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Italian 'peace bride' raped, murdered in Turkey
Associated Press
Published: 12.04.08, 18:43
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61. To Omar #31. Educated To ASK.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (04.14.08)
SO, those Islamic men have to be educated to keep their hands in their pockets. They should be educated to ASK for things they want -- they cannot grab whatever passes-by on the road. They should be told that they are NOT living in the Fifteenth Century anymore. They should be able to reign-in their sex-impulse -- such a person is called a human male. IF a man cannot control his genitals -- that means he is an animal, a two-legged animal. AND finally, they should be taught to turn-away their head if they see a woman (even a naked woman) passing-by on the road.
62. #No 52.... please read what I have to say to you!
Lil ,   Jerusalem-->Tel Aviv   (04.14.08)
Before writing I must say I actually did look at your site and work... You have some interesting stuff there... Jaffa, Adam&Eve, The troll king, the horses, 72 virgins is brilliant! But I cannot accept the use of the Swastika in art. This symbol has an awful meaning since WWII - It took me a few minutes to be able to start read what you have to say. and I must say - you used the right symbol. I moved out from Jerusalem recently - I couldn't stay in my home any longer...
63. 58: In Muslim lands, rape is frequent but not reported as
Rivkah   (04.14.08)
often, so the place on the statistical map is skewed. In Saudi Arabia, a woman who reports being raped is charged with a crime and may be killed for dishonoring her husband or family by being attacked. So a lot of rapes in religious countries are not reported.
64. Italian newscast TG1 siad
Andras Bereny ,   Kfar Tapuah, Ephraim   (04.14.08)
Main Italian TV newscast TG1 siad she was heading toward peace in "palestine", not Israel.
65. apology to peace heart beats...
engin ,   eskisehir-turkey   (04.14.08)
for islam, it's one of the biggest sin. it's not acceptable for any divine religion. who can say "this is a religionist person" for the murder? punishment is clear: executing. but it's not possible anymore, since we start conversations for eu. we exteremely feel shame, as the people, who are living in the same grounds with Mevlana...
66. And sometimes rape becomes murder
jjstar ,   Israel, South   (04.14.08)
And sometimes the rape survivor survives. And sometimes the survivor wonders why she/he was spared. And sometimes it becomes apparent. And sometimes it remains an enigma. And another victim is added to the pyre of attrition, addiction and evil. When Israel understands that it all ripples out from here to the world - we may become a little more gentler. With ourselves, our children and with each other. Ve-ahavta.
67. I'm so sorry..
ismet ,   Balikesir / Turkey   (04.14.08)
I'm Turk and muslim, I apologize to peace bride's family. N'one forget that this journey is very dangerous and bunk. This events can be everywhere at the world. Turkeys population is 70 million and murder is only one..
68. Tragedy
Johnny Gitto ,   St. Louis, USA   (04.14.08)
This is what happens when the world of liberalism runs up against the world of reality. Shame on the people who encouraged this poor woman on this idiotic and wrong mission.
69. #64, Bereny, the hypocrite
Jake   (04.14.08)
So, after all, you have been deceiving us with fabrications. You are in Italy, watching Italian TV, not living a simple religious life in the Samarian hills. You are reading all day the secular media, not the religious media. And then you refer to Israel as a "so-called Jewish state"?! Ha ha ha!
70. Another thing, Mr. Bereny #64
Jake   (04.14.08)
I have a collection of Italian Renaissance maps, from the days of explorers, like Colombus, Vespucci, and others. All the world maps of the day show Eretz Israel demarcated as Judea, Iudaea in Latin. Not Syria-Palaestina, but Iudaea. That was hundreds of years before Herzl decided on "Palestine" as a "possible location for the Jewish state". Don't go and blame the Italians, who centuries ago commerated the Jewish homeland in maps, when it is we the Jews, both religious and secular, right and left, who shoot ourselves in the foot with self-defeating actions.
71. #No 58 Rivkah – “In Muslim lands, rape is frequent but not
Kursun ,   Izmir, Turkey   (04.14.08)
Rihkah, do you know that Turkey is not an Islamic country, but a secular state. Turkish women have the rights to vote and be elected since 1930-1934. That is 10 years before French women got the same rights (1944), and at least 37 years before Swiss women (1971-Appenzell: 1990). I wonder if any of the people who have expressed negative comments on Turkey here have had shown any sensitivity on many fire attacks in Germany on Turkish inhabited apartments during the last few years. Dozens of Turks have been burned alive in Germany lately. http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,533713,00.html Still, such events have never been a source of Christian or German antagonism here in Turkey. Mad people are everywhere on the world. I just hope people who share thoughts and feelings here on this page are free of such low level prejudice. Prejudice is what puts you on the same level of rapist-killers or fire starter-killers.
72. To Turks
Turk ,   Turkiye   (04.14.08)
You don't have to make an explanition to Jews. They are just vomiting hatred as well as they hate humanity including themselves. We have already discussed that event with Italians and they understand us.
