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Former chief Rabbi to Bush: Don't act against God’s will
Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 10.01.08, 08:54
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181. Josh , what's with the bet ? you coward
charles ,   petach tikva   (01.17.08)
You are a coward , writing anonymouis tb's , or unther fake names . Now , come on , 100 % goy that you are , can't you accept my bet ? Now , or you accept , or you shut up ! The biggest looser , that's you , i can look at a mirror and say , that's a honest true Jew that i see .
182. 177 Charles
Ephraim ,   Diaspora   (01.17.08)
Once again, the Lashon ha Ra against me. You call me a liar and a thief. Produce the proof of my theft and dishonesty. As for your bet. There is no purpose for me to take your bet. I do not claim to be Jewish as you do. I have never converted to Pharisaic Judaism and never will. I believe what Rav. Sh'aul taught. He is a Jew who is one inwardly. G-d is able to raise up children of Avraham from the rocks. So I am a spiritual Jew. A child of Avraham by faith. Your Orthodox Rabbi's opinion means nothing to me. My challange to you was to prove from your blood that you are a Child of Avraham. Can you do it? You have already proven that you are not a spiritual Jew by your denial of Torah and confession of being athiest. I will counter your bet Charles. Let's go to a Messianic Rabbi together and see what his judgment will be. To me his would be authentic. To you the Orthodox one would be authentic. So what's the point. Prove you are a Jew by blood or quit calling me goy. Not that I mind being goy, if in fact that is what I am. It doesn't matter in the eyes of the Almighty, blessed be He. As I have said, I would rather be a righeous goy than an athiest Jew.
183. Josh , accept my bet ,
charles ,   petach tikva   (01.17.08)
i will prove , in front of a True Rabbi that i'm 100 % Jewish . Can you ? You can't accept this , because you know that you are NOT A JEW , but a looser , a hatefull disgusting allegedly converted one .
184. #179 Josh
Ephraim ,   Diaspora   (01.18.08)
The things you say about Jesus Christ is lashon ha ra of the worst possible kind, but even in this Josh, He loves you and will forgive you. The danger you are in is great. You are correct in your assertion that the Torah is the whole law and not the Talmud. It is the Torah that declares Yeshua is HaMashiach. Somewhere down the line you have been hurt or decieved by Christians. I urge you to find a Messianic Rabbi who can explain these things to you so you will see the whole truth. Please stop speaking out against Yeshua. I know His Name is not Jesus, it is Yeshua, but we are speaking of the same person. Look at His ministry. He only loved others. He never did harm to anyone. Why do you want to be so mean spirited and hateful to one who only loves you? Go learn before it is too late.
185. # 179 Poor hating Josselipinsel ! (2nd)
Abel Shoni ,   France   (01.18.08)
You wrote : "so now that you, the fake french guy who knows nothing about his so called home town nor even recognizes the french independance day, is a teacher of the meaning of an "orthodox athiest "." Gosh ! It's high time that "specialized people" take care of you. People around me, my relatives, my physician, the Mayor of my town are all scandalized. You'd better stopping your ashamed libel, I might turn to the French Embassy and give them over your insane posts in order to have them checked before they be transmitted to Israel counterpart for further inquiry about you. Unfortunately, libel laws and proceedings may not apply to you because of your mental state. As regards my friend Charles, I had not to prove he doesn't believe in God, all here but you knew it, as they knew I was a French Catholic. Nothing has never been hidden about Charles' convictions and mine. And you pretend to believe in God ? Even Satan is disgusted at your show. He found his master and lost his job ! I have to translate Josh's brilliant idiom : ablefish = Abel Abpaqcharin = Abel, Paqid, Charles and Keren (?) (sorry Keren if it's not you). Please Ynet publish my right of reply to a serious libel.
186. Ephraim , 2nd try
charles ,   petach tikva   (01.19.08)
You did'nt ask permission to talk to me , but i'll show mercy , and forgive . I don't think that pieces of gossip [ for Jews , Lashon Hara ] apply to non Jews , certainly not to ugly missionaries in my eyes . Liar : You called me your brother , not true , you wrote 25th try , not true , i think that you wrote somewhere "i'm Israeli" , a lie . Thief : You stole a Jewish name , Hebrew vocabulary . Those do not belong to non jews [ Jews say goyim ] In another tb i wrote : at least you are honest by telling what you are , that's the ONLY positive point you have . this "honest" refers only to your telling , for once , the truth . But you , stupid missionary , you saw a contradiction .
187. Ephraim
charles ,   petach tikva   (01.19.08)
There is not such thing as a messianic rabbi . A Rabbi is only a Orthodox one . Be a messianic goy , of no value [ thiefs , they stole the Jewish Torah ] I'm rather a secular Atheist Jew , than a mediocre goyish sect follower .
