tampa Florida   (12.20.07)
Have you read "The Art of Obfuscutory Obfuscation". It was printed in Haartz in 1991. Israel is an Apartheid. However, if the Jews can have a nuclear-armed Apathheid, I have no problem with that, but Christians should too.
81. Joe B #69
Betty ,   USA   (12.20.07)
You have got to be kidding! You do not find checkpoints, etc in these other countries because the people of one religion or ethnic background are not trying to commit terrorist acts on the other citizens of the nation. These different forms of identification are not meant to separate the different people who reside in the same nation, but are obviously meant merely as security and safety measures to protect against terrorist attacks. I guarantee that these same measures would be done here if one group of citizens preached hatred and encouraged attacks on the other group.
82. What?????
Ephraim ,   Diaspora   (12.20.07)
HaEretz and its fulness belongs to Adonai! Not to a man with a fishhead hat that honors dagon the fish god! Nor does it belong to the Heredi or to the Protestants! Not the Greek Orthodox nor the Islamist terrorist. Eretz Israel was given to the sons of Jacob for an eternal posession. He has placed His Name in Yerushalayim on the Holy Mount and all those who join themselves to Him by faith in Yeshua HaMoshiach and keep His Torah will inherit the land. Get over it!
83. Papacy, Papists and their track record
Brod ,   USA   (12.20.07)
Their Church fathers invented Antisemitism. They tampered with GOD's Ten Commandments and played god on Planet Earth. For 1260 years during the Dark Ages, they ravaged and persecuted Jews and Judeo-Christians in Europe. They ravaged 6 million Jews in the Holocaust. As far back as 2500 years ago, GOD foretold this coming phenomenon to Prophet Daniel and identitied this entity as the "Little Horn." GOD also revealed this mystery to Apostle Paul who identified it as "the Man of Sin" and "Son of Perdition." In the Book of Revelation, GOD revealed to Apostle John that this entity is also known as the "Whore," "Babylon," and "the Wounded Beast." And Apostle John calls it the Antichrist. From 14th to 19th centuries, great Protestant Reformers and Founders such as Wycliffe, Tyndale, Luther, Calvin, Cranmer, Mather, Knox, Roger Williams, John Wesley, Sir Isaac Newton, Whitfield, Jonathan Edwards, Spurgeon, Bishop J.C. Ryle , Dr. Martin Lloyd-Jones and others all saw the office of the Papacy as the Antichrist. With this track record, it is not surprising to see Papists barking the tune of their fellow dark forces-Islamist-Jihadists. It is irrelevant what these dark forces say. Israel can reject and say NO to their crap.
84. A jewish state.
Bob Haney ,   Oakland, U.S.A.   (12.20.07)
Sabbah., the latin patriach of Jerusalem must be made to understand that palestinians can never be allowed to stand in the way of Nazionist progress. All Palestinians need their innermost souls to recognize this fact, and they will then be happier, and able to go on with their lives.
85. #69-Spinning the comments?
Reality Check ,   BaGolan   (12.20.07)
He did in fact state it is NOT a Jewish state, which by his terms would make Israel exclusive. In fact the JEWISH STATE OF ISRAEL is the fairiest in the middle East since the advent of other montheistic religions! The Catholic and Muslim hierarchy used to make it an immediate death sentence fr Jews to even approach the Kotel. Do not take offence at the postings simply because they expose the truth! This "Patriarch" has routinely spouted his anti-Semitic venom in the name of the Church for 2 decades. At times, he has made Haniyeh blush with his hatred. He is enough to make Pope Pius XII proud!
86.  It is great to have & know the Word of God.! !
Roy c. Hudson ,   Pittcburg USA   (12.20.07)
It is good to know the history of the Enemy of God & his Elect: Isreael. There can be no story without a good ending. God has a good ending for all that stand with his People & his Nation, we can see the enemy of the truth & the Right. all Nations know Israel has the Right to the Land ! ! God will save his Nation. it's in the Book. RcH USA
87. Nothing new from Catholic leaders
Tomas   (12.20.07)
This man just continue the Roman Chatolic hate. He should be expail from Israel. He just follow his religion tradition. Like sending 70,000 Slovakian Jews to concentration camps. The Roman Chatolic goverment of that state at that time olso just follow there tradition
88. to the patriarch: Ransom Captive Israel
Bruce ,   Kentucky, USA   (12.20.07)
One of the most beautiful and conflicted hymns of Advent calls: "O Come O Come Immanuel, and ransom Captive Israel." I cry as I sing it: tears for the plight of Jews in their promised land, in joy despite knowing that too few Catholics share in understanding the nature of Islam.
89. Sabbah
Jerry ,   Phila.   (12.20.07)
This guy has the right, Israel should get rid of the idea of a Jewish state, right after the Vatican does.
90. Catholic Leaders
DAN ,   USA   (12.20.07)
There is no surprise that a catholic leader would come out against Isarel. The most vitriolic anti semites in history have been faithful Catholics and their priests, bishops, cardinals and popes.
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