73. people doing genocide in the middle east CAN NOT blame islam
jasmina ,   USA   (04.15.08)
you are, RACIST FREAKS, as dangerous as that psycho killing our lovely bride of piece, Pippa! You can not make up a story saying that MUSLIM did that!!! There are millions of freaking people who are not muslim but raping innocence women,killing innocence people including kids, elder ones..And here, some racists whose country is doing genocide for years..you are not the people who can talk about Barbary!!!
74. We are very sorry & Apology to peace
imat elcigil ,   izmir-Turkey   (04.15.08)
This is so sad,hurtful,shameful event.Please be sure that we all Turkish people feel this pain deeply in our heart very much. A cutthroat person who did this can not be a human,should get the worst serious punishment.This sad event never acceptable for Islam and any divine religion.To kill someone,to hurt someone is one of the biggest sin for Islam.I give my condolences to brother country Italy and a world
75. This could've happen anywhere. Turkish people in general are
Hanoch ,   USA   (04.15.08)
good, hospitable people. Let's not forget that Turkey accepted many Jews exiled from medieval Spain.
76. a disgusting and predictable outcome
Ferdinand ,   Germany   (04.15.08)
what a beautiful woman. A pity she did not have a good man that held her back.
77. Rape in the world
Allan ,   Ventura, USA   (04.16.08)
Rape is a crime of power and many are fueled by acohol abuse.
78. stupid?
Muslim Brother ,   UK   (04.17.08)
people who don't hate are stupid? hatred is both very very easy and very fashionable right now. it's much harder to be tolerant...hatred is the easy dumb path. it is and u know it
79. this 4 US & EU people who do everything perfect
Ali ,   Bayindir   (04.17.08)
What happens when a woman in a wedding gown hitchhikes in Bronx or Harlem, NY at 2am? In every city, there are good places to be and there are bad and dangerous places to be. Her mistake was being at the wrong place at the wrong time. This has nothong to do with religion or the country itself. oh and for the Americans: get your shiat straight first, stop the shooting at schools or explain the conspiracy theories. numb nuts! My prayers are with Pippa's family.
80. when will u awake baby?
shimon ,   turkey   (04.17.08)
this is the truth of Islam, no other reality, when will u know that baby?
81. Bridal Murder in Turkey
Erin Walsh ,   Saint Louis City, Mi   (04.18.08)
This is a HORRIFIC AND TOTALLY UNFORGIVABLE CRIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please don't label the country of Turkey, for the acts of just 1 individual. There are many crimes committed around me and where I live in USA that are just as bad or worse.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Condemn the person, not the country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is the PERSON responsible!!!!!!!!!!!!! When I was 13, a man taped his wife to a chair in the garage, and set it on fire, claiming it was a sex game gone wrong. He was blamed, not the county or city he grew up in, ALSO, there are many immigrants here that murder, rob, and do horriffic crimes to US citizens, but I don't blame anyone but the person who committed the crime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is the only one to blame!!!!!!!!!!
82. Re: #69, #70
Andras Bereny ,   Kfar Tapuah, Ephraim   (04.20.08)
Jake, have you heard of Internet webcast, sattelite television? Hm? These days you don't need to be at a certain place to do certain things. As far as the term "Palestine" is concerned, it was coined by the Romans 2000 years ago to mark the de-Judaization of Judea. It was picked up again in modern times by the British to name their Mandate and adopted by Nasser for Arafat in 1964, three years befor the '67 war. At that time the "West Bank" was illegally occupied by Jordan, Gaza by Egypt and the meaning of "Palestine" was what we call today "Israel Proper".
83. let's be reasonable here...
Shira ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (04.21.08)
The sad fact of the matter is that no matter where you are in the world, it is always dangerous for a woman to travel alone. (Or for anyone for that matter...accidents happen too). This had nothing to do with religion or ethnicity. Let's stop pointing fingers and just be sorry that a well meaning person was murdered.
84. PEACE BRIDE WAS DOING GODS WILL
HARLEY DOEFLER ,   COURPUS CHRISTI, TEX   (04.22.08)
FORGET HAVING PEACE TILL WE ARE WILLING TO PUNISH WRONGDOERS IN PUBLIC AND TO THE MAX. IS IT NOT STRANGE THAT RELIGION IS OFTEN THE CAUSE OF WAR. DON'T THE GODS TEACH PEACE?
85. generalizations reveal ignorance
Sean ,   Orlando, USA   (05.31.08)
Better to say nothing and be thought a fool then to open your mouth and prove it.
86. oh, what has islam got to do with it? simple..
observer ,   elsewhere   (11.14.15)
by first perpetrating theft, then rape and finally murder - M.K was simply following the exact footsteps of "Prophet" Mo. True, Mo did it on a grander scale, looting whole caravans, raping hundreds and then murdering thousands - but that's just a numerical thing.
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