188. Cher Ami
charles ,   petach tikva   (01.19.08)
Why do you take this garbage from a garbage bipede so seriously ? As i wrote once , he has seen your country , region and town only on maps and the web . He told the same stupidities about me . You certainly know that for a liar as he is , nobody tells the truth . No wonder that he was rejected by his Christian church , family and friends , who needs such a hatefull disgusting bipede ? He also fears , contrary to us , to give his town name . He was once attacked in a restaurant by people making a cross or something ressembling [ he told ], they certainly knew him very well ! All the best to you
189. #185 Ablefish, get real
Josh   (01.19.08)
You have been watching too many movies. Was the last one Godzilla? Will the French Secret Service be at my door with Matthew Brodrick looking for eggs under my sink because of a talkback? You state: "People around me, my relatives, my physician, the Mayor of my town are all scandalized. " It sounds like a padded cell to me with many standing around you. Scandalized none the less?! Your physician knows you? Wow what an achievement. Are these the ones giving you medication? I think you need more Abpaqcharin. You say your relatives know you? Boy you got me there. Proof positive that your a resident of the city you claim to be. Maybe you live in a neighborhood called loony tunes? You state "as they knew I was a French Catholic" Who are "THEY"? Are "THEY" the ones who conspire against you? You were a French Catholic? What are you now? Let me guess by your next comment. "Even Satan is disgusted at your show. " Have you been talking to him too. Is he in the room with you now? Maybe this is further proof you live in the French city you say. How does he look? What about the mayor? How tall is the mayor? Does he look like Napolean? Is he wearing a red suite or does the mayor in your town wear a regular suite? Is Napolean saying "Charles avez-vous entendu ce que Ablefish annexes? C'est un "scandel" pas? Ablefish est un poisson! Regarding the man who served as Mayor of Thoiry, when was the last time you saw him?. Since you and he are such good friends and a talkback is a scandal, you must have saw him recently. Did you call him to tell him about the talkback?
190. Like George Bush cares
Boch J   (01.19.08)
191. #184 & 186 Missionary
Josh   (01.19.08)
One says Jesus forgives me and the other says he forgives Ephriam (another psuedo post from Abpaqcharin). In case you didn't know Chrales. As a Jew one must ask for forgiveness before you give it to them. But since you are unfamiliar with so much that is Jewish, I am not suprised. How can you even ask yourself to forgive yourself? Fake posts. By the way are we to assume you are not a bipede? Seems you have a problem with two legged beings to the point you use it as a derrogatory term. Are you like the hedonists that think man should be like a dog on all fours? Ephraim, Jesus a bipede, said he wasn't the Messiah. He said many would be mislead, so is that what your trying to do to us Jews on these talkbacks? Something Jesus warned about but now your doing it despite his own words? This is, by the way why he was killed. Because people like you said he was the "king of the Jews and the Messiah" when he stated he is not. Ironic, people like you got him in trouble with the law and eventually he was killed for it. Jesus doesn't love me, he's dead. You say "It is the Torah that declares Yeshua is HaMashiach." Prove it with an in-context quote from the Torah. You cant and it is a lie. Not one prediction matches Jesus and he said it himself he is not the Messiah. Not only did Jesus not love his followers but he brought them and the Jews war. "think that I have not come to bring peace but rather the sword." History proves it. Will you deny history that war has not come in his name by fallen Jews who call themselves Christians. The "good men" of the church who install their way of life on the heathen. Jesus is the answer to the question, when will the curses fall. So as far as it being too late, speak to the graves of the millions and millions who died by the hand of those who gave root to the seeds Jesus, a Jew who rounded up the Jewish sinners and planted the seeds of all our current problems. Let this be straight to everyone in ear-shot, the Christians have not hurt me, but the sins of we, as a nation, have hurt me. It is the chose death that our fathers made that made the curses be relalized. it is the choices of each one of us everyday that keep them alive. It is the need created by our rebelion "Mary" that gave birth through the rules of Torah (emaculately concieved by the word) the punisher horse (Hasus) who shed the blood of the first begotten son (Israel) to pay for our sins. It is fallen Israel (now christians) that brought war through the vehicle of chosing death. If we turn repent, love Hashem, and chose life, our wars will end. It is Hashem's love I seek and not that of a dead man on a cross. So you and Charles, the one who will not deny Jesus, can put that in your hat and eat it.
192. Josh , you a liar does'nt believe anybody
(01.19.08)
You wrote anonymous tb's , unther invented names [ my Jewish name is not Yehoshua as you wrote ] And you think of course that evryone is acting in the same way . Poor rejected guy . When have you met your fasmily the last time ? how many years ago have they rejected you ? When will we go to an Orthodox Rabbi ? Do you still fear to tell us where you live ? Correct people are not attacked in a restasurant as you were , by people knowing very well what you are , a goy who pretends to be Jewish
193. Forgot to write my name
charles ,   petach tikva   (01.19.08)
in a precedent tb
194. #93 Uhhhhhh.......Duh
Josh   (01.20.08)
I know that your just angry because I have you pinned in a corner and have shown everyone that you will not deny Jesus. There isn't a Jew on the site who has ever thought you were a Jew. Give it up, they are not fooled by the likes of you. Many would wonder why I humiliate you and degrade myself to bother with you. They may think that I underestimate their ability to spot a Christian. I know every Jew who reads your posts immediately knows you are a Christian and not a Jew. And the more you post the clearer it is. So why do I bother? Because you represent the most vile of intentions. For this, every Christian who thinks your a Jew should know, you are not. Besides I am educating Christians on point about Jesus that the church will not give them. The fact that he himself denied he was the Messiah. This should send Christians back to Torah with many questions and hopefully they will do as Jesus stated and return to Torah and the father. Do you not feel humiliated every time I ask you to deny Jesus as a g-d and you know you can't? You want to look like a Jew, but this is so blatent a mark on that false "I'm an orthdox Jew" face you try to wear. It is like a cross hung around your neck when you put on a kippah. You fool no one Paqid. Abpaqcharin.
195. #193 So has heaven
(01.20.08)
196. My LAST post for Josselipinsel
Abel Shoni ,   France   (01.19.08)
" I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars--I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you." (Revelation 3:9)
197. Josh, wiser than the Sages of Israel !
Abel Shoni ,   France   (01.20.08)
"He who conceals his hatred has lying lips, and whoever spreads slander is a fool." ( Proverbs 10:18)
198. #197 Still curious.
Josh   (01.20.08)
You say you know the mayor of Thoiry and he cares about ynet talkbacks to the point he is scandalized. So answer my question, do you call him daily to tell him about the talkbacks? How does he know?
199. #196 and 197
Josh   (01.20.08)
Jesus said to Satan. "Get yee behind me you shall be the foundation of my church". Satan was on earth at the time of Jesus, so he was not speaking with someone else metaphorically. Looking at the history of the treatment of little boys and the involvement in bringing the curses of war and society, it is clear. I do not hide from addressing what I hate. It would be slanderous if it were not true that you do not live in Thiory as you posted before. Just as Charles does not live in Petach Tikvah.
200. Josh (LAST)
Abel Shoni ,   France   (01.20.08)
Why should I call my Mayor ? She has eyes for reading and tremendous ability to speaking and writing English. The rest is nothing of your business ! BTW : we are waiting for your response to Charles' bet, but your lying and cowardice are such you will not. I wrote this post because i am polite, but this is definitely the last one.
201. Cher Ami
charles ,   petach tikva   (01.20.08)
Let me say that i admire your faculty to stay so polite with this guy . It's sure that you are not living in Thoiry , and i in Petach tikva , for this garbage called josh . I proposed him to come to my town , but my tb was not published , in the same time we could go to an Orthodox Rabbi . I'm sure , you also , that this coward will not accept . Cela m'etonne que mon courrier ne vous soit pas encore parvenu , cela arrive . I casn't underrstand that my letter has'nt reached you yet . All the best to you , but don't get nerveous with this guy , he is'nt worth it .
202. Josh , when do you come to my town ?
charles ,   petach tikva   (01.20.08)
and we can go to ask a TRUE Orthodox Rabbi , who of us is Jewish . Bring the conversion certificate you bought , so he can see what a fake guy you are . And don't write anonymous tb's nor unther another name , Yehoshua is not my Jewish name , so don't use this when writing in my name
203. Dear Charles
Abel Shoni ,   France   (01.21.08)
I don't understand either for the letter. Can you tell me when you posted it. Perhaps it comes tomorrow morning, that is Monday morning. If not, I ask the postwoman about it and give you this time the not slightly altered last name. I hope Ynet will understand we have not many other means due to this incredible Josh. Dear Charles, j'espère que tout va bien pour vous et votre famille (I hope everything is all right for you and your family), et je vous souhaite à tous une excellente semaine dans votre beau pays (wishing you all a very nice week in your beautiful country). All the best. Please Ynet publish this one, with my gratitude for your help, thanks a lot.
204. Dear Charles
Abel Shoni ,   France   (01.22.08)
I have just created a contact email : [email protected] I hope it works. Not received your letter, but the postwoman is keeping a close watch on it. All the best to you and your family. Thank you a lot Ynet for publishing this one.
205. Fundamentalist rabbi
jes ,   makawao usa   (04.24.08)
is no different or any less deluded than fundamentalists imams. Faery tales are not real and there are fundamentalist jews who are just as dangeorus as fundamentalist muslims.... sigh
206. The land belongs to the sons of Israel
Brian ,   United States   (10.24.08)
The land belongs to the sons of Israel. Our country should not force or aid in the division of Jerusalem. This is the land that God promised Abraham as an inheritance forever. The House of Judah is now in the land and very soon so will The House of Joseph.